Genesis vs Yes
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Topic: Genesis vs Yes
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: Genesis vs Yes
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:52
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Of course, the two bands for many are very similar in musical quality and style, so it is a good idea to compare which is best in specific areas : Members Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe Phil Collins vs Alan White Edit : Phil Collins vs Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes Tresspass vs Time and a Word Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album Foxtrot vs Fragile Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge Genesis Live vs Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans Trick of the tail vs Relayer Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one And then there were three vs Tormato Duke vs Drama Genesis vs 90125 Acabab vs Big Generator ... Genesis vs Yes = if you can't decide > < greater, worse than >> << much better , worse than
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:54
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Why not put Collins up against Bruford?
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:55
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Members Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations < Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime << The Yes Album Foxtrot = Fragile Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick of the tail << Relayer Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one And then there were three = Tormato Duke << Drama Genesis < 90125 Acabab > Big Generator ... Genesis < Yes |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:56
| 'Yes' win on all fronts! |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:57
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I cannot choose. Bruford is the better drummer, but he has not been in Yes long enough. I consider Bruford the drummer of King Crimson instead. You can choose either bruford or white in the little game.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:59
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I consider White the quintessential Yes drummer, but I'd personally
consider Bruford as the defining drummer, the same way most people
would consider that wacky Wetton as the defining vocalist for Crimson
even though Belew's been there much longer. Either way, I haven't paid enough attention to Genesis' post-Lamb works to vote fairly, so I'll abstain from voting to keep it even.  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 23:01
you can vote on the only albums you know, it doesn't have to be all (I doubt most people here own an album like Big Generator  )
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 23:16
| Like asking me to pick between a huge bowl of chocolate ice cream and a huge steak...no clue |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 23:18
Why dont we secide who the bigger sell out is.......thats not as hard of a question
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 23:25
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Well, Genesis, but Yes was s huge and disappointing sell-out too.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 23:39
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i'm sure this has been done before, but i'm to lazy to look for it. anyway: Genesis = Yes very controversial, i know. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Parker
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:02
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Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins < Bill Bruford Peter Gabriel >>>>>>>>> Jon Anderson ( was that to exaggerated?) Peter brings much more emotin and meaning than Jon. Just think if Peter did " I get up I get down" Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman Yes has a great lineup ... if only they would bump out Jon... you can only stand to listen to him for a little bit.
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:08
I don't think it would sound very good at all as Gabriel just dosn't have the range also he can't sustain a note without his voice warbling! Gabriel visually but not the better singer IMHO! |
Parker wrote:Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:29
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The two are the best bands ever and I have always seen enormous parallels Yes > From Genesis to revelation Time and a word = Trespass The yes album = Nursery Cryme Fragile > Foxtrot Selling England > Close to the Edge The Lamb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Tales Relayer > A trick of the Tail Going for the One > Wind and wuthering Tormato > ATTWT Duke > Drama 90125 > Genesis Abacab > Big generator Peter Gabriel = John Anderson ( Now if John had Peter's emotion and John Peter's voice) Phil Collins > Any yes drummer ( I think he has more musical input abilities than he is given credit for Chris Squire > Mike Rutherford Steve Hackett = Steve Howe ( If Hackett had Howe's skill and Howe had Hackett's touch) Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman ( Rick has more skill and more instruments but Tony's compositional skill is better )
And for a lifetime career study Genesis > Yes for three main reasons : their double album was miles better than Tales, their albums were longer and less repetitious making more bang for your buck and their sell out was more successful. I think a new release by Gabriel Hackett Rutherford Collins and Banks would be more exciting than any Yes release.
