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James Lee
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 19:59 |
My entire CD and vinyl collection:
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tuxon
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 20:02 |
James Lee wrote:
My entire CD and vinyl collection:
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That's a nice collection James, beats mine
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 20:15 |
yu dotn think he has them backed up ?
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James Lee
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 20:15 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
James Lee wrote:
My entire CD and vinyl collection:
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So if i zap 240Volts through this forum to you..your f**ked
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Hmm, I'd better back everything up before you find out how much metal is in my collection...
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 04:26 |
oliverstoned wrote:
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But my understanding is that music for vinyl is "compressed" Because vinyl cant handle the sonic range that CD does. |
It's exactly the contrary |
No its not. I know what I read!
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 04:48 |
We have to explain you all from the beggining...
Too hard...
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 04:51 |
In your opinion, which wons?
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 04:54 |
Hmmm CD's it is then????????, I got to have a CD or LP in my hand so that's when I know I got music.
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 05:37 |
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We have to explain you all from the beggining...
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Too Hard...like your head..its full of concrete or something far more revolting. Theres no point in continuing this until I find the article I read, Meanwhile go and listen to your compressed music.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 06:08 |
I think Cert,can help you with this one,although he wouldnt thank me for inviting him into this surreal discussion.
Check out his posts in the Vinyl vs CD thread in the "HiFi,Speakers and Vinyl" section of this forum area.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:51 |
Snow Dog wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
We have to explain you all from the beggining... Too hard... |
Too Hard...like your head..its full of concrete or something far more revolting. Theres no point in continuing this until I find the article I read, Meanwhile go and listen to your compressed music. |
Compressed music?!!!!!!!!!!!
What's Mp3 in your opinion?
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 09:55 |
when i produce music in my studio i can export it to mp3 choosing the sample rate i want....this directly controls the amount of the compression....i can make it exactly as it should sound(no diff between the mp3 and the way it sounds when i mixed it) ....or i can really really compress it and make it sound like i was playing it underwater(a really cool effect)
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 12:22 |
It might not sound different but it is!
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 13:24 |
well isnt that what the discussion is about goose? what it "sounds" like?
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:01 |
Not the very last bit, and I'm not saying don't use mp3, by any means. The point is that since whenever you encode mp3 you lose information, that means that it will never be able to replicate the original perfectly. It might come very very close and be indistinguishable on nearly every sample, but there will always be at least one piece of music that sounds audibly different (likewise if you use lossless compression, there will always be a file which gets larger instead of smaller), and some people (I'm sure oliverstoned is one of them) with high end equipment can differentiate even top bitrate encodings of "normal" songs.
The reason I doubt mp3 is the format of the future is that there are at least two formats which are far more efficient. While ogg's been around longer, I suspect if any of today's codecs catch on it'll be AAC, simply because Apple have such a share in the market.
But hey, people can use whatever they like - if at some point I have any money I'll look into DVD-A (looks like I'll have to buy all my favourite albums again... ), and for that reason I'm not buying any King Crimson CDs since I think they're being reissued in not too long, although Red is really really tempting me..!
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:07 |
Forget DVD-A and SACD.
Last KC HDCD reissues are the best versions available under numeric form.
I consider "Lark's tongue" hdcd reissue to be the best sounding 70's prog CD, followed by Caravan Deram reissues.
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:14 |
you say they are more efficient....are these digital formats other than mp3 close to the quality of analog stuff ? what about .wav files that are not compressed half as much as mp3?
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:14 |
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Forget DVD-A and SACD.
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I know the issues with SACD, but surely DVD-A is far better sounding than CD? It's basically the same idea as CD (i.e. PCM audio) but with far higher sampling rates/bit depth (and more channels, but that's by the way), isn't it?
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 15:26 |
Maybe, it will be better when the technology will be improved, but for the moment, it doesn't work.
So don't bother with DVD-A, you'll have a better sound with on of those good english "little" CD player above,
i swear!
Don't me fooled my the marketing and advertisement!
They are lying on these new supports, telling it's better, like they were lying about the CD being better then the vynil.
On the other hand, the Blue ray disc, which will replaces
the DVD will offers a greatest video quality,cause it contains much more informations.
But for sound...forget!
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