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wallace 
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 Topic: Welsh Prog
Posted: May 21 2005 at 11:47 |
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Oy Snowdonia Dog!
Yer locater'd in Wales, roight?
Wha's th' used rekkid store sitcheratioon lik ?
Middlin' or raither feckin' dismal lik evraywhere else.
Wallace be i' need o' these vinyls. (Ah'll trade rare Canadians.) Please tae keep a mince pie (eye) ope fer dem:
MALACHI -SAME '72
PERERIN - TEITHGAN '81
-HAUL AR... '79
-TIRON DIR '83 (Aye, ah kens sum o' thaim wert reissered on CD by Spanish ootfit. Ah wants vinyl.)
BRAN - HEDFRAN '76
-AIL DDECHRA '75
Ah doan suppose MAN lps were releas'd on Welsh labels???
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Fer yew anoraks, sum Welsh luminaries:
DAVE EDMUNDS & LOVE SCULPTURE
PERCY JONES
BLUE WEAVER
JOHN 'PUGWASH' WEATHERS
QUICKSAND
EYES OF BLUE
'TWEKE' LEWIS AND PICKFORD-HOPKINS
BIG SLEEP
AMEN CORNER
TAFF WILLIAMS
ROGER GLOVER
PAT MORAN - produced Hawkwind, Hammill,Renia, Lindisfarne (an' some charn best forgot)
BLONDE ON BLONDE
NEUTRONS
HELP YOURSELF (Mesell, Ah doan care fer dis 'rural' westcoast-inflerenced prog)
Did yer lot ken tha BAITH Spring lps wert recorded in Wales?
Aye, thare's a SECUND, but ye'll noo likely evar be 'earin' it.
Mair th'pity.
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abyssyinfinity
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 11:59 |
I owe Pererin cd, fantastic and highly recommendable, recently Italian Akarma reprinted it also on vinyl... 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 12:00 |
I dont know the answer to the Man question, and I'll look out for yer albums if I ever go to a second hand record store.
A Farewell To kings was also recorded in Wales at Rockford, There are the sound of Welsh sparrows on the album. I ont think the birds realise that they are Welsh tho. Probably immigrants!
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Jimbo
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 13:00 |
If I remember correctly, Gnidrolog were from Wales. Great band 
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frenchie
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 13:11 |
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super furry animals are one of my favourite bands. As well as Manic Street Preachers. Stereophonics and Feeder are ok. I can probably think of more on another day, but not right now.
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wallace
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 13:26 |
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Gnidrolog noo Welsh.
(Surrey metinks.)
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Harlequin
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 13:36 |
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There used to be an excellent second hand record shop in Porthmadog. Where in wales are u snow dog?
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Information is not knowledge
Knowledge is not wisdom
Wisdom is not truth
Truth is not beauty
Beauty is not love
Love is not music
Music is the best...
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Heptade
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 14:09 |
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At least one website claims Gnidrolog were Welsh,
but the internet is often wrong.
Budgie, Badfinger, John Cale, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci,
Mary Hopkin, Karnataka (some call 'em prog...), all
Welsh.
Ivor the Engine, Welsh....
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wallace
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 15:14 |
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Mebbe someain tink Gnidrolog Welsh cos o' th' quare band name.
Acturely tha' cum aybit dis way: its a transpoositioon o' letters inna family name Goldring (wiv th'addition o' extra "o").
By th' by, Collin Goldring playit recorders on Yes' "Your Move".
Maister Stewart Goldring's favorite Gnidrolog lyric be:
"Sightless I am, cadaver born,
By critic's pen, my task is torn.
Remnants that once were principals, now but rags
In a Pauper's tomb."
Aye, me task is torn - soundits akin tae Maani joust annhilatin' me wondrous post on Engerlish Mannerisms in Prog.
Whilst allowing Belva's visual pornography free reign.
Curious cove, dis moderator o' youren.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:27 |
 wallace wrote:
Ah doan suppose MAN lps were releas'd on Welsh labels???
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United Artists - as Welsh as the Argentine national rugby team.....................
What about John Cale - son of Ammanford - Karl Jenkins ( Nucleus, Soft Machine, Amadeus) - both played in the National Youth Orchestra of Wales at the same time in their teens?