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Posted By: Endless_Enigma
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:41
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Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Phil Collins << Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford <<< Chris Squire Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson Tony Banks < or = Rick Wakeman <>Albums
From Genesis to REvelations > Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge Genesis Live > Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans (Very hard choice for me) Trick By the tail < Relayer Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one And there were three - Tormato (neither) Duke > Drama Genesis > 90125 Acabab > Big Generator That was actually a lot harder for me to do than I thought it would be. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:53
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My choices are in red, the size marks how better is one from the other. Members Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe Phil Collins vs Alan White Edit : Phil Collins vs Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes Tresspass vs Time and a Word Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album Foxtrot vs Fragile Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (Slightly better) Genesis Live vs Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail vs Relayer Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one And there were three vs Tormato (Neither) Duke vs Drama Genesis vs 90125 (even when both are bad) Acabab vs Big Generator (Neither) Iván
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 00:56
Abacab isnt so bad...I kinda like it
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Posted By: RUM26
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:19
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damm, can't say much because i don't know really any of yes, so it's genesis. ------------- SHEP get with the program |
Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:36
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I like it too. |
Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 02:38
| Genesis all the way... although I think Going For The One is slightly better than Wind & Wuthering. |
Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 03:13
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Members Steve Hackett = Steve Howe Phil Collins < Bill Bruford Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson Tony Banks = Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes (haven't heard either of them) Tresspass vs Time and a Word (haven't heard either of them) Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot = Fragile (Such a hard decision! They both have fabulous guitar pieces that I know how to play.) Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge (Equally as great) Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans (Musicianship on "Tales..." was much greater than it was on "Lamb...". Genesis on "Lamb..." sort of held back and it seemed that Peter Gabriel was the most featured member.) Trick of the tail > Relayer (Simply because "Entangled" is one of my favorite Genesis songs. Also because these are two very different albums. I have to be in a certain "experimental" mood to listen to "Relayer".) Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one ("Going for the One" does almost nothing for me. A few good tracks. "Wind and Wuthering" has some beautiful instrumentals and a fine classical guitar piece.) And there were three < Tormato (Genesis had lost Steve Hackett at this point, and it only went downhill from there. However, Yes still had Steve Howe, and "Future Times/Rejoice" is a wonderful song.) Duke = Drama (I don't care much for either of these.) Genesis < 90125 (I'm a sucker for "Owner of a Lonely Heart" and "Leave it".) Acabab < Big Generator (Abacab is probably the worst Genesis album. I enjoy a lot of songs on "Big Generator", however.) ... Genesis = Yes They both had their good and bad moments, but since they had different styles and great musicians on both sides, it's hard for me to say which is better than the other overall.
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 04:44
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Steve Hackett = Steve Howe
Phil Collins >> Alan White Phil Collins < Bill Bruford Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to Revelations < Yes Trespass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound = Close To The Edge (WOW, This one's a tough one! Like picking your favourite child...) Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway >> Tales of Topographic Oceans Trick of the Tail = Relayer (Another tough one...) Wind and Wuthering > Going for the One And Then There Were Three >> Tormato Duke = Drama Genesis > 90125 Abacab >> Big Generator
Genesis > Yes ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: Sir Hogweed
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 04:46
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Steve Hackett = Steve Howe (atmospheres vs flamboyancy). Phil Collins > Alan White (would Yes have survived with Alan White singing Jon's stuff?) Edit : Phil Collins <= Bill Bruford Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire (doubleneck vs tripleneck) Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson Tony Banks = Rick Wakeman (great arrangements vs great playing)
Albums Nursery Crime >= The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile (= Nursery Crime) Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail < Relayer (never change a winning team vs always change a losing team) Wind and Wuthering <= Going for the one (Awaken saves the day) And there were three - Tormato (both suck) Duke > Drama (and Abacab = Drama) Genesis = 90125 (both not bad) Invisible Touch - Big Generator We Cannot Dance <= Union Calling all stations So what does this all mean? |
Posted By: Publius
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 05:56
