Do you think there is a true prog album..

where every song is under five minutes?

Each song has to be it's own entity, not like the Snowgoose where all the tracks (except two i think, but give me a break here i am just giving an example) are all part of one concept all working together?

and what is a true prog album ?  for now let's just consider it an album where most people wouldn't argue about it

I picked five minutes because that would make for a long pop song i guess

curious about this i guess, right now i am listening to Soft Machines Volume II for the first time, every track is under 5 minutes, but my opinion isnt valid because, give me a break it's my first listen

Aaron

Edited by Aaron

Tales from topographic ocean, maybe ?
Damn, so close !!!

Oh nets, I was going to mention GG octopus. I did'nt remember the last one was a beat longer, but what a great album indeed ! I think JT songs from the woods is also close but again one or two songs are a beat longer.

Anyway, what an odd way to judge an album.

omri,

i am not judging the album on song length, but often prog rock is defined as having longer songs, so i was just wondering if a full-blown prog album can be pulled off with all songs shorter than 5 minutes

Aaron

Almost... Beefheart - TMR

1. Frowland (1:39)
2. The dust blows forward'n the dust blows back (1:53)
3. Dachau blues (2:21)
4. Ella guru (2:23)
5. Hair:Pie bake 1 (4:57)
6. Moonlight on vermont (3:55)
7. Pachuco cadaver (4:37)
8. Bills corpse (1:47)
9. Sweet sweet bulbs (2:17)
10. Neon meate dream of a octafish (2:25)
11. China pig (3:56)
12. My human gets me blues (2:42)
13. Dali's car (1:25)
14. Hair pie: Bake 2 (2:23)
15. Pena (2:31)
16. Well (2:05)
17. When big Joan sets up (5:19)
18. Fallin' ditch (2:03)
19. Sugar 'n spikes (2:29)
20. Ant man bee (3:55)
21. Orange claw hammer (3:35)
22. Wild life (3:07)
23. She's too much for my mirror (1:42)
24. Hobo chang ba (2:01)

But Decals... classifies!!!

1. Lick My Decals Off, Baby (2:38)
2. Doctor Dark (2:45)
3. I Love You, You Big Dummy (2:53)
4. Peon (2:23)
5. Bellerin' Plain (3:35)
6. Woe-Is-Uh-Me-Bop (2:04)
7. Japan In a Dishpan (3:00)
8. I Wanna Find A Woman That'll Hold My Big Toe Till I Have To Go (1:54)
9. Petrified Forest (1:41)
10. One Red Rose That I Mean (1:54)
11. The Buggy Boogie Woogie (2:18)
12. The Smithsonian Institute Blues (Or The Big Dig) (2:10)
13. Space-Age Couple (2:33)
14. The Clouds Are Full of Wine (Not Whiskey or Rye) (2:47)
15. Flash Gordon's Ape (4:15)
25. The blimp (mousetrapreplica) (2:04)
26. Steal softly thru snow (2:13)
27. Old fart at play (1:54)
28. Veteran's day poppy (4:30)

Edited by Joren

ELP: Tarkus

Track listing
1. Eruption (2:44)
2. Stones Of Years (3:44)
3. Iconoclast (1:16)
4. Mass (3:12)
5. Manticore (1:52)
6. Battlefield (3:51)
7. Aquatarkus (4:04)
8. Jeremy Bender (1:51)
9. Bitches Crystal (3:58)
10. The Only Way (Hymn)(3:49)
Toccata in F and Prelude VI (themes used in intro and bridge only)composed by: Bach
11. Infinite Space (Conclusion)(3:20)
12. A Time And A Place (3:02)
13. Are You Ready Eddy? (2:10)

Total ime: 38:56

richardh wrote: Muse - Absolution This is a prog album IMO.Without checking I'm sure all the songs are under 5 minutes in length.

 

I agree on the suggestion that this is prog. But... Butterflies and hurricanes clocks in at 5:01....

richardh wrote: ELP - Tarkus The six tracks that make up the suite are seperately listed on the album cover and easily identifiable.(They are not parts 1 -6)

But all the CD releases have them as one track and you're more than happy to talk about it as one song on any "best epic" threads going aren't you?

Also, this talk of it being a "suite"... classical suites are still split by clearly defined pauses and changes in tempo, etc. A prog epic with a few subheadings/different melodies will often be referred to as a "suite" when it wouldn't really be right to call it so...

I think this is a case of ELP fans having their cake and well and truly eating it.

I don't know.. I've got a cd of Tarkus right here in front of me.. and its not released as one track... what chu looking at??

threefates wrote: I don't know.. I've got a cd of Tarkus right here in front of me.. and its not released as one track... what chu looking at??

The 2001 Sanctury Records remaster with "extensive liner notes".

What chu looking at?