Progressive Punk?

Simply put, art punk is to punk as prog rock is to rock. Although the vast majority even of art punk bands aren't so inventive as first wave prog, I still like a fair bit. Nomeansno are an interesting listen (funky/jazz punk, although some of their material veers more toward straight up punk). Television have an original sound; although not progressive in a traditional sense, it tends to wander a bit (17 verses in a song?). People have mentioned the Cardiacs - like The Mars Volta they embrace prog in a more "traditional" sense. Ruins mix zeuhl with punk on their latest album, and even their earlier stuff is fairly original.

Math rock is more akin to punk than anything else, and if you're into odd time signatures, you'll find plenty there - there was a thread about this some time ago.

Inferno wrote: Coheed and Cambria could be Considered as a "ProgPunk" With a Emo feel in it. Thrice too could be considered a "ProgPunk" Band. They have a lot of technical riff in their music and use a awful lot the 5/4 time signature Still, it's a good band!

Thrice and COCa both can suck my arse.

Poxx wrote: Borealis wrote: What about Instrumental Rap?  Hmm, there exists at least one (almost entirely)instrumental hip-hop track: Buckethead - Mausoleum Door.

Also Atmosphere's instrumental album... Its actually called that im pretty sure.

If Green Day is what you think of as punk, of course you're not going to be impressed- they're a pop band with some 4th generation punk influence. As for simplicity...Eno? Kraftwerk? Fripp? Doesn't get more simple than that, but they managed to work in the texture quite well. There's a lot more to musical expression than overt instrumental virtuosity.

BTW: I'm glad someone mentioned Nomeansno.

Souxsie & the Banshees:

Check out their albums Hyeana and Tinderbox. Definite prog elements on both. Brilliant albums from a rarely discussed band. Their 70's output was closer to raw ounk, but had elements of Curved Air. Souxsie was a big fan.

KIlling Joke:

Their albums 'Brighter than a thousand suns' and 'Outside the gate' in particular. The latter is arguably a prog rock album, and nothing to do with punk.

PIL:

The album 'Happy' which is sadly deleted now, had a very prog feel, especially the tracks 'Seattle' and 'Save me' Lydons fave band of all time was VDGG.