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Members Steve Hackett > Steve Howe (IMO) Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford > Chris Squire (Much more dynamic, and plays guitar too) Peter Gabriel > Jon Anderson (Matter of taste) Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman (Far more subtle)
Albums
From Genesis to Revelations < Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime > The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge Genesis Live > Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick of the tail > Relayer Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one And there were three = Tormato (Both going downhill) Duke < Drama (I HATE Duke) Genesis > 90125 (For Mama only) Acabab = Big Generator (Oh christ...) ... ------------- I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8 |
Posted By: Earthbound
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:05
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Members Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins = Alan White Edit : Phil Collins << Bill Bruford ( Bruford is the prog drummer!!!) Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson (2 genius!!!) Tony Banks << Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations << Yes Tresspass = Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge Genesis Live vs Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadways >> Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail< Relayer Wind and Wuthering = Going for the one (but "turn of the century" is a monument!!!! And there were three > Tormato Duke = Drama Genesis << 90125 Acabab < Big Generator |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:44
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Steve Hackett < Steve Howe
Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman Albums From Genesis to REvelations = Yes Tresspass < Time and a Word Nursery Crime > The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail > Relayer Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one And there were three < Tormato Duke < Drama Genesis < 90125 Acabab = Big Generator Which means.. Genesis < Yes Although both are great bands and the 2 most important prog bands IMO ! |
Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 06:53
So do I... "Abacab" is IMHO the best "pop" album Genesis has ever made. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:02
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Steve Hackett << Steve Howe Phil Collins = Alan White Edit : Phil Collins << Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire Peter Gabriel <<< Jon Anderson (Jon sounds like an angel, Peter like a lamb on broadway) Tony Banks << Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations < Yes Tresspass < Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot = Fragile Selling England By the Pound << Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail << Relayer Wind and Wuthering << Going for the one And there were three < Tormato Duke < Drama Genesis < 90125 Acabab < Big Generator
Not very hard since I as you may have understod like YES much more
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:38
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I'm not going to compare the musicians because I think they're all brilliant. As far as the albums go From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes Tresspass vs Time and a Word Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album (just) Foxtrot (for Supper's Ready) vs Fragile Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (just) Genesis Live vs Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail vs Relayer by a mile Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one And there were three vs Tormato Duke vs Drama Genesis vs 90125 Acabab vs Big Generator Very hard to compare up until ATTWT then Yes win by a mile. |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 07:56
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YES! I personally find Genesis extremely boring. Good music(till the 80's) and good musicians but it does nothing to me. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 08:29
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Members Steve Hackett > Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins > Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations <<< Yes Tresspass < Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot < Fragile Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge Genesis Live > Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway < Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail < Relayer Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one And there were three <<< Tormato Duke <<<< Drama Genesis <<<< 90125 Acabab << Big Generator ... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 16:46
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Members Steve Hackett > Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins = Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford = Chris Squire Peter Gabriel >> Jon Anderson Tony Banks >> Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations << Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime > The Yes Album Foxtrot >> Fragile Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail > Relayer Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one And there were three > Tormato Duke = Drama Genesis < 90125 Acabab < Big Generator ... Genesis > Yes ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 16:56
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Members Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to Revelations < Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime = The Yes Album Foxtrot < Fragile Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail < Relayer Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one And there were three = Tormato Duke < Drama Genesis < 90125 Acabab > Big Generator Genesis < Yes ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 16:57
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Members, I'm comparing them talent wise. For example, I like Peter Gabriel's voice better than Jon Anderson (due to the intense emotion that Gabriel has) but I'm saying that Anderson is greater than Gabriel because he has a better voice. Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
