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Topic: HIFI CABLES Posted: September 03 2005 at 06:33 |
Good cables are very important in a good system.
There are two family of cables: Interconnect and power.
1)Interconnect
Among Interconnect, there are modulation cables, used to link sources to the preamplifier or integrated amp. Then there are speakers cables to link speakers to amplifiers.
2)Power cables
The aim of good power cables is to preserve the power cable from various perturbations.
3)Brands and models.
If you're looking for budget cables, one brand: QED.
Their entry-level products are excellent. Neutral, equilibrated and musical.
If you have a bigger budget, turn on american brands: Synergetic research, Cardas, Transparent (the best for interconnect), Kimber, Nordost...
QED
CARDAS
NORDOST
Digital one:
TRANSPARENT CABLES
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 06:37 |
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 06:40 |
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 07:16 |
I don't doubt that cable quality is important, but I also believe its importance is overhyped. At least one retailer recommends that you allow 10% of your hi-fi budget for cables. To me this is a cynical marketing ploy, you either need good cables or you don't. I also question the difference in terms of perceptible performance between a cable costing say £20 and one costing £200.
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 07:19 |
tahnks about in info and the pictures!
good man
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 07:05 |
Easy Livin wrote:
I don't doubt that cable quality is important, but I also believe its importance is overhyped. At least one retailer recommends that you allow 10% of your hi-fi budget for cables. To me this is a cynical marketing ploy, you either need good cables or you don't. I also question the difference in terms of perceptible performance between a cable costing say £20 and one costing £200. |
As log as you've not heard a "big" cable, it's normal to have some doubts.
There are expensive cables which doesn't work, and cheap who does. That's why i made the selection you see up.
There are all good and bring a dramatic improvment on a good system.
10% of the budget is not enough in my opinion.
I have myself 700 doollars modulation cables and this is not because they look nice, but because they bring a huge improvment which is a simportant as the elements itself.
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 07:05 |
proger wrote:
tahnks about in info and the pictures!
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Thank you for you support
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 13:31 |
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 06:30 |
you're welcome
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 10:33 |
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 05:02 |
I'm looking for a new system (ampli NAD 352 + CD NAD 542 + Tablette ProAC 2000) in short time. A friend of mine reccomend VdH D-102 III or, better, Thunderline as modulation cables (I need less than 1 meter). Both are easy to find here in Rome but price is quite hot.
Are they a good choice?
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 06:07 |
Your Nad choice for electronics is great. I don't know Proac tablette, i suppose there are good, but i will check, asking to a friend.
You need standfloors for your speakers, are they provided with the speakers?
If not, turn on Atacama Nexus 7, there are cheap (120€ for the pair) and excellent and will fit perfectly with your little speakers. You have to screw it on your standfloors. It may seem barbarian to do, but it's essential in order the speakers doesn't vibrate.
Then, you must fill it with sand.
About cables, i don't know that precise model, but Van den hull is a good brand which does musical cables.
If you find it too expensive, you can turn on the QED cheapest model.
Does your speakers accept bi wiring? it's ESSENTIAL to bi wire.
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 06:12 |
God Oliverstoned what does your HI-FI equipment really cost?
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 06:39 |
maidenrulez wrote:
God Oliverstoned what does your HI-FI equipment really cost? |
"Only" 10000 € for the moment , but i have only CD and Tape, Vynil and tuner sources are missing me.
I expect to invest 4000€ or 5000 dollars for my turntable, as i want to put a moving coil and a pre-pre on it.
I admit it's a dangerous drug!
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:02 |
No, standfloors are not provided. I know the brand Atacama as very good and no expensive. Good news for the Tablette, they accept bi-wire. For QED cables, it seems to be not a popular brand here: maybe i'm wrong, i will make a better search.
Thanks a lot for your friendly advices.
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:13 |
It's a pleasure to help you!
I swear QED cables are unbeatable in low prices!
but Van den hull is a good brand. You can choose a cheaper model in their choice.
You MUST bi wire, so it's mean to buy either by wired designed cables with babana plugs mounted on it like the "Qed original biwire" pictured below, which is a good choice because their "Airloc" plug is good:
Or if too expensive, turn on meter cable (Van den hull or qed) and buy enough to bi cable. You'll simply solder the extrtemities with WBT silver solder, if possible.
I think it's very important to biwire in your case, as i think that the Tablette has a low efficiency.
This will had dynamic, quickness and image.
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:25 |
You are right, 87 db.
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:40 |
the dragon wrote:
You are right, 87 db.
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Not easy to fed...
how much watts does the Nad amp do?
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:52 |
Are you sure about the speakers choice ?
I would see well of pair of cheap (but very musical) Mission with a bigger boomer (16.5 cm for the M32i model pictured below ) and a higher efficiency (90db). Bigger boomer equals more low, which means more matter, thickness, image…
Your Nad would drive it like a flower.
Mission M32i (you can get it around 300€ for the pair!!)
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 07:53 |
80. But if NAD is the great brand that we know, they are real. I can also consider the big brother 372, the effort is not inhuman, but the room is not so big (6x4) and his 150 watt could be... dangerous.
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