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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 07:57 |
hotbelly wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I prefer Avantasia ... I don't like Kursch's vocals. I think they are even more an aquired taste than James LaBrie ... |
Avantasia! They are so bland and generic! How can they even compare to either D&W or BG?
To each his own though, don't mean to laugh at your tastes :)
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Feel free to laugh at me - I laugh at D&W and Iced Age.
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Minstrel X
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:47 |
Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone.
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Minstrel X: Burning down the gallery
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 19:26 |
Minstrel X wrote:
Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone. |
It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG.
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 20:35 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Minstrel X wrote:
Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone. |
It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG.
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Who cares? It kicks my ass
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Zarquino
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 16:23 |
To be exactly BG were speed metal at the very beginning then evoluted
into power and now they are...better! A night at the opera was not what
I was expecting to whe I heard they were comming with a new cd. But
well I like it. BG are great...let's see the new album with new
drummer...
D&W is not my band...they have really good songs but some others... :S
And FROM IE I like one or two songs, I dont use to like american power metal (well I love Kamelot (the singer is european) :D
Bye guys
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 16:31 |
King of Loss wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Minstrel X wrote:
Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone. |
It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG.
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Who cares? It kicks my ass
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I don't. I love it ... but I think that Nightfall in Middle-Earth is slightly better.
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goose
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:40 |
I'd say BG are by far the closest to prog out of any of the popular power metal groups I've heard. Doesn't stop them being incredibly cheesey though (OK, OK, I still like them. I guess there's a bit of D&D in me after all eh? )
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:53 |
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Reverie
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 07:54 |
Early BG i actually do dig, but the more recent stuff
I'm not really a fan of Hansi's vocals either, but i find them quite listenable on the early stuff. I don't understand al the fuss about A Night At The Opera. I've heard the entire thing at least twice and i find it to be one of the most boring albums i've ever heard.
Has anybody heard the old drummer's new band? I haven't heard a lot, but from what i have heard they sound exactly like BG.
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Raff
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:11 |
Being a Tolkien fan (of the serious, scholarly type, I hasten to add) I obviously know about BG, and many of my friends adore them. Unfortunately, I don't - I just managed to get halfway through Nightfall... before turning the CD player off in disgust. As to A Night at the Opera, I only got to the opening song, which was not bad but rather heavy going, with all those multilayered vocal harmonies and somewhat confused structure. Kursch's voice is one of the problems, but not the only one. I don't like Rhapsody either (though they're my fellow countrymen, but then I'm not patriotic at all). I'd very much rather listen to DT, even with LaBrie's vocals.
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:44 |
C'mon Rhapsody is not THAT bad... sure, they aren't prog but the first
2 cds are one of the best in Power Metal history... even with the
cheesy lyrics
Anyway BG... Nightfall in Middle Earth is a good album, haven't
listened A Night in the Opera so... I don't know what to think about
the new BG and now with their drummer gone.
And I like Hansi's voice more than Labrie's more agressive XD
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I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:51 |
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:03 |
Then we are 2 happy Rhapsody fans Bring the cheese!!
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I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:09 |
I have all their albums ... they're all good, and the first two are indeed the best. Dawn of Victory is also very good, Power of the Dragonflame is a bit weaker, and Symphony 2 is quite good, but here the cheese factor is like 10 times higher. Christopher Lee is quite ok, but the other narrator and the lyrics ...
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:15 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I have all their albums ... they're all good, and
the first two are indeed the best. Dawn of Victory is also very good,
Power of the Dragonflame is a bit weaker, and Symphony 2 is quite good,
but here the cheese factor is like 10 times higher. Christopher Lee is
quite ok, but the other narrator and the lyrics ... |
The other narrator made laugh it his screams "Oh, God!!! No!! It's happening!!!"
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I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:21 |
"And so the Order of the White Dragon decreed Khaas the hero of the middle lands. He and princess Lothen from the kingdom of the ancient waterfalls, together with Tharish, elven king of the caverns and myself, Iras Algor from Hor-Lad, would travel the path of incredible danger and great adventure. Dargor the shadowlord would lead us through the ancient underworld of Dar-Kunor. Finally the time had come to find the legendary seventh black book, that containing the worst of all the known prophecies"
"NAIRA... ORIEL...TARNA... Majestic winds of the northlands... protect our heroes from the deadly Naroth... cover their tracks with snow... Rage on with all your fury... NAIRA... TARNA... ORIEL-NIRNAAN..."
I wonder who invented all those words and names ... Tolkien was a linguist, the elven language and all the words and labels from the Silmarillion make sense. The words in the Rhapsody lyrics are just nonsense.
Like I said above: I like it. But I often find myself imagining how much better Rhapsody could be with sane lyrics and WITHOUT the italian accent ...
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:25 |
Yea, I agree. Rhapsody sounds so god-damn fun to listen to :)
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:31 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I wonder who invented all those words and
names ... Tolkien was a linguist, the elven language and all the words
and labels from the Silmarillion make sense. The words in the Rhapsody
lyrics are just nonsense.
Like I said above: I like it. But I often find myself imagining how
much better Rhapsody could be with sane lyrics and WITHOUT the italian
accent ...
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All come from the not-so sane mind of Luca Turilli! if you like more lyrics like those listen to his solo band
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I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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Zarquino
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 07:37 |
Reverie wrote:
Has anybody heard the old drummer's new band? I haven't heard a lot, but from what i have heard they sound exactly like BG. |
The group is savage cirvus, i've listened to the cd a couple of times.
Its not bad, but its not Blind Guardian, of course. Thomen Stauch is a
very good drummer, but it seems he doenst like the new direction o BG.
Saage Circus is more like BG in Imaginations on the other Side.
I like Rhapsody too. It's true that they're cheesy...ejem. Well I think
I like more the 2nd Guitar (Luca Turilli) lp that the lastrhapsody's.
Bye guys
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