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From Genesis to REvelations = Yes Tresspass < Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound < Close To The Edge Genesis Live < Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail < Relayer Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one And there were three < Tormato Duke < Drama Genesis = 90125 Acabab = Big Generator
Even though I picked Yes for almost every single topic I like listening to Genesis better. If "More Fool Me" wasn't on Selling England I would have voted differently but since CTTE has no flaw and SEBTP has more fool me, the vote goes to Yes. Theres no question that Yes is more talented than Genesis member to member but I feel that Genesis write more emotional songs that are more enjoyable to listen to. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 17:29
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Tie!Posted By: omri
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 17:30
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Since Genesys is a very old love and I know them much better than I know Yes I will not vote on this thread. What is interesting That allmost everyone agrees that as players Yes are much better ones (with the exception on the singer) but the gap between the bands is much smaller when we deal with the music itself. It means that composing and song writing is more important than virtuosity. Better keep that in mind. I must say that there are 2 mistakes on the album names : A trick of the tale and And then there were three. If we love the music we should respect it and write the accurate names. ------------- omri |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 17:31
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Make a darn poll!!!!!! Anyways, Yes is slightly better than Genesis due to Chris Squire's amazing ability. |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 18:25
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I apologize for the wrong album titles, I will edit it now. |
Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:37
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Yes is the superior band ------------- I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon... |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 19:40
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I agree! |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:21
Forget all these silly songs v others, Yes are are a mile higher than Gabriel's Genesis and they were stupendous;Yes are the greatest rock band on the planet.Their halcyon first 7 albums cannot be approached by no other prog band.Stop these silly threads and I won't have to reply  goodnight
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:24
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Theres no doubt about that. Yes is the superior band with superior talent. Buuuut Genesis is better. (IMO) ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:26
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Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 20:30
Meh, to each his own. And superior, better, those two words are practically synonyms. ------------- I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon... |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 00:28
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Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins = Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Peter Gabriel = Jon Anderson Tony Banks > Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations << Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime < The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By the Pound > Close To The Edge Genesis Live = Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway >> Tales of topographic oceans Trick of the tail < Relayer Wind and Wuthering < Going for the one And then there were three > Tormato Duke > Drama Genesis < 90125 Acabab > Big Generator
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 06:15
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Love the first two Yes LPs....great jazzy band that specialized in far out covers. The first two Genesis LPs do little for me....some of Tresspass points the direction to the future....and some of the 12 string and flute passages were pretty groovy. Of course, the lads in Yes were a bit older.....the members of Genesis were barely out of school when they made the first LP. The addition of Howe accelerated the eap forward into the realm of epic prog. Genesis, too, was heading in that direction with the very fine Nursery Cryme....but, again, Yes were the much more mature band and it really shows....The Yes Album is a true classic while Nursery Cryme, though an excellent LP and a HUGE leap forward for the band, simply pales in comparison. Foxtrot and Selling England By The Pound are signature Genesis....no other band could have pulled off the vague English references and folksy themes of these albums. They mark the absolute high points of the band and are certainly true progressive classics. The same goes for Fragile and Close to the Edge.....the group and individual performances showed the boys were virtuosos and the true vanguard of the prog movement. Verdict: too close to call....don't wanna call....absolute must-have albums. The Lamb is simply a more interesting record than Tales....though Tales contains some absolute stunning passages. The Lamb was a real departure in sound for Genesis while Tales just rehashes their side long style. On the flip side, Relayer is a much more daring LP than Trick of the Tail. Relayer, while at times wildly atypical of the band's sound, is masterfully played if, at times, a bit bombastic, but definitely a prog record in every sense of the word. Trick is a friendly bear hug of an album....sweet and bouncy and kind on the ears, but not very progressive. Wind is where it ends for Genesis....but what an ending. A solid return to the prog form. And, again, at the same time Yes took a step back from prog in search of a radio friendly sound. The bands almost seem to have been spying on each other....when one went proggy, the other went pop! Never really noticed that before. I won't go on....no LP after these really interest me. I probably have owned and sold each and every release by Genesis after Wind. Interesting pop music, but nothing to hold the ear too long....Three Sides Live might make it to the turntable on occasions. As for post-GFTO Yes, I kinda like Tormato....and Drama has some interesting moments....but almost everything I heard after that is really drab....even the live stabs at the old classics....just bland. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 05:08
