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kingman 
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 Posted: May 18 2005 at 17:13 |
I'd like to throw the band "Nektar" in the list. Maybe not one of the greatest progressive bands ever, but certainly their early works such as "Journey . . ." and "Remember . . ." are quite good.
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Barbarian
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:06 |
 Syzygy wrote:
Barbarian wrote:
frenchie wrote:
look how skinny the guy in the middle is (i cant tell them apart but i know greg lake is on the right), it looks like he is sucking it all in, you can see his ribcage! |
That so called skinny guy in the middle is Tank man Carl Palmer..Hows about fit as a fiddle & would snap your neck in one swoop.
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Give it a rest, KE9 - and if you're going to set up any more alternate identities, try altering your font, not centering your text, using a spell check and using a non ELP related nickname.
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NON ELP RELATED NICKNAME?SO?
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Fragile
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:28 |
K9 must you be so offensive I really like the way you ELP people stick up for your band but you cannot force your views down others throats.As for being the best prog band get a life they were good but not in the same league as Yes  My favourite ELP moment is as a 16 year old in Blankenberg Belgium on school hols coming out of the pub and around ten of us singing and playing ' Knife Edge' all the way back to our digs.Yes,Elp were a great prog band, but not the best.
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threefates
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:49 |
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THIS IS ELP
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Fragile
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:52 |
You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one. 
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Fragile
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:07 |
It's the way I say it 3 Fates 
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:10 |
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ha ha a battle between Yes and ELP fans, I love it. The Genesis fanatics are a much mellower bunch!
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:24 |
Fragile wrote:
You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one. |
Mr Fragile
What bollox duth talketh
Yes were not always the best live band.I have many live recording of yes & most are really bad.You know the good/bad thing with ELP if anything that they are so good live you can find it hard to distinguish the live from the studio sometimes.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:54 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
Fragile wrote:
You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one. |
Mr Fragile
What bollox duth talketh
Yes were not always the best live band.I have many live recording of yes & most are really bad.You know the good/bad thing with ELP if anything that they are so good live you can find it hard to distinguish the live from the studio sometimes.
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Are you saying Welcome Back My Friends is superfluous! 
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Benighted
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:01 |
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I just bought ELP's first three. I am absolutely amazed by the drumming. Top notch.
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:02 |
I'll probably get shot for saying this......
I think Yes is one of those bands that is better on the albums than they are live. They are good live and can be great live but they rarely bring a dynamic to any given song that makes you prefer the live version of a song over a studio version. (talking real yes here - pre 90210). I know some of you will disagree. But, I am a person that loves live music and I still prefer Yes on the studio albums over the live stuff 99% of the time. They don't butcher the songs by any stretch, but they don't add much to them either.
On the other hand ELP is one of those bands that adds magic to the music on stage. Hoedown is ok, but rather stuffy on the album...but live WOOOO!! Tarkus just flat out kicks ass live. I could go on and on. Threefates will probably try to ban me from the site for saying this, but the only exception to this IMO is Greg Lake doing his ballads. I always wanted him to STFU and get on with the good stuff. I always felt it ruined the flow of the show. I like his ballads on the albums, just not live.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:05 |
JMCecil wrote:
I'll probably get shot for saying this......
I think Yes is one of those bands that is better on the albums than they are live. They are good live and can be great live but they rarely bring a dynamic to any given song that makes you prefer the live version of a song over a studio version. (talking real yes here - pre 90210). I know some of you will disagree. But, I am a person that loves live music and I still prefer Yes on the studio albums over the live stuff 99% of the time. They don't butcher the songs by any stretch, but they don't add much to them either.
On the other hand ELP is one of those bands that adds magic to the music on stage. Hoedown is ok, but rather stuffy on the album...but live WOOOO!! Tarkus just flat out kicks ass live. I could go on and on. Threefates will probably try to ban me from the site for saying this, but the only exception to this IMO is Greg Lake doing his ballads. I always wanted him to STFU and get on with the good stuff. I always felt it ruined the flow of the show. I like his ballads on the albums, just not live.