Good space rock from Sons of Selina
And Tom Jones turning his voice to the blues in a big way shouldn't be neglected - check out his single release backed by New Model Army ( Gimme Shelter) and particularly numbers done by Jeff Beck with Tom Jones in part of the the TV film Red White and Blues directed by Mike Figgis (part of the Scorsese produced Blues TV series 18 months ago).
And what was the band who named one of the albums after a tiny
little harbour a kilometre from one of the best beachs on the UK coast, Barafundel?
Edited by Dick Heath
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wallace
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 20:47 |
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Barafundel -tha be Gorky's Zygotic Mynci. "Bawd Time" an' "Tatay" be goodun's as weel. Later dems churnin' oot sum Beach Boys-sound mundungus.
Anither coast place -this tyme coast o' Snowdonia,Wales: Portmeirion.
Who dare tak Wallace on wiv a Prisoner trivia match?
Gwan, ye chuffs!
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transend
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 22:41 |
What about 'Magenta'????
very welsh laddo
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Moribund
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 04:11 |
wallace wrote:
Barafundel -tha be Gorky's Zygotic Mynci. "Bawd Time" an' "Tatay" be goodun's as weel. Later dems churnin' oot sum Beach Boys-sound mundungus.
Anither coast place -this tyme coast o' Snowdonia,Wales: Portmeirion.
Who dare tak Wallace on wiv a Prisoner trivia match?
Gwan, ye chuffs! |
Hey the Myncis! Forgot about them. Barafundle FAB album. Lets get this great band out in the open here!!!
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PROGMAN
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 05:33 |
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There's a Market place in Llanelli , Wales that sell second hand cd's including Man and Deke Lenord.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 14:04 |
wallace wrote:
Anither coast place -this tyme coast o' Snowdonia,Wales: Portmeirion.
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Been there and it always rains, the first time 3 days on the trot!!
(And outrageous prices for the Clough-Ellis's Portmeirion
china................................). Rather be in Pembrokeshire, a
kilometre from Barafundel or at Marloes beach.
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Jared
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 16:48 |
The shop in Porthmadog is called COB Records... and absolutely cool place on the edge of town near the Ffestiniog Railway, where I have passed many an interesting hour....and I mean that... you simply cannot do the shop justice in less than 2 hours!!
In your Welsh hunt, don't forget good ol' John Dexter Jones, lead singer with 'Jump'.... he's from Bangor and their guitarist is from the valleys somewhere... Pontypridd, I think.
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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frenchie
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 19:39 |
has anyone heard mwng by super furry animals? a low budget yet incredible record written entirely in welsh. 
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Paco Fox
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Posted: May 24 2005 at 03:11 |
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I love the Pererin album 'Haul...'. Any clue of how getting the other two?. And please, I kindly request you don't use phonetic or whatever writting in this forum. There are many non-english speakers here, and these things can be annoying.
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wallace
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Posted: May 24 2005 at 08:43 |
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Ah tertally agree. Th'abyoose o' King's Engerlish is summart arfool arund here!
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Tae th'point o' PERERIN:
Symphonic an' Doug Larson (US) will stock/mebbe alreedy 'av "Teithgan".
Guersson Records is based oot o' Spain so mebbe ye kens the whole shady story aybit dis Pererin reisser gaff.
Dis be 'ow Wallace unnerstauns it:
Guersson ha' rights tae "Haul..." licensed to his company direct frae Arfon Wyn of the band. Accordin' tae Guerssen , him findit oot tae hissen astonishment tha Akarma ha' alreedy releas'd Haul an' stock'd their warehouse -wivoot legal permission frae band. At dis juncture, since Arkarma is so reelatively large comparit tae Guerssen, Guerssen Records decid'd NOT tae reissuer "Haul". But dems will/are doin' "Teithgan" (an' mebbe third lp atta later date.)
Iffin yer wants th'whole long tale straight from Mr. Guersson, gie Wallace a private message an' ah will supply yew wiv th'link.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 24 2005 at 09:57 |
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My most prog album from a welshman would be John Cale's Church Of Anthrax in collaboration with minimalist compser Terry Riley. Astounding stuff but the cream of the crop there is the short sung number lost among the complicated longer tracks .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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