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Jon Anderson < Peter Gabriel Steve Hackett = Steve Howe Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Phil Collins = Bill Bruford Phil Collins > Alan White
From Genesis to Revelation < Yes Trespass > Time and a Word Nursery Cryme = The Yes Album Foxtrot = Fragile Selling England By the Pound < Close to the Edge The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales From Topographic Oceans A Trick of the Tale < Relayer Wind & Wuthering > Going for the One And Then There Were Three < Tormato Duke < Drama Abacab > 90125 Genesis > Big Generator Invisible Touch < Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe We Can't Dance < Union Calling All Stations < Talk nothing < everything Yes has done since Yes wins. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 05:30
Albums:
Genesis wins, IMO! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Omayyad
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 05:45
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From Genesis To Revelations vs Yes Tresspass vs Time And A Word Nursery Cryme vs The Yes Album Foxtrot vs Fragile Selling England By The Pound vs Close To The Edge Genesis Live vs Yessongs The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway vs Tales Of Topographic Oceans A Trick Of The Tail vs Relayer Wind And Wuthering vs Going For The One And Then There Were Three vs Tormato Duke vs Drama Genesis vs 90125 Acabab vs Big Generator
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:26
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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 16:37
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Members Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe Phil Collins vs Alan White Edit : Phil Collins vs Bill Bruford Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson (Equal. I like Jon's voice MUCH better, but Peter is a better frontman. I also like Jon's philosophy that the way the words sound is more important that what they mean.) Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman
Albums I haven't heard all of the albums neccesary to judge all of these categories, but I can at least do the classics: Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album by a LOT Foxtrot vs Fragile Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge Genesis Live vs Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales From Topographic oceans (Greatest album of all time!!!) Trick of the tail vs Relayer Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one
Genesis vs Yes!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 17:33
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I'll only rate the albums i know, by both bands. Members Steve Hackett vs Steve Howe (i don't like either as much as the other Steve H., of Gong) Phil Collins vs Alan White (but Bruford is better the Collins and no mistake) Mike Rutherford vs Chris Squire (pretty obvious is an understatement) Peter Gabriel vs Jon Anderson (equal, as mentioned earlier Gabrial has the emotion but Anderson the range) Tony Banks vs Rick Wakeman (who can top the caped crusader?) So Genesis 1 point, Yes 3 points Albums Tresspass vs Time and a Word Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album Foxtrot vs Fragile (equal, i can't decide...) Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge (personal enjoyment Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans (extremely close) Trick of the tail vs Relayer Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one Genesis 3 points, Yes 3 points
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Posted By: assg
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 22:46
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From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes Tresspass vs Time and a Word Nursery Crime vs The Yes Album Foxtrot vs Fragile Selling England By the Pound vs Close To The Edge Genesis Live vs Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway vs Tales of topographic oceans Trick By the tail vs Relayer Wind and Wuthering vs Going for the one
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Posted By: James Hill
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 23:10
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In both bands prime they played as good as music played in the history of rock music.I think Genesis had better vocals and lyrics but from a musicianship standpoint Yes cant be matched.I hated the pop music played by both bands.
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 23:40
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I wanna play! Steve Hackett < Steve Howe Alan White < or = Phil Collins < Bill Bruford Mike Rutherford < Chris Squire Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson (But only by a little bit) Tony Banks < Rick Wakeman
Nursery Cryme < The Yes Album Foxtrot > Fragile Selling England By The Pound < CTTE The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway = TFTO ATOTT < Relayer W&W < GFTO Hmm, favored Yes a lot more. Oh well. Still love Genesis. |
Posted By: terrapin
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 01:06
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I don't know the purpose or find any sense to comparisons between bands, we're not talking about soccer teams, I consider music an ART, so I just enjoy listening to it. If I like this album or the other should be a very private & intimate matter, it sounds so snob when I hear people arguing about different bands. There, that's my humble opinion...
