Favorite Gabriel-Era Genesis Album pt.2

Close call between Foxtrot and Selling England...but I went with the latter due to the vastly improved sound quality.

ARE YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL????

If you really are music or at least Genesis connoisseurs you
should vote unanimously for The Lamb... for chrissakes!!!
It's by far the Sargent Pepper's of the seventies ! and it set the
gap between Gabriel and the other other lame dudes (except
Hackett, of course). Genesis never ever did an album this
ambitious, cerebral and full of virtuosism like this one.
The Lamb was the obvious next step in the evolution of the
band but the egos sent it to hell. The previous albums of the
band sounds dated compared with The Lamb...
next to The Lamb...is Selling England , the onlyimperfection is
More fool Me , a sacharine flop that marked the difference
between gabriel genius and wit and the other guys..
And for the other three previous albums (tresspas, Nursery and
Foxtrot ) I consider them a trilogy, all of them equally good,
IMHO.

Edited by Rael Taxt 2099

1. Foxtrot (EVERY TRACK IS PERFECT)
2. Selling England... (More Fool Me.....)
3. Nursery Cryme (Musical Box!)
4. The LLDOB ( - Can't Make Up My Mind Yet - Uneven)
5. Genesis Live
6. Trespass (The Knife and Stagnation )
7. From Genesis to Revelation (absolute garbage....KC, Yes, Tull, Floyd has better in '69)

 

Rael Taxt 2099 wrote: ARE YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL???? If you really are music or at least Genesis connoisseurs you should vote unanimously for The Lamb... for chrissakes!!! It's by far the Sargent Pepper's of the seventies ! and it set the gap between Gabriel and the other other lame dudes (except Hackett, of course). Genesis never ever did an album this ambitious, cerebral and full of virtuosism like this one. The Lamb was the obvious next step in the evolution of the band but the egos sent it to hell. The previous albums of the band sounds dated compared with The Lamb... next to The Lamb...is Selling England , the onlyimperfection is More fool Me , a sacharine flop that marked the difference between gabriel genius and wit and the other guys.. And for the other three previous albums (tresspas, Nursery and Foxtrot ) I consider them a trilogy, all of them equally good, IMHO.

Ok Rael, that's your opinion, but I stay with Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme for several reasons:

1. The first two Hackett & Gabriel albums have a more atmospheric sound that was mostly gone with SEBTP.
2. Trespass, NC and Foxtrot are darker albums, had some kind of mystery that was lost after Foxtrot.
3. By far the best lyrics are in Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme.
4. SEBTP is too cheerful and friendly for my taste, not only More Fool Me (which is the worst track in Gabriel era) but I Know What I Like are too radio friendly for Genesis, this is not necessarily bad, but the songs are weak.
5. The Lamb has an amazing concept, but the atmospheric guitar was almost lost, don't like the short songs format in this album and besides In the Cage and Back in NYC there are no masterpieces of the height of Musical Box, Fountain of Salmacis, Supper's Ready, Can Utility and the Coastliners, etc.

Last but more important, it's my taste and my choice, I Know what I Like and The Lamb is not my fav Genesis album.

My list:

1. Nursery Cryme
2. Foxtrot
3. Trespass
4. Live
5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
6. Selling England by the Pound.

Iván

BTW: Even though Hackett and Gabriel are by large my favotrite Genesis musicians, the band could never exist without Tony Banks. They did their last two very good (even when inferior to ay Gabriel era) albums without Peter (ATOTT and W&W), they also did a great album like Trespass without Steve or Phil Collins, but without Tony, it would be simply impossible.

Iván

1. The Lamb
2. SEBTP
3. Foxtrot
4. Trespass
5. Nursery Cryme
6. Live (1973)
7. FGTR

My 2p worth...

Voted Selling. Now, sorry to step aside, but I didn't want to start a new topic with my question.

I saw a DVD of Genesis live performances ('73 or so) which wasn't expensive and has a good selection of classic songs. I don't remember if it had any other title than 'Genesis Live' or something. It irritates me that as a compilation from 3 different concerts, it has some songs two or three times. But if some of you have seen it, please tell me if it's worth buying or is the sound (and visual) quality low. (It looked rather low-budget product...) 

Matti wrote: Voted Selling. Now, sorry to step aside, but I didn't want to start a new topic with my question. I saw a DVD of Genesis live performances ('73 or so) which wasn't expensive and has a good selection of classic songs. I don't remember if it had any other title than 'Genesis Live' or something. It irritates me that as a compilation from 3 different concerts, it has some songs two or three times. But if some of you have seen it, please tell me if it's worth buying or is the sound (and visual) quality low. (It looked rather low-budget product...)

Where did you see that Matti???

As far as I'm aware the only footage of Genesis love from the old days is recording off Belgian TV in about 1973. This is supposed to be pretty good, but hard to track down. Be warned. If the DVD you saw was the 'Inside Genesis' DVD then dont bother, it's appalling, and consists of music critics and few members of Mostly Autumn going on about how great Genesis are - as if we need to be told - punctuated with a few crap clips with credits and copyright notices pasted over them.

by heart : TRESPASS

by