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    Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:59

From Wikipedia:

Diagnostic criteria (PCL-R test)

In contemporary research and clinical practice, APD is most commonly assessed with the Hare Psychopathy Checklist- Revised (PCL-R), which is a clinical rating scale with 20 items. Each of the items in the PCL-R is scored on a three-point scale according to specific criteria through file information and a semi-structured interview. The items are as follows:

Interpersonal dimension

  • Glibness/superficial charm
  • Grandiose sense of self-worth
  • Pathological lying
  • Conning/manipulative
  • Lack of remorse or guilt
  • Shallow affect
  • Callous/lack of empathy
  • Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Affective dimension

  • Need for stimulation/-proneness to boredom
  • Parasitic lifestyle
  • Poor behavioral controls
  • Early behavioral problems
  • Lack of realistic, long-term goals
  • Impulsivity
  • Irresponsibility
  • Juvenile delinquency
  • Revocation of conditional release

My parents are asking me to seek counseling to get to the bottom of this. Since I'm 19, they can't force me; but I should probably humor them. I exhibit all of the above tendencies, so I am quite concerned myself. I don't know what to do. Is there a cure for psychopathy? Or is my future full of nothing but pain and crime for certain? This is not a joke. I am serious as possible.
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:37

The problem with self-diagnoses is that we have "symptons" and try to get a match for them. This can lead to hypocondria and a morbid fascination with all things medical.
Most of the "criteria" detailed above could apply to many people your age.
In the 1950's when the "teenager" came to more prominence some psychologists actually believed that all youths were exhibiting some kind of mass-hysteria and were a danger to modern society.ConfusedI blame ElvisLOL

Do not worry CP-your behaviour is probably normal.All parents believe that their teenage offspring are monsters.

Doctor Reed suggests that you take frequent cold showers and refrain from masturbation.Wink

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 16:13
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 16:42
This would all  describe me aswell, though I'm not a pathological liar, infact, I never lie, so I should be fine
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 16:49

That, and lose the fratricidal/suicidal avatar....Stern Smile

(and the morbid  idolatry of KC!) Wink

Seriously, though, a history of severe bedwetting, compulsively lighting fires, and hurting animals is also a warning sign.

Chances are though, as Dr. Reed's Lover advised, you are just dealing with typical teenage angst, as you resist the transition to the adult world of work and responsibilites -- very normal and understandable! Smile

Still, if you are genuinely concerned, seeking professional help won't do any harm, and will likely put your mind at rest on these matters.Ermm

All the best!
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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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If you're seriously concerned about becoming a murderous psychopath, the best route is probably suicide. That will ensure nobody else suffers.
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 17:28

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

If you're seriously concerned about becoming a murderous psychopath, the best route is probably suicide. That will ensure nobody else suffers.

UnhappyAhhhhh.....

ShockedCan't I just blow away a mere dozen or two innocent sheep first, Dr. Lee? Stern Smile

I have all this ammo....Confused
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 17:33

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

If you're seriously concerned about becoming a murderous psychopath, the best route is probably suicide. That will ensure nobody else suffers.

I'm serious about suicide......would Dr Lee suggest I become a murderous psychopath first?Ermm

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Hey, if someone had given such good advice to Dahmer or Gein...

plus, I'm not inclined to take anything CP says without a huge grain of salt, as per his past changes of heart...
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A psychopath!!...no you're not!! That's just crazy talk.
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Welcome to being a teenager...if your already in college you probably have two years to go and have some anxiety over what is expected of you after you graduate.

If your not in college, consider going...that way you can develop the anxiety...just kidding. 

Actually you sound pretty much like anyone your age. Don't take those exams too seriously, a lot of self analysis tests are heavily skewed vis a vis your current state of mind.

 
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Besides, being a psychopath doesn't mean that you'd be out there murdering people. Although psychopaths do have a higher tendency to become such monsters.

If you're facing troubles defining what's right and what's wrong, there is quite nothing anyone can do for you. Then you just better make sure that you'd never be in a position where you could calculate that murdering someone would do you good.

Don't worry. As Bobby McFerrin sang: "It will soon pass, whatever it is." One way or another.

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I had a Hammer chucked at me by a Nutter luckily it missed
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Well done CP,you've achieved what nobody else could do!

Send me a flaming Pm then run to maani when I respond in kind,.Thanks very much.I needed that.

I've only ever tried to help you and even thought someone else was using your account,hence the nasty pm.

I dont deserve this.



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as long as you keep those stats off your dating profiles and resume's i'm sure you will be fine, we're all psychos here, name 1 psycho who isn't involved with prog? when we have people like roger waters and master fripp in our world
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You're not that D-FENS guy from Falling Down?
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There are definitely exceptions, but in general psychopaths don't know they're psychopathic. I've got psychological problems too, and I'm your age - you'll be surprised how many people do.

Going to a psychologist would be a wise choice I think - it will set your mind at rest and help you get a perspective. Believe me, I went to one and it REALLY helped.

One thing: don't believe your own hype...don't keep saying "Oh no, I'm a psycho" and so on, because it will get you nowhere and you're just kidding yourself.
And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Gentle Giant's In a glasshouse is a nice record about the Psyche in general,since I first heard it I loved the lyrics and I often took it  as my personal Yi Ging. So here is one of my favourite tracks, may it light a candle on your way :

Way of Life

Lead vocals: Derek 

You'll find an answer, You've got to believe in your own way
of life.
So you'll have to find an answer, You'll have to find a way,
Try to find, Try to find.

You'll try to question her, Does she believe in the choice of
your life.
So you have to try to ask her, when you are away, left
behind, out of mind; away.

And in the end you discover, examine, you have to decide if
there is an answer, if there is a way, Let her find piece of
mind.

And another day, all alone, think there is away at home.
Every other may, have their own, way of life that is their
own.
And your wandering only a game to realise no joy your
own.

And another day, all alone, choice of life is not your own.

You'll try to question her, Does she believe in the way of
your life.
So you have to try to ask her, You'll have to find a way, left
behind, out of mind; away.
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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2005 at 12:08

Originally posted by Rob The Good Rob The Good wrote:

There are definitely exceptions, but in general psychopaths don't know they're psychopathic. I've got psychological problems too, and I'm your age - you'll be surprised how many people do.

Going to a psychologist would be a wise choice I think - it will set your mind at rest and help you get a perspective. Believe me, I went to one and it REALLY helped.

One thing: don't believe your own hype...don't keep saying "Oh no, I'm a psycho" and so on, because it will get you nowhere and you're just kidding yourself.

I agree with you. Very good advice!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 01:27
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

You're not that D-FENS guy from Falling Down?

No. But funny you mention him. I often feel vindictive and frustrated as he. That movie is depressing BTW. It made me scared of damn near everyone in the world. I thought D-FENS could be living next door after I saw that movie.



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