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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 04:34 |
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C'mon Demons and Wizards is not prog? I will eat my underwear if that is not prog. There are are so many elements of prog on that album as well as The previous ones as well as the Magician's Birthday.C'mon give your head a shake.[/QUOTE]
Wanna put some salt on that?
I've already shaken it and still receiving nothing... [/QUOTE] "The Wizard" just with the lyrics alone is prog. I'll saturate it with salt.
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The Prognaut
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 04:42 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
landberkdoten wrote:
| C'mon Demons and Wizards is not prog? I will eat my underwear if that is not prog. There are are so many elements of prog on that album as well as The previous ones as well as the Magician's Birthday.C'mon give your head a shake. |
Wanna put some salt on that?
I've already shaken it and still receiving nothing...
[/QUOTE] "The Wizard" just with the lyrics alone is prog. I'll saturate it with salt.[/QUOTE]
Ok, ok... I just happen to cave-in when women talk me that way
Nah... I think you're somehow right, but just wanted to give you a harsh time
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break the circle
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emdiar
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 05:06 |
I once converted a Motorhead/Sabbath fan into a Prog head via the first 3 Queen albums. Within a few weeks he was listening to Steve Hillage, Floyd, Wakeman and the Enid (!!!). Here are the songs (in blue) which are imo prog with a capital P.
Q1; Keep Yourself Alive, Doing Alright, Great King Rat, My Fairy King, Liar, The Night Comes Down, Modern Times Rock & Roll, Son & Daughter, Jesus, Seven Seas Of Rhye. (ie 7/10ths Prog)
Q2; Procession, Father to son, White Queen, Someday One Day, The Loser In The End, Ogre Battle, The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke, Nevermore, The March Of The Black Queen, Funny How Love Is, Seven Seas OF Rhye. (9/11ths Prog)
Sheer Heart Attack; Brighton Rock, Killer Queen, Tenement Funster, Flick Of The Wrist, Lily Of THe Valley, Now I'm Here, In The Lap Of The Gods, Stone Cold Crazy, Dear Friends, Misfire, Bring Back Leroy Brown, She Makes Me (Stormtrooper In Stilletoes), In The Lap of the Gods... Revisited. (7/13, but the rest are great rock and/or ballads)
And what about The Prophet Song and Bohemian Rhapsody, yet to come? Can't get more Prog than them!!
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emdiar
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 05:55 |
P.S. Anyone heard Foo Fighters version of "Have a Cigar" with BRIAN MAY on axe duties? (on "Air Guitar III".)
Edited by emdiar
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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DoomHammer
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 07:49 |
emdiar wrote:
I once converted a Motorhead/Sabbath fan into a Prog head via the first 3 Queen albums. Within a few weeks he was listening to Steve Hillage, Floyd, Wakeman and the Enid (!!!). Here are the songs (in blue) which are imo prog with a capital P.
Q1; Keep Yourself Alive, Doing Alright, Great King Rat, My Fairy King, Liar, The Night Comes Down, Modern Times Rock & Roll, Son & Daughter, Jesus, Seven Seas Of Rhye. (ie 7/10ths Prog)
Q2; Procession, Father to son, White Queen, Someday One Day, The Loser In The End, Ogre Battle, The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke, Nevermore, The March Of The Black Queen, Funny How Love Is, Seven Seas OF Rhye. (9/11ths Prog)
Sheer Heart Attack; Brighton Rock, Killer Queen, Tenement Funster, Flick Of The Wrist, Lily Of THe Valley, Now I'm Here, In The Lap Of The Gods, Stone Cold Crazy, Dear Friends, Misfire, Bring Back Leroy Brown, She Makes Me (Stormtrooper In Stilletoes), In The Lap of the Gods... Revisited. (7/13, but the rest are great rock and/or ballads)
And what about The Prophet Song and Bohemian Rhapsody, yet to come? Can't get more Prog than them!!
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C'mon ! Queen Prog? i really dont feel that, even the songs you mentioned i only find them rock, plain rock, maybe some Rock and roll but not pro1. It's just that the time those albums were made was a proggy time, all rock bands then seemed prog. just like in 80's most metal bands were either like metallica, slayer, judas priest or death, and even in this musical dark ages we are living in most bands seem useless hardcore or alternative.
