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Topic: Quentin Tarantino Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:44 |
They all are, of course, perfect masterpieces, but which one is the best?
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spectral
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:48 |
I voted Pulp Fiction because it is his most complete work. Reservoir Dogs is an amazing film, the combination of the violence and character driven story. I only hope he doesn't wait as long between films to make his next one.
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:58 |
I voted Resevoir Dogs,I love that movie.And honestly,I really wouldn't call Jackie Brown a masterpiece.
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 07:03 |
Pulp Fiction!
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 07:16 |
Pulp Fiction for me too!
Tarantino's next film will, to my knowledge, come out next year; "Inglorious Bastards".
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 09:36 |
Pulp Fiction
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 18:30 |
Pulp Fiction
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:38 |
Pulp is great. Definitely a "prog movie"
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:42 |
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Drew
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:44 |
all these movies suck- the guy's a freak
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Logos
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 15:29 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
But I love all his works. Where are "Four Rooms" and "Sin City"(I know he made it with Rodriguez and Miller)?
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He only directed one scene of Sin City.
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Logos
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 15:30 |
Drew wrote:
all these movies suck- the guy's a freak |
Two options.
1. This is a joke.
or
2. You're a joke.
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 16:11 |
Drew wrote:
all these movies suck- the guy's a freak |
are u in the right place prog= freak
"Well yeah. I was just sitting here, eating my muffin, drinking my coffee, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity"
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 01:45 |
I voted Kill Bill, it maybe one of his least proggy movies but I like
the carnage and the story, even if the blood sometimes seems to be
strawberry-flavor milk
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 13:21 |
Honestly, I really want to hear from one of you guys why everyone finds
Tarantino so wonderful. I have done extensive reading about film
and have taken classes on film study, and I even make some shorts
myself, and I honestly don't find Tarantino even remotely
interesting. His films are just glorified violence. I don't
mind violence if it contributes to the plot, but Tarantino's films have
terrible plots. Violence is fine as a means to an end of creating
a meaningful movie that displays the harsh realiities of life, but for
Tarantino, violence is the end in and of itself, which is what I object
to. His storylines are uninteresting, his characters are not well
developed, and he does not use any innovative filming techniques.
Personally, I think foreign directors are far better than Americans at
the moment, but if you're looking for an innovative American filmmaker,
I highly recommend Darren Aronofsky. His two movies, Pi and
Requiem for a Dream, certainly don't shy away from harsh realities, but
they have memorable stories and characters in a way that Tarantino
never will. He also uses an interesting montage technique to show
drug abuse in Requiem for a Dream. Why is it that everyone thinks
Tarantino is such a genius? Is it just society's fascination with
violence for its own sake?
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spectral
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:05 |
stripthesoul wrote:
Honestly, I really want to hear from one of you guys why everyone finds Tarantino so wonderful. I have done extensive reading about film and have taken classes on film study, and I even make some shorts myself, and I honestly don't find Tarantino even remotely interesting. His films are just glorified violence. I don't mind violence if it contributes to the plot, but Tarantino's films have terrible plots. Violence is fine as a means to an end of creating a meaningful movie that displays the harsh realiities of life, but for Tarantino, violence is the end in and of itself, which is what I object to. His storylines are uninteresting, his characters are not well developed, and he does not use any innovative filming techniques. Personally, I think foreign directors are far better than Americans at the moment, but if you're looking for an innovative American filmmaker, I highly recommend Darren Aronofsky. His two movies, Pi and Requiem for a Dream, certainly don't shy away from harsh realities, but they have memorable stories and characters in a way that Tarantino never will. He also uses an interesting montage technique to show drug abuse in Requiem for a Dream. Why is it that everyone thinks Tarantino is such a genius? Is it just society's fascination with violence for its own sake? |
For me it's not the violence, I love his characterisations and the interplay between the characters. The violence is secondary, when you watch a group of bank robbers discussing Madonna's - Like a Virgin or the gay undetones of Top Gun, you're not looking at them as murderers or thieves, you are marvelling at the script. Writing is Tarantino's real strength.
You're definitely right on one point though, the most imaginative and interesting films are being created outside of LA and Hollywood. Europe has an incredible set of innovative filmmakers at the present.
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Logos
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:43 |
The dialogue and the strong characters in Tarantino's films is the main thing for me. Sorry stripthesoul, but I wonder, have you even seen his films? Reservoir Dogs, violence for violence's sake? Hardly so. Pulp Fiction, nothing but 2½ hours of shooting and fighting? I don't think so. And the movies also have loads of black humour.
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:41 |
Yeah!! only violence!!!!
Seriously, Tarantino has made good movies 'cause of how he uses his
characters. Underdeveloped but they show several faces of themselves
through the story. You can think for example that Uma will kill
the little girl after the first fight in Kill Bill but she doesn't and
that's good, he gives a little twist to the story that will leave you
guessin' what happened for the rest of your life.
I would say that he may not be the best director in the whole
world but in the Hollywood(Mainstream) scene he is one of the most
experimental director
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:49 |
Tarantino is so damn good with dialogue. In my opinion it is the dialogue that really drives his movies. It is incredibly real and interesting. Everything else is great too.
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