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Spartacus
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Posted: March 01 2005 at 21:07 |
This may be the hardest question to answer. 70s German prog is very underrated. This country has produced the most variety of sounds I have ever heard in prog. While most Enlish bands of the 70s were fascinated with symphonic, the Germans were trying all types of new styles.
We have a list with Can, Nektar, Popul Vuh, Tangerine Dream, Ashra, and Triumvirat. What country produced more varying styles than Germany in the 70s?
My vote goes not to the best but one of my all time favs, Triumvirat- Spartacus
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Emperor
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 08:23 |
kniprekcor wrote:
where's eloy ?!
for me it's eloy's ocean .
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Ya, wer ist Eloy????
Ich bin fur Eloy Silent Cries & Mighty Echoes...
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Man Erg
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 09:49 |
Walter Wegmuller - Tarot
I hear something new everytime I play this massive kosmische opus.
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 02 2005 at 10:31 |
Given these choices I would have to go with Kan Guru although my
favourite Guru Guru album has to be Dance Of The Flames with incredible
Persian born guitarist Houschang Nejadepour. Grobschnitt`s Solar Music
Live is certainly one of the most unusual prog albums ever ( I was at
the show in Manheim ). Jane is one of my all time faves Together,
III, Fire Water Earth & Air, Here We Are and Live At Home are great
albums. I also should add Eiliff, Neu!, Octopus , Novalis, Pell Mell,
Kin Ping Meh, Hoelderlin, Floh de Cologne, Frumpy, The first three
Triumvirat albums before they made the atrocious a La Carte and
Pompeii, Amon Duul up to Made In Germany, certain Eloy albums, the
first three Nektar albums. Whoa! I could go on. I collected so much
Krautrock after discovering it in the early seventies that I don`t even
know what German albums lurk inn the dark recesses of my album
collection but these are the ones I listen to the most. I just bought
ramstein`s Reise Reise although I guess it isn`t exactly prog. The
video for Keine Lust made me buy it. Even if you`re not a fan of this
kind of heavy music try and check out the video it`s totally hillarious.
Edited by Vibrationbaby
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Trotsky
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 03:28 |
Amon Duul II's Tanz der lemminge takes the prize
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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BaldJean
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:17 |
our collection is full of Krautrock too, some very obscure bands among them (ever heard of Limbus 4?) some albums are real crap , but Krautrock is definitely one of the wildest and most experimental genrés of prog, and of course some experiments don't work. also Rolf Ulrich Kaiser of the "Kosmische Kuriere" label is/was one of those producers who want/wanted to make a fast buck. he hyped a lot of bands that were not worth it or published material the artists did not want to be published (the albums of the Cosmic Jokers, for example, were never meant to be published; Kaiser ripped off the musicians here. in a strange way one has to thank him for that though, since at least the self-titled album and "Galactic Supermarket" of the Cosmic Jokers are real gems).
Nektar is of course not Krautrock. the musicans are British and just happen to have lived in Germany for a while. and I always wonder why "Remember the Future" is their most popular album. the recurring weak chorus (dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah "Remeeeeeeeeembeeeeeer the Fuuuuuutuuuuuure" dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah) ruins the album for me
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Bilek
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:29 |
^^ now Nektar started to make sense...
Voted for TD (albeit my personal favorite is Cyclone, Force comes close behind), but Amon Düül II is very worthy as well... I would vote for another Can album, Future Days or Ege Bamyasi for instance...
Many missing things in the list, not to mention Eloy.
Hail Krautrock
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Bilek
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:34 |
Walter Wegmüller is added to Discography BTW. I didn't hear it, but the line-up is very promising... (Schulze must have been listed on keyboards, not drums IMHO) Every krautrock fan should check it. Wish I could find it somewhere!
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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BaldJean
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 08:05 |
beware of Walter Wegmüller! he is one of the hype-cases of Krautrock and his Tarot record is, along with "Gille's Zeitschiff", probably the worst record ever that was produced by Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser. of course that's my personal opinion only, but it is the opinion of a Krautrock-fan.
Schulze started out as a drummer, by the way. he plays drums on Tangerine Dream's "Electronic Meditation" and also on Ash Ra Tempel's self-titled first and on "Join Inn"
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 05:53 |
Since I saw no Grobschnitt (live Solar Music or the debut ) I went for Yatha siddra: flawless.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 06:54 |
Didn't find my favourites... I don't have very deep knowlegde of this area though, but I like very much TD's "Rubycon", RUFUS ZUPHALL's "Weiss Der Teufel" and the early live recordings of ASH RA TEMPEL
Nearly forgot "Phallus Dei" by AMON DÜÜL II!
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The Prognaut
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Posted: August 11 2005 at 18:30 |
This is outraegous! Can't believe you left Grobschnitt out of this poll...
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Ironing Mike
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:24 |
... or Faust !?!
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It's a rainy day, sunshine girl
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Jeremy Bender
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:25 |
Tangerine Dream-Stratosfear
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pedro roqueiro
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:28 |
I voted for Tago Mago, because the Nektar album, which I think is the best of all mentioned in the list is an album from a british band. But I miss albums of Eloy and Grobschnitt.i
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The Prognaut
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 17:53 |
pedro roqueiro wrote:
But I miss albums of Eloy and Grobschnitt.i |
I second that!!!
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 18:16 |
Stratosfear
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oliverstoned
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 07:27 |
Good thread
A few essentials missing
Ag free/Last
Popol vuh/Das hohelied...
Deuter/AUM
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Logos
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 07:57 |
TANGERINE DREAM
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Ricochet
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Posted: August 19 2005 at 07:58 |
TANGERINE DREAM
&nbs p; &
KLAUS SCHULZE
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