Blind Guardian
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Topic: Blind Guardian
Posted By: 4stringer
Subject: Blind Guardian
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 19:20
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Hey everybody. I just wanted to let you all know that there's this german band called Blind Guardian. They started out as a power metal band but then turned to a more refined style that can be considered close to prog, especially the last two albums: Nightfall in middle Earth and A Night at the Opera. Since there are so many metal bands up in the archives I figured I might as well suggest y'all some more good stuff.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 19:29
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Ugh.......... Nightfall in Middle Earth really does not sound very Progressive, but A Night at the Opera, that's another story |
Posted By: 4stringer
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 19:32
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Sounds like I'm not the only one who knows about them. I'm relieved...:) It's weird how people proposed iced earth for the archives and forgot to even mention BG.... |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 20:10
Iced Earth is not Progressive, not even 1 percent Progressive. Jon Schaffer doesn't even know the difference between a D# and a B flat. |
4stringer wrote:Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 20:12
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I like Iced Earth...but they are not progressive.Neither is Blind Guardian. -------------  |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 20:49
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Listen carefully to A Night at the Opera then, sure its not Progressive Metal, but it is highly influenced by Progressive music. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 11:57
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I like Blind Guardian- but they're not progressive. MAYBE prog-metal, but not really. But one of the better Power Metal Bands- unlike Rhapsody. |
Posted By: 4stringer
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 13:40
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Let me point out that even though I'm Italian I find it really hard to consider Rhapsody prog. They have some 5 albums out and they all sound the same. A night at the opera on the other hand is truly progressive, although deeply rooted in heavy metal. There's even an epic. Maybe considering BG prog is too much. I still believe their last two albums will prove to be a great listen for most progressive metal fans. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:08
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IF Rhapsody is considered Prog, then Blind Guardian is Prog as well. Personally, I agree with the common opinion here that neither are prog (and that Rhapsody was included by "accident"). BTW: Do you know Demons & Wizards? It's like all the non prog ingredients of Blind Guardian and Iced Earth thrown together ... today I was in a mall and I noticed that they literally had that record piled up on the shelves. I guess they figure that it's just what World Of Warcraft fans would fancy ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: 4stringer
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:35
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Demons & Wizards are tight but DEFINITELY not prog. I dig'em but I bet they sound just like a bunch of noises to people used to Yes and BMS! It's power metal with medieval influences mixed with Schaffer's muscular rithmic guitar style. The lyrics are by Hansi Kursch and his distinct vocal style adds a lot to the compositions which musically are by the way almost entirely Jon's. Their new album "touched by the Crimson King" is strongly recommended to any metal fan. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:39
I prefer Avantasia ... I don't like Kursch's vocals. I think they are even more an aquired taste than James LaBrie ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: 4stringer
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:47
Do you have Live though? Cause Hansi kicks some serious a** on that one. He also writes 50% of the music the band puts out, so you see how essential he is to BG. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:48
You're preaching to the choir here ... I love Blind Guardian. But the SOUND of his voice annoys me. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: norbert88
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 14:50
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Blind Guardian is awesome. They are my favorite non-prog band. They used to be my favorite band before I found Dream Theater...along with many other bands since then.. norbert88 |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 15:40
He is perhaps one of those vocalists that you either love or hate like James Labrie, but I absolutely adore his voice, its just very melodic and just stunningly beautiful, not very good on the latest D & W, but if you ever listen to his voice on Fiddler and the Green[/ U] you'll know what I'm talking about... 
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Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 03:49
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They used to be my favorite at high school. They sound more like epic metal than prog. Their last 2 albums though have some progressive influences. Recomended for some good melodic metal.
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Posted By: Lane
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 13:40
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Blind Guardian rules! One of the more individual metal bands these days. Mildly prog influenced, but not al the time. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 23:33
Glad to see I'm not the only Blind Guardian fan here...