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They are both great live bands (no ly syncing as far as i know), but in the beggining, ELP had more energy and put on a better show, but IMO Yessongs is better than Welcome Back.
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:07 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
Fragile wrote:
You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one. |
Mr Fragile
What bollox duth talketh
Yes were not always the best live band.I have many live recording of yes & most are really bad.You know the good/bad thing with ELP if anything that they are so good live you can find it hard to distinguish the live from the studio sometimes.
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Are you saying Welcome Back My Friends is superfluous!
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CLARIFY MASTER
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:11 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
They are both great live bands (no ly syncing as far as i know), but in the beggining, ELP had more energy and put on a better show, but IMO Yessongs is better than Welcome Back. |
Yeah, it's hard to explain really. I wasn't trying to trash Yes in the least. I've seen them many times and enjoyed every show until Union. If you tried to pin me down I would even say that they are my favorite band. Yes - > Drama $$$$
But there was something totaly electric when ELP used to play. I remember the first time I heard Fanfare for the Common Man live. The timp hits followed by the horns going off is like soul destroying good in person.
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:16 |
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I'm probably going more from experiences at the concerts than the live albums. The live Yes recordings from the 70s have never done them justice. I don't know if it was playing in the round, really crappy mobile recording setups or what, but they sounded 1000x better in person than YesSongs and YesShows and the DVDs/Tapes lead one to believe.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 23:27 |
JMCecil wrote:
I'm probably going more from experiences at the concerts than the live albums. The live Yes recordings from the 70s have never done them justice. I don't know if it was playing in the round, really crappy mobile recording setups or what, but they sounded 1000x better in person than YesSongs and YesShows and the DVDs/Tapes lead one to believe. |
even their live records from 90's-00's are better now with new technology. I love my live at the house of blues DVD. Howe is a beast on that.
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 23:38 |
You know the big problem with YES & GENESIS is there studio recording & live mobile equipment was so bad it toTaly destroyed them for me.In always....I cannot listern to any of the two bands on a regular basis because of this.
MY WISH FOR THE NEW YEAR:
GENESIS RE-RECORD:
TRESPASS,NURSERY CRYME,FOXTROT,SELING MY ARSE FOR A FIVER,LAMBS,TRICK OF & WIND,WUTHERING
YES RE-RECORD:
THE YES ALBUM,FRAGILE,CLOSE TO THE EDGE,TOPOGRAPHICS & RELAYER
ELP RE-RECORD:
ELP,TARKUS,TRILOGY & BSS
ON SACD PLEASE....
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The Hemulen
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 03:30 |
JMCecil wrote:
I'll probably get shot for saying this......
I think Yes is one of those bands that is better on the albums than
they are live. They are good live and can be great live but they
rarely bring a dynamic to any given song that makes you prefer the live
version of a song over a studio version. (talking real yes here - pre
90210). I know some of you will disagree. But, I am a
person that loves live music and I still prefer Yes on the studio
albums over the live stuff 99% of the time. They don't butcher
the songs by any stretch, but they don't add much to them either. |
On the whole, I'd agree with you. Whenever I hear Steve Howe staggering
his way seemingly inexpertly through the opening of Close to the Edge I
shudder. However, on the Yes Symphonic DVD they play Ritual - a song
I've never liked all that much for numerous reasons - and they really
transform it into something special. But yes, their live work is rarely
an improvement on the studio work.
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MorgothSunshine
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:35 |
Emerson Lake & Palmer are absolutely overrated! Here seams that only ELP and Yes are considered for the best prog band...i think you're missing a lot of othere great bands!
Just for example you're talking about a prog trio (elp) and what about Quatermass??? Probably they were even more talented than ELP, surely more inspired!..but seems that no one cares.
ELP are Overrated: great musicians but quiet uninspired and emotionless!!!
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 05:03 |
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HAHAHAH........ but you english dudes are good about producing music now, right?
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