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Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 18:29
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i like Yes more, but i cannot bring myself to say they're better than Genesis, or that genesis is worse. I can however say that in my opinion, Yes has much more good material. After the 70's, Yes have still done some solid stuff (Magnification, Keystudio, The Ladder) Genesis for me, stops after steve hacket left the band. Yes is still making good music. Genesis aren't. so from a consistancy or a "how long they have lasted and can still write" standpoint, Yes win. unless, you dont like Yes' newer albums, then, i guess its a tie. |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 19:08
| Seems like we have seen these comparisons before. As for me, I think both are great but can hardly be compared very well. Their styles are just too different IMO. They did, however, follow a similar path from being great prog bands to great pop bands. Too bad they couldn't just keep making the same great stuff that made them great to begin with. |
Posted By: Shaman
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 20:46
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Strawberry flavor vs chocolate flavor, I prefer chocolate thanks. |
Posted By: Gorloche
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 21:04
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Members
Steve Hackett << Steve Howe (Hackett plays his guitars with no attack) Phil Collins > Alan White (Phil really is a great drummer...) Phil Collins <<< Bill Bruford (...but Bruford is one of the people I model my playing after) Mike Rutherford << Chris Squire (All I have to say is The Fish) Peter Gabriel < Jon Anderson (I prefer Jon because of his range and writing; I love heady, intellectual topics) Tony Banks <<< Rick Wakeman (All bow before the Lord, our God... Rick Wakeman)
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations vs Yes (Haven't heard FGtR) Tresspass vs Time and a Word (Haven't heard TaaW) Nursery Crime << The Yes Album (Starship Trooper and Perpetual Change, people) Foxtrot > Fragile (Not because the songs are better, but simply
because there are more group works, though I love both dearly) Selling England By the Pound << Close To The Edge (Perfect all the way through) Genesis Live <<< Yessongs (My favorite album) Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (> for composition)(< for writing) Tales of topographic oceans Trick of the tail <<< Relayer (The Gates of Delerium is better than any single thing Genesis ahs done) Wind and Wuthering >> Going for the one (I hate GftO) And then there were three > Tormato (Ditto; as in, my hate for GftO is so great, I also ahte Tormato) Duke << Drama (Drama was great, Duke was sh*te) Genesis < 90125 (I hate sellout-era Genesis...) Acabab >>> Big Generator (...but Big Generator might actually be the worst thing ever) ... Genesis < Yes The reason why people like Genesis is because their music is like a
puzzle. Everything has its place, fits, and makes the whole picture
look great. I like Yes for the opposite reason; clashing,
over-dramatic, pretentious w**kery on instruments to abstract Romantic
poetry about the land and ideas. The slashing of Howe, the stabbing of
Squire, the rapid-fire cuts of Wakeman, and the kind of tumbling, fiery
feeling of Bruford/White underneath the serene singing of Jon with a
voice reaching everywhere at once, building tension in you without
changing his singing style. Gabriel tries for tension through his
singing and succeeds. Jon does it through accentuation and pitch.
Whereas Genesis is a puzzle, Yes is a blooming flower on the field of
war. I still can't listen to Close to the Edge without getting the
feeling that the music is telling about a war (and yes, I don't mean
The Gates of Delerium). That, and I like the heady, abstract lyrics
that you actually understand less if you try to conciously figure them
out. As Jon once said: "Straight light moving and removing sharpness of the color sunshine.
