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Paco Fox
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 03:30 |
So, where's folk prog? . That is my favourite genre, even above symphonic...
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Man Erg
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 04:28 |
Krautrock - Kosmische/Space/ Rock
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sigod
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 04:29 |
Paco Fox wrote:
So, where's folk prog? . That is my favourite genre, even above symphonic... |
Oooh, what a good sub-genre; Folk Prog. Would that be 'Mostly Autumn' or 'Fairport Convention'? folk??
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The Hemulen
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 05:13 |
Well.. sorry I've offended so many of you! As it happens, ThreeFates, I love good symphonic prog - Yes being one of my favourite bands of all time, so no bias there... Personally though, I'd say symphonic is the root to most Prog, even Canterbury or Zeuhl! You can disagree if you like, but that's my opinion. Seems like it's impossible to have one on this forum without being attacked.
Oh, and the omission of folk prog is an error on my part, I'm afraid. Apologies for that.
Jigga:
Canterbury - Well, each group had a rather different sound, but there's a definite relationship between them. The basic ingredients are jazzy harmonies, a bit of soloing (the amount varies drastically from group to group), often rather structured music with unusual pop sensibilities and a good dosage of humour.
Caravan would be my recommendation if you're generally into symphonic music - not quite as complicated as some, and plenty of meaty solos.
Hatfield & The North were perhaps Canterbury's finest hour. Catchy tunes, silly lyrics, unusual arrangements and lots of time sig changes. Hugely satisfying music.
The Italians - I've only recently started exploring them, but most of them seem to be quite keyboard-heavy groups with a lot of classical elements (and a fair amount of jazz at times too). It's hard to describe what unifies them, but they really do all sound unmistakeably Italian - even without the vocals. (An ability to cope with foreign language vocals should be fitted as standard when trying out these groups, I should warn you). So, of the 20-odd albums I've heard so far I'd reccomend:
PFM - Per Un Amico. A lot of people suggest starting with Storia Di Un Minutuo. However, I think that this one's just much better.
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! A true masterpiece. Classical moments, extremely cool jazz bits, rocky passages, a brilliant vocalist and a huge helping of je ne sais quoi make this quite simply one of the best albums I've ever heard. If that description makes it sound cluttered/directionless - believe me it isn't. It's the same band from start to finish.
Osanna - Palepoli. Pretty rubbish production on this album but superb music. I especially recommended it if you like VDGG and Tull.
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greenback
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 20:49 |
SYMPHONIC PROG!!
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 20:53 |
Symphonic, Art Rock, Prog Metal.
Im putting neo-prog into the symphonic category because I hate the word neo-prog cuz it's just as complicated as symphonic if you ask me.
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philippe
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 03:35 |
KRAUTROCK is simply the best!!
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Paco Fox
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 04:15 |
sigod wrote:
Paco Fox wrote:
So, where's folk prog? . That is my favourite genre, even above symphonic... |
Oooh, what a good sub-genre; Folk Prog. Would that be 'Mostly Autumn' or 'Fairport Convention'? folk??
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Folk rock is a very difficult genre, because folk stuctures are usually so tight. To call a group folk-prog I usually demand more than Fairport or Steeleye Span. I think these two groups are (very good) folk-rock, but hardly prog.
Folk prog could be what Ian Anderson did in 'Songs from the Wood' and 'Heavy Horses', transcending (specially rythmically) folk structures (cfr, Velvet Green or both title tracks). Also Oldfield's 'Omadawn', The Strawbs' mid.period records...
As with symphonic prog, there are also lots of unknown bands worthy of attention: Pererin, Carol of Harvest, The Morrigan (sometimes)...
And Mostly Autumn, of course
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Paco Fox
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Carl floyd fan
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 08:13 |
what about fusion? like hot rats by zappa for example.....It may not be my favorite sub genre but a lot of other people may like it.
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sigod
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 08:25 |
I'm sure we could invent a new genre
Forum-Prog
1. It starts on one lyrical subject but soon ends up just talking about the size of peoples c*cks or their mothers.
2. It sounds very complex but is really very, very, simple.
3. Band members say they're leaving but never do.
4. Mariah Carey guests on vocals on a daily basis.
5. Forum Prog was better in the 70's.
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artbass
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Posted: November 04 2004 at 16:36 |
After seeing The Tangent life two days ago, I guess it's Canterbury for me, but I also like Art Rock and Neo-Prog - and not to forget Symphonic Prog .
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Carlos
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Posted: November 04 2004 at 16:44 |
SYMPHONIC... PERIOD! IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO POINT OUT THAT GENESIS, ELO AND YES OR ANOTHER OF THE PROG MONSTERS MADE THIS SUB CATHEGORY INTO A PROG ROCK INTO ITSELF (FORGIVE MY ENGLISH I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WAS CORRECT EXPRESSED)... TRIUMVIRAT, FOR INSTANCE IS A GREAT PROG BAND AND IT'S SYMPHONIC... AND I WAS ABOUT TO ASK IF SYMPHONIC WAS INCLUDED ON ART ROCK OR IN THE ITALIAN MOVEMENT (WHICH FOR ME IS SYMPHO MUSIC TOO)... BUT ASIDE OF SYMPHONIC... I WOULD SAY THAT OTHER OF MY FAVO GENRES IS THE ART ROCK.
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Posted: November 04 2004 at 16:58 |
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Posted: November 04 2004 at 21:10 |
my faqvorite would defently be krautrock, of course after synphonic. I LOVE i say LOVE can!
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Olympus
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 02:23 |
art rock is good..... Most of the time.
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Pablo_P
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:14 |
Art rock, progressive metal, neo progressive rock, psychedelic/space rock...
yeah, I like it
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 02:18 |
Canterbury scene for sure although I like em all besides prog metal
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