Death

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 No matter how you look at it - Death was a grandfather of death metal/extreme music. There wouldn't be any Opeth if there wasn't any Death.

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I seriously doubt that. I don't see many similarities - neither of them invented growling. I'd say that Opeth are much more influenced by Camel than Death.

BTW: I voted no - Death are a highly complex band, but I think they are too firmly rooted in the metal realm. But I can see why someone would consider them prog ... of all the extremely complex Death/Thrash bands out there, Death are one of the few where I can see that possibility. 

Manunkind wrote: I've said it once and I'll say it again - definitely progressive (and AWESOME), but certainly not prog.

EXACTLY. And Death is actually the band that revolitioned Death Metal, and they should stay there, in their realms, like MikeInRegalia said.

Actually, Symbolic and human are some of it's best albums, but I really think you are forgeting "Individual Thought Patterns", and, putting tastes aside, I think that album has better drums than symbolic, even though both are played by Gene Hoglan, of course. .

Manunkind wrote: Coya wrote: Manunkind wrote: I've said it once and I'll say it again - definitely progressive (and AWESOME), but certainly not prog.  EXACTLY. And Death is actually the band that revolitioned Death Metal, and they should stay there, in their realms, like MikeInRegalia said. Actually, Symbolic and human are some of it's best albums, but I really think you are forgeting "Individual Thought Patterns", and, putting tastes aside, I think that album has better drums than symbolic, even though both are played by Gene Hoglan, of course. . ... but even Hoglan's inventive and rock-solid drumming IMO pales a little in comparison with Richard Christie on "The Sound of Perseverance". Melody is the key word here.

I don't think he is actually "better", they are both really good drumers, and both are excelent albums, but the atmospheres are totally different. SoP gives you a more heavy atmosphere (just the fact that they did a Painkiller cover can tell you that),and like you said, the melody is very important, but ITP is more experimental I think. Maybe it's just a matter of tastes.

I prefer 60's and 70's material, but I like this band still very much. Their vocalstyle don't bother me, I like also classic opera, and I can enjoy Peter Hammils singing.

Crash the gates of prejudice for your own sake!

Useful_Idiot wrote: I would support the addition of Death, but let's face it.  If they were to be added, we would all be beaten senseless by a hoard of angry 70s progheads furious at the prospect of a metal band called Death being listed on here.  Their albums from Human (which even features Paul Masvidal and Sean Reinert from Cynic) onwards are very progressive, I'd say the only thing those albums really share in common with death metal is the growled vocals.

Well said. I don't consider them prog, but if they were included I definitely wouldn't make a racket about it.

Pseud0 wrote: Death's Human album is an absolute masterpiece - great band.  All the albums are very good.  I have all of them besides Scream bloody gore (the first one)

I think Human is very good but that their best album is Sound of Perseverance.

f**k NO