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oliverstoned 
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 Posted: April 27 2005 at 05:46 |
 Snow Dog wrote:
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Quote <FONT size=7>" VAN HALEN, IRON MAIDEN, METALLICA!!!!!" |
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Sad fellow
Find yourself a metal forum and let us talk about good music...
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 05:49 |
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I reccomend that if you dont like discussions about prog metal or any sub genre then dont join in them. Leave them for those who do follow the subgenres. A lot of younger contributors like the prog metal scene. I dont, but I'm middle aged. So, if you want prog to be celebrated into the future, you will have to accept that artists like DreamTheater and RADIOHEAD!!! are pretty much where the genre is nowadays, especially from a younger listerners perspective.
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Disagree. Prog influences will still exists, but not in the "prog metal" scene which is not prog at all, but in others genres, like jazz, fusion, or even mainstream (but not Radiohead  ).
Virtually all bands which call themselves prog today are everything but prog...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 06:06 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Quote <FONT size=7>" VAN HALEN, IRON MAIDEN, METALLICA!!!!!" |
And an encore
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Sad fellow
Find yourself a metal forum and let us talk about good music... |
I am talking about good music sadder fellow! I'm happy with this forum thanks I know lets talk about the music you personally like, that must be the best music in the world.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 06:09 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I reccomend that if you dont like discussions about prog metal or any sub genre then dont join in them. Leave them for those who do follow the subgenres. A lot of younger contributors like the prog metal scene. I dont, but I'm middle aged. So, if you want prog to be celebrated into the future, you will have to accept that artists like DreamTheater and RADIOHEAD!!! are pretty much where the genre is nowadays, especially from a younger listerners perspective.
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Disagree. Prog influences will still exists, but not in the "prog metal" scene which is not prog at all, but in others genres, like jazz, fusion, or even mainstream (but not Radiohead ).
Virtually all bands which call themselves prog today are everything but prog...
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But prog metal wether prog or not is included in the archives, so can be discussed
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James Lee
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 07:46 |
I guess in a way I agree with KE9 (gasp) because I'm here mainly to explore the 60's/ 70's prog that I haven't discovered yet.
I'm not totally dismissing the stuff that came after- there's some bands that I really like- but the genre that I think of as 'progressive rock' is almost exclusively a creature of the 70's, and to me the most exciting (and/or 'progressive') music after that period was not directly related to the genre.
Undoubtably, I'm gonna talk about music other than prog in my posts, but I probably won't create a topic about any band that isn't directly related to prog in some way. I certainly wouldn't expect you lot to appreciate a bluegrass thread. 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 07:52 |
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True but I had my reasons to put my thread
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 07:55 |
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Damn, KE9...you just can't be happy, can you?
Here's how the rest of this discussion will go: I'll say Iron Maiden was one of the biggest inspirations for the prog metal genre, and you'll respond that prog metal isn't prog. Someone will get upset and the whole discussion will go down the tubes.
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WELL IF ALL THESE SUB GENS ARE ACCEPTABLE EVEN THOUGH SOME T**T THOUGHT THEM UP.I WANT NOTHING OF IT.I WILL BRAND EARLY PROG INTO SOMETHING I CAN ASSOCIATE TO WITHOUT GETTING MIXED INTO THIS NEW CRAP.
The best answer we can give is to start threads that elevate the level of this forum! This must be done with people with a good prog background.
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People with a good prog back ground!I think i've notice as many on here that im have trouble counting on my left hand
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 08:06 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Van Halen, iron maiden or Metalicca are the antithesis of prog, so please don't even quote them here!
I'm with Karn on this one. |
Oliver do you actually eat those ''Fly Agaric'' mushrooms in your Avatar or sit on them?
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 08:09 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
[QUOTE=James Lee]
Damn, KE9...you just can't be happy, can you?
Here's how the rest of this discussion will go: I'll say Iron Maiden was one of the biggest inspirations for the prog metal genre, and you'll respond that prog metal isn't prog. Someone will get upset and the whole discussion will go down the tubes.
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WELL IF ALL THESE SUB GENS ARE ACCEPTABLE EVEN THOUGH SOME T**T THOUGHT THEM UP.I WANT NOTHING OF IT.I WILL BRAND EARLY PROG INTO SOMETHING I CAN ASSOCIATE TO WITHOUT GETTING MIXED INTO THIS NEW CRAP.
The best answer we can give is to start threads that elevate the level of this forum! This must be done with people with a good prog background.
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People with a good prog back ground!I think i've notice as many on here that im have trouble counting on my left hand
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How would you define 'good prog background'?? Someone who only appreciates classic prog from the golden age? Or someone who is broadminded and accepting of the fact that all music genres evolve and diversify?
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 08:19 |
James Lee wrote:
I guess in a way I agree with KE9 (gasp) because I'm here mainly to explore the 60's/ 70's prog that I haven't discovered yet.
I'm not totally dismissing the stuff that came after- there's some bands that I really like- but the genre that I think of as 'progressive rock' is almost exclusively a creature of the 70's, and to me the most exciting (and/or 'progressive') music after that period was not directly related to the genre.
Undoubtably, I'm gonna talk about music other than prog in my posts, but I probably won't create a topic about any band that isn't directly related to prog in some way. I certainly wouldn't expect you lot to appreciate a bluegrass thread.
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Thank you James
Prog as we all know it popped it's cloggs in the late '70's.These new bands are just playing at it & making a total bollox of it may i add
We do 70's prog here...Any found not to,then i will be back.
Be for warned people
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:23 |
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I see Prog as a 70s thing I don't know Why!!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:28 |
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I see Prog as a 70s thing I don't know Why!! |
Cos it is PROGMAN
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Gloryscene
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:36 |
Music is music and I like many different genres. BUT obviously this is a prog site so there is no point discussing non-prog bands as it maybe misleading to those looking for new discoveries 
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"The Beautiful Ally Of Your Own Gravediggers"
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:57 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
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I see Prog as a 70s thing I don't know Why!! |
Cos it is PROGMAN
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Very well most of my Favourites bands come from the 60s/70s era anyway whether they're Psych or Prog!!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:57 |
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But I am open to all good rock music!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:49 |
Well I for one love 90s prog
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Gloryscene
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 11:48 |
Yeah here here on 90's prog Snow Dog!!! Mars Volta as well as Oceansize and Cave In put me in the direction of finding out about Yes and Rush and these led too many other wonderful prog discoveries!
Once you've listened to prog you just can't stop! 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:05 |
Please dont exterminate me 
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:33 |
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I don't know why, I just found that funny 
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 17:57 |
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