Straight light searching all the meanings of the song long last
treatment that relates to all the word sung. Dreamer easy in the chair
that really fits you." I love 'em. |
Posted By: Evan1211
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 23:02
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I am very dissapointed at the lack of support for Mike Rutherford here! Just because he is not loud and crunchy and somewhat lower in the mix doesnt mean anything. His playing is theoretically (music theory wise that is) equal to or HARDER than Chris'. I play bass and find Rutherford's "Visions of Angels" equally as hard to play CORRECTLY as Chris' Heart of the Sunrise. People seem to hate the man's playing for some odd reason and its a trend I've noticed for some time now. Im sorry, but as a player, they are equally as challenging and creative on bass. Overall though, Yes is a TAD better than Genesis. ------------- 
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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 00:25
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It would suck. -------------
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Sorry, but those two (although equally brilliant) aren't interchangeable. Peter should dare not trespass (no pun intended) on Yes territory, and vice versa.Posted By: DarHobo
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:43
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Well, I was reading another forum where a "fan" of Genesis was saying how much better they are then YES. He said something along the lines of "How can you even compare the musicians of Genesis to YES, I can name all of the musicians from Genesis off the top of my head. Do you think you can do that with YES, NO! All that comes to mind is Chris Squire." Now as I was reading this I was just laughing. And then he goes onto to say "Besides Genesis had way more hits than YES,(Then he names all of the lame 80's Genesis pop songs that were hits.) And said do you think YES can do that?
Oh yeah. YES>Genesis |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:13
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Any "classic" album by Yes beat any "classic" album by Genesis IMO ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: samhob
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:04
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yeah.... i dont like genesis ... ( though i hear several times their albums) i really dont like it... But I Love yes ... these two bands only share the same music genre label for me |
Posted By: GatesOfDelirium
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:09
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I can't choose. But I will say that Trespass slightly edges out The Yes Album for one reason and one reason only: The Knife. |
Posted By: Zooka_Jesus
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:19
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Members Steve Hackett <<<< Steve Howe Phil Collins > Alan White Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford (if you wish) Mike Rutherford <<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<< Chris Squire Peter Gabriel <<< Jon Anderson Tony Banks <<<<<<<<<<< Rick Wakeman
Albums
From Genesis to REvelations < Yes Tresspass > Time and a Word Nursery Crime <<<<< The Yes Album Foxtrot <<<<<<<<<<<< ;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ;<<<<<<<<<<<<, Fragile Selling England By the Pound <<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<, Close To The Edge Genesis Live <<<<<<<<<<< Yessongs Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans Trick of the tail <<<<<<<<<<<<&l t;< Relayer Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one And then there were three > Tormato Duke >>>> Drama Genesis >>>>>>>> 90125 Acabab < Big Generator ... Genesis <<<<<<<< Yes ------------- Gentle Gaint owns every prog band 
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Posted By: Evan1211
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:28
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Anyone care to give me an idea about this blatent Rutherfordian -------------
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Posted By: moncholo
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:56
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genesis is way better in every single aspect for me... and i like Yes |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 06:19
| definitely Genesis win... i like some Yes stuff but most from late 70s and early 80s. and Genesis recorded really good albums when Peter Gabriel was the singer. my fav is Lamb Lies Down On Broadway it's something that Yes never recorded. |
Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 09:33
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Rutherford is one of the best bassists ever. But Chris Squire had a much bigger impact on the music than Rutherford did. You could say he was the backbone of the band, and the bass was the basis for most of Yes's best songs. The rest of the band just road those bass lines. When I think Genesis though, the first thing that comes to mind is the keyboards. Particularly the organ and mellotron. Banks was the driving force behind the band just as Squire was the driving force for Yes. Rutherford's melodic phrasing, however, is better than Squire's, but he was not the driving force. That's why Squire wins. |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 09:58
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I am about to go upstream...
One thing I must say is that to me there are so many differences between these two great groups that I can't restrict it to a X beats Y or viceversa. Any comparison is unfair...they developed their OUTSTANDING ideas in different ways! That said, I'm gonna get bashed, since these are my preferences:
Genesis are my second favourite band of all times (after The Beatles)...I DO like Yes a great deal, but they disappoint me more frequently than Genesis... ------------- A flower? 
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