Leftfield in the Archives

I'm all in favour of proggers listening to creative electronica, but sorry lads - it's a seperate genre.

I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks they should not be in the archives. I would really like someone to give me some constructive reasons why Leftfield should be here?

Thanks Mike and TP for your comments

Logos wrote: Yep - the modern day electronica scene has A LOT of interesting and progressive artists, and one might say Leftfield is one of them, but they're just so far from prog rock they have no place on this site at all. We have a "progressive electronic" sub genre here on this site but IMO that should only be for the true electronic pioneers of the 70's , like TD, Schulze and Kraftwerk.

I agree - there are some brilliant advocates of modern day electronica. So far the Archives has "basically" ignored them. I believe that a new precedent is being set! Does this mean that groups like Faithless, The Chemical Brothers and GoldFrapp as well as individuals such as Paul Oakenfeld and Carl Cox all great exponents of this music genre, now qualify for PA?

I would like to know who approves the nomination and are the boundaries for acceptance into PA being discreetly expanded !!!

valravennz wrote: Logos wrote: Yep - the modern day electronica scene has A LOT of interesting and progressive artists, and one might say Leftfield is one of them, but they're just so far from prog rock they have no place on this site at all. We have a "progressive electronic" sub genre here on this site but IMO that should only be for the true electronic pioneers of the 70's , like TD, Schulze and Kraftwerk. I agree - there are some brilliant advocates of modern day electronica. So far the Archives has "basically" ignored them. I believe that a new precedent is being set! Does this mean that groups like Faithless, The Chemical Brothers and GoldFrapp as well as individuals such as Paul Oakenfeld and Carl Cox all great exponents of this music genre, now qualify for PA? I would like to know who approves the nomination and are the boundaries for acceptance into PA being discreetly expanded !!!

I don't think these are progressive. I posted some examples of modern electronic bands which I consider progressive (some borderline):

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9182

 

^ The bands in the thread that I posted are IMO not enough prog to be listed in the archives, but they're very innovative and cleverly fuse electronic music with traditional music & instruments. Maybe someday, we'll have a category for such music on this website.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: they're very innovative and cleverly fuse electronic music with traditional music & instruments

Isn't that exactly what Tangerine Dream do?

Logos wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: they're very innovative and cleverly fuse electronic music with traditional music & instruments Isn't that exactly what Tangerine Dream do?

Sure - I was referring to modern bands (1990 and upwards). I feel that the bands which I posted in my thread are as clever as the pioneers from the 70's, but they're not labeled "Progressive Electronic" because that genre seems to be confined to the 70's.

 

^I agree - the bands I listed belong somewhere else. Maybe a genre "Modern Progressive Electronica". The word "modern" in this context means that the music was created in a time where electronic music is commonplace. In the 70's, electronic music was something new - today it is nothing unusual. But the bands that I listed really test the boundaries of electronic music, AND combine it with traditional approaches. So in a way, they're similar to the 70's pioneers, but from an entirely different perspective.

Dear god - are the admins trying to make us guess where they'll next throw this thread. First to Bands and Albums, now it's up here again. Decide, will you!

I too was pretty shocked to see Leftfield here ... but who can draw the line between Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk and Vangelis and Jean-Michel Jarre and some of the last decade's most progressive dance-music innovators ... Goldie did a one track 60 minute album ... I think ... perhaps he's next?