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 20:34
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Blind Guardian #1 metal band hard to get into but awsome esp. their DVD Hope to see them live |
Posted By: hotbelly
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 07:45
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Avantasia! To each his own though, don't mean to laugh at your tastes :) |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 07:57
Feel free to laugh at me - I laugh at D&W and Iced Age. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Minstrel X
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 15:47
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Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone. ------------- Minstrel X: Burning down the gallery |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 19:26
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It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 04 2005 at 20:35
Who cares? It kicks my ass |
Posted By: Zarquino
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 16:23
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To be exactly BG were speed metal at the very beginning then evoluted
into power and now they are...better! A night at the opera was not what
I was expecting to whe I heard they were comming with a new cd. But
well I like it. BG are great...let's see the new album with new
drummer... D&W is not my band...they have really good songs but some others... :S And FROM IE I like one or two songs, I dont use to like american power metal (well I love Kamelot (the singer is european) :D Bye guys ------------- There's nothing left to loose |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 16:31
I don't. I love it ... but I think that Nightfall in Middle-Earth is slightly better. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:40
I'd say BG are by far the closest to prog out of any of the popular power metal groups I've heard. Doesn't stop them being incredibly cheesey though  (OK, OK, I still like them. I guess there's a bit of D&D in me after all eh?  )
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 05:53
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Hey, at least they base their music upon a sane story (Silmarillion) rather than inventing cheesy stories about unicorns, magic dragons and emerald swords. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 07:54
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Early BG i actually do dig, but the more recent stuff I'm not really a fan of Hansi's vocals either, but i find them quite listenable on the early stuff. I don't understand al the fuss about A Night At The Opera. I've heard the entire thing at least twice and i find it to be one of the most boring albums i've ever heard. Has anybody heard the old drummer's new band? I haven't heard a lot, but from what i have heard they sound exactly like BG. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:11
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Being a Tolkien fan (of the serious, scholarly type, I hasten to add) I obviously know about BG, and many of my friends adore them. Unfortunately, I don't - I just managed to get halfway through Nightfall... before turning the CD player off in disgust. As to A Night at the Opera, I only got to the opening song, which was not bad but rather heavy going, with all those multilayered vocal harmonies and somewhat confused structure. Kursch's voice is one of the problems, but not the only one. I don't like Rhapsody either (though they're my fellow countrymen, but then I'm not patriotic at all). I'd very much rather listen to DT, even with LaBrie's vocals. |
Posted By: R.Darkmoon
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:44
C'mon Rhapsody is not THAT bad... sure, they aren't prog but the first 2 cds are one of the best in Power Metal history... even with the cheesy lyrics Anyway BG... Nightfall in Middle Earth is a good album, haven't listened A Night in the Opera so... I don't know what to think about the new BG and now with their drummer gone.  And I like Hansi's voice more than Labrie's  more agressive XD------------- I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:51
I like Rhapsody very much ... but I also admit that they're cheesy. I have no problem with liking cheese. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: R.Darkmoon
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:03
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Then we are 2 happy Rhapsody fans Bring the cheese!!
------------- I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:09
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I have all their albums ... they're all good, and the first two are indeed the best. Dawn of Victory is also very good, Power of the Dragonflame is a bit weaker, and Symphony 2 is quite good, but here the cheese factor is like 10 times higher. Christopher Lee is quite ok, but the other narrator and the lyrics ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: R.Darkmoon
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:15
The other narrator made laugh it his screams "Oh, God!!! No!! It's happening!!!"------------- I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:21
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"And so the Order of the White Dragon decreed Khaas the hero of the middle lands. He and princess Lothen from the kingdom of the ancient waterfalls,
"NAIRA... ORIEL...TARNA...
I wonder who invented all those words and names ... Tolkien was a linguist, the elven language and all the words and labels from the Silmarillion make sense. The words in the Rhapsody lyrics are just nonsense. Like I said above: I like it. But I often find myself imagining how much better Rhapsody could be with sane lyrics and WITHOUT the italian accent ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:25
| Yea, I agree. Rhapsody sounds so god-damn fun to listen to :) |
Posted By: R.Darkmoon
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:31
All come from the not-so sane mind of Luca Turilli! if you like more lyrics like those listen to his solo band ------------- I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath... |
Posted By: Zarquino
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 07:37
The group is savage cirvus, i've listened to the cd a couple of times. Its not bad, but its not Blind Guardian, of course. Thomen Stauch is a very good drummer, but it seems he doenst like the new direction o BG. Saage Circus is more like BG in Imaginations on the other Side. I like Rhapsody too. It's true that they're cheesy...ejem. Well I think I like more the 2nd Guitar (Luca Turilli) lp that the lastrhapsody's. Bye guys ------------- There's nothing left to loose |