Maybe b'cause Camel, Pink Floyd and Marillion are my Prog heroes i can be a little closed minded about my definition of prog rock and about Queen being a prog band although i love'em
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when i sell my life story, maybe i should write it first and do the living later 'cause life is so much cleaner on the page
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Joren
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 10:13 |
None of them are prog as far as I know (I only know MOST of the bands in the list). Let's not waste our time on trying to add the Beatles to the archives! CAPTAIN BEEFHEART deserves a spot!
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emdiar
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 10:30 |
Hi Doomhammer, I don't know if I'd call them "plain" rock. Queen were so unique that it's hard to link them to a contemperary, and perhaps that's why so many Prog heads have a problem including them. I, too, put them into a different catagory of Prog to Yes/Genesis/ELP but all those three differ and Floyd belong somewhere else all together. All these Bands are nevertheless Prog. No "plain" rock band has ever proffered such lush symphonic guitar work as Brian May, more than making up for the lack of electronic keyboards, and as for the vocal arrangements.....Prog mate! Prog prog PROG!
If you still take issue, please allow me to refer you to my motto, as written below.
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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CrimsonKing
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 14:12 |
URIAH HEEP FOR SURE
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RED EYE
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CrimsonKing
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 14:14 |
Joren wrote:
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART deserves a spot! |
YES JOREN, CAPTAIN BEEFHEART FOR SURE
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RED EYE
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DoomHammer
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 17:51 |
I said before i love Queen and they are the first rock band for me ever besides saying "plain" rock doesnt mean "bad" rock. i just have a picture of queen that doesnt fit in the place of progressive rock in my head
i still think they are not prog, not prog, not prog (never said it's a fact)
anyway if they are included in the archives then they belong here more than another bands that are already here
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when i sell my life story, maybe i should write it first and do the living later 'cause life is so much cleaner on the page
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: June 06 2004 at 20:38 |
I was and am, a huge Queen fan. Saw them three times in the 70's. Queen was not prog, though they had some prog songs. They were more than Rock, too. Queen wrote the book on musical diversity. Queen I was their version of Led Zeppelin. II was prog. Sheer was the beginning of the ultra-genre-defying album which they repeated through the next 25 years. Queen tried hard to defy labels. As much as I'm a fan, they aren't prog.
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moonchild
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Posted: June 07 2004 at 00:19 |
Arcturus > La Masquerade Infernal deserves a spot.
*waits for the rotten tomatoes to be hurled in my direction*
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In the Wake of Poseidon
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The Prognaut
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Posted: June 07 2004 at 00:23 |
moonchild wrote:
Arcturus > La Masquerade Infernal deserves a spot.
*waits for the rotten tomatoes to be hurled in my direction*
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"Squish! Thud! Bam! Yaaaaargh!" <----- moon right after the tomato shower!!!
Great doom metal band BTW... but definitely not prog
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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moonchild
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Posted: June 07 2004 at 00:28 |
Oh well At least I'm not the only one that picked it.
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In the Wake of Poseidon
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The Prognaut
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Posted: June 07 2004 at 16:50 |
moonchild wrote:
Oh well At least I'm not the only one that picked it. |
You damn right! So it looks like somebody's still missing to be tomatoe hurled!
Arcturus' fans volunteers?
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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emdiar
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Posted: June 08 2004 at 05:15 |
DoomHammer wrote:
I said before i love Queen and they are the first rock band for me ever besides saying "plain" rock doesnt mean "bad" rock. i just have a picture of queen that doesnt fit in the place of progressive rock in my head
i still think they are not prog, not prog, not prog (never said it's a fact)
anyway if they are included in the archives then they belong here more than another bands that are already here
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Ok, by way of contradicting myself I must observe that where as every Yes fan I've ever met counts his/her self a Proghead, it seems quite easy to be a Queen fan with no such affiliations.
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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DoomHammer
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Posted: June 08 2004 at 08:53 |
emdiar wrote:
Ok, by way of contradicting myself I must observe that where as every Yes fan I've ever met counts his/her self a Proghead, it seems quite easy to be a Queen fan with no such affiliations.
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i hate affiliations too, i listen to 50's sinatra, prog and even death metal.
BTW, everybody loves QUEEN , i've never seen anybody that hates queen. they are the champions
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when i sell my life story, maybe i should write it first and do the living later 'cause life is so much cleaner on the page
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Olympus
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 02:38 |
Queen for me.
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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Valarius
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 04:06 |
None of them is Prog.
Although if I absolutely HAD to pick one, I'd say Uriah Heep.
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 04:32 |
Arcturus
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