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Evan1211
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 23:02 |
I am very dissapointed at the lack of support for Mike Rutherford here! Just because he is not loud and crunchy and somewhat lower in the mix doesnt mean anything. His playing is theoretically (music theory wise that is) equal to or HARDER than Chris'. I play bass and find Rutherford's "Visions of Angels" equally as hard to play CORRECTLY as Chris' Heart of the Sunrise. People seem to hate the man's playing for some odd reason and its a trend I've noticed for some time now. Im sorry, but as a player, they are equally as challenging and creative on bass. Overall though, Yes is a TAD better than Genesis.
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 00:25 |
Parker wrote:
Peter brings much more emotin and meaning than Jon. Just think if Peter did " I get up I get down" |
It would suck. Sorry, but those two (although equally brilliant) aren't interchangeable. Peter should dare not trespass (no pun intended) on Yes territory, and vice versa.
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DarHobo
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:43 |
Well, I was reading another forum where a "fan" of Genesis was saying how much better they are then YES. He said something along the lines of "How can you even compare the musicians of Genesis to YES, I can name all of the musicians from Genesis off the top of my head. Do you think you can do that with YES, NO! All that comes to mind is Chris Squire." Now as I was reading this I was just laughing. And then he goes onto to say "Besides Genesis had way more hits than YES,(Then he names all of the lame 80's Genesis pop songs that were hits.) And said do you think YES can do that?
Oh yeah. YES>Genesis
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krauthead
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:13 |
Any "classic" album by Yes beat any "classic" album by Genesis IMO
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*Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond
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samhob
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:04 |
yeah.... i dont like genesis ... ( though i hear several times their albums) i really dont like it...
But I Love yes ...
these two bands only share the same music genre label for me
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GatesOfDelirium
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:09 |
I can't choose.
But I will say that Trespass slightly edges out The Yes Album for one reason and one reason only: The Knife.
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Zooka_Jesus
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:19 |
Members
Steve Hackett <<<< Steve Howe
Phil Collins > Alan White
Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish)
Mike Rutherford <<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<< Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel <<< Jon Anderson
Tony Banks <<<<<<<<<<< Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations < Yes
Tresspass > Time and a Word
Nursery Crime <<<<< The Yes Album
Foxtrot <<<<<<<<<<<< ;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ;<<<<<<<<<<<<, Fragile
Selling England By the Pound <<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<, Close To The Edge
Genesis Live <<<<<<<<<<< Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans
Trick of the tail <<<<<<<<<<<<&l t;< Relayer
Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one
And then there were three > Tormato
Duke >>>> Drama
Genesis >>>>>>>> 90125
Acabab < Big Generator
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Genesis <<<<<<<< Yes
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Evan1211
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:28 |
Evan1211 wrote:
I am very dissapointed at the lack of support for Mike Rutherford here! Just because he is not loud and crunchy and somewhat lower in the mix doesnt mean anything. His playing is theoretically (music theory wise that is) equal to or HARDER than Chris'. I play bass and find Rutherford's "Visions of Angels" equally as hard to play CORRECTLY as Chris' Heart of the Sunrise. People seem to hate the man's playing for some odd reason and its a trend I've noticed for some time now. Im sorry, but as a player, they are equally as challenging and creative on bass. Overall though, Yes is a TAD better than Genesis. |
Anyone care to give me an idea about this blatent Rutherfordian bashing amongst us?
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moncholo
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:56 |
genesis is way better in every single aspect for me... and i like Yes
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Posted: September 01 2005 at 06:19 |
definitely Genesis win... i like some Yes stuff but most from late 70s and early 80s. and Genesis recorded really good albums when Peter Gabriel was the singer. my fav is Lamb Lies Down On Broadway it's something that Yes never recorded.
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Gianthogweed
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Posted: September 01 2005 at 09:33 |
Rutherford is one of the best bassists ever. But Chris Squire had a much bigger impact on the music than Rutherford did. You could say he was the backbone of the band, and the bass was the basis for most of Yes's best songs. The rest of the band just road those bass lines.
When I think Genesis though, the first thing that comes to mind is the keyboards. Particularly the organ and mellotron. Banks was the driving force behind the band just as Squire was the driving force for Yes. Rutherford's melodic phrasing, however, is better than Squire's, but he was not the driving force. That's why Squire wins.
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BiGi
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Posted: September 01 2005 at 09:58 |
I am about to go upstream...
One thing I must say is that to me there are so many differences between these two great groups that I can't restrict it to a X beats Y or viceversa.
Any comparison is unfair...they developed their OUTSTANDING ideas in different ways!
That said, I'm gonna get bashed, since these are my preferences:
Zitro wrote:
Of course, the two bands for many are very similar in musical quality and style, so it is a good idea to compare which is best in specific areas :
Members
Steve Hackett (techinque: = but styles differ too much)(emotion: >>) Steve Howe
Phil Collins (T: >)(E: >) Alan White
Phil Collins (T: <<)(E: >>>) Bill Bruford
Mike Rutherford (T: <<)(E: <<) Chris Squire
Peter Gabriel (T: <)(E: >>> but once again styles differ too much) Jon Anderson
Tony Banks (T: <<)(E: >>> Wakeman tends to sound "plastic" too many times) Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to Revelation <<< Yes
Tresspass > Time and a Word
Nursery Crime >>> The Yes Album
Foxtrot = Fragile
Selling England By the Pound << Close To The Edge
Genesis Live <<< (BAAAAD recording) Yessongs
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > (though both heavy to digest) Tales of topographic oceans
Trick of the tail >>>>>> Relayer and everything else
Wind and Wuthering >>> Going for the one
And then there were three = Tormato
Duke << Drama
Genesis < 90125
Acabab > Big Generator
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Genesis >>> Yes
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Genesis are my second favourite band of all times (after The Beatles)...I DO like Yes a great deal, but they disappoint me more frequently than Genesis...
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