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    Posted: September 02 2005 at 00:28

Now don't kill me, I love Yes and I think their music is just as whimsical as it is brillient however I cant help feeling they have done just too many epics. I think they have diminished the importance of their epics by making so many of them. When I think of other great prog bands their epics are always the ones that stick out as brillient (Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP etc).

Yes has done so many that they just dont jump out as major highlights of their career which i think truly shows that they have made some bad ones which is the total opposite of what an epic should be(tales esp).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 00:32
Originally posted by fender101 fender101 wrote:

Now don't kill me, I love Yes and I think their music is just as whimsical as it is brillient however I cant help feeling they have done just too many epics. I think they have diminished the importance of their epics by making so many of them. When I think of other great prog bands their epics are always the ones that stick out as brillient (Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP etc).

Yes has done so many that they just dont jump out as major highlights of their career which i think truly shows that they have made some bad ones which is the total opposite of what an epic should be(tales esp).

Tales isn't supposed to be taken as an epic, it's a concept album, and a fine one at that in my opinion.

I honestly don't think they've ever put out a "bad" epic, but hell, i'm a huge Yes fan, so i'm biased

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 00:34
Depends what you consider an epic. Personally, when I think of Yes' epics, the only three I really consider are Close to the Edge, The Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If you count TFTO then I guess it gets somewhat excessive, but I prefer to think of the songs from that album as a whole piece of work rather than four seperate "epics". Regardless, the three I previously mentioned are among my favourite songs of all time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 03:22
Originally posted by Ty1020 Ty1020 wrote:

Depends what you consider an epic. Personally, when I
think of Yes'
epics, the only three I really consider are Close to the Edge, The
Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If you count TFTO then I guess it gets
somewhat excessive, but I prefer to think of the songs from that album
as a whole piece of work rather than four seperate "epics". Regardless,
the three I previously mentioned are among my favourite songs of all
time.


I agree completely. However, I would also add the following to the list of
Yes epics:

-- Mind Drive

-- That That Is
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 03:49

Seems a bit like saying Beethoven wrote too many symphonies to me!Confused

(One underrated Yes epic is "Endless dream" from "Talk")

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 04:16
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Seems a bit like saying Beethoven wrote too many symphonies to me!Confused

(One underrated Yes epic is "Endless dream" from "Talk")

'Endless Dream' is excellent, I agree. I think it's just anti Rabin feeling that closes many peoples minds to this track.

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 06:37

Originally posted by Cinema Cinema wrote:

Originally posted by Ty1020 Ty1020 wrote:

Depends what you consider an epic. Personally, when I
think of Yes'
epics, the only three I really consider are Close to the Edge, The
Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If you count TFTO then I guess it gets
somewhat excessive, but I prefer to think of the songs from that album
as a whole piece of work rather than four seperate "epics". Regardless,
the three I previously mentioned are among my favourite songs of all
time.


I agree completely. However, I would also add the following to the list of
Yes epics:

-- Mind Drive

-- That That Is

That's interesting you say that Cinema; I was thinking just the same thing before I got to your post....on the Keys album, they, along with 'Be The One' are the stand out tracks...the shorter ones really are substandard, and its the same with 'Homeworld' on The Ladder...maybe they are just more at home with the epics...so I'm not complaining!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 06:52
There are never too many Yes epics! And on the other hand, nothing can outshadow the brilliance of Close to the Edge.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:01
^ Gates Of Delirium can!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:04
Sorry but you're wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:06
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:22

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.

I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:30
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.

I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...

 

thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:34

@ Logos.........I'm right!!!!!!

@Luke........I hardly agree with anything you ever say, so I might as well take no notice

@Fandango....Hello!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:35
Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.

I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...

 

thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.

Man you are so up your own ass!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:37
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.

I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...

 

thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.

Man you are so up your own ass!

 

so you expected i would come and start kissing up? if i don't like something i say it. simple as that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:39
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Man you are so up your own ass!


Yes he is! Better than anyone else ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 10:10
Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.

I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...

 

thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.

Man you are so up your own ass!

 

so you expected i would come and start kissing up? if i don't like something i say it. simple as that.

No you don't just say it, you slate it!  Calling Gates just sounds though????!!! Plain ridiculous!

You said

Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music...

It has all of these in abundance, I don't understand why you can't see it!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 10:16
Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Luke Luke wrote:

Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.

I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...

 

thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.



Gates is actually one of Yes' most easily understood epics, far more so than the spirtual claptrap of Tales.

Gates of Delerium is an anti-war song. The first part deals with the people preparing for war, their doubts and fears. The second part, that loud jazzy instrumental section, is the war itself. The music is violent and explosive, filled with screaming and metallic clashing - isn't it obvious that this is musical war? The final part, "Soon", is Anderson's personal uplifting appeal for this madness to end. Yes never recorded a more lucid and moving piece. Concept by the bucketload, mate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2005 at 10:16


I think they have covered that subgenre appropriately enough.  Afterall, when it comes to progressive rock, how much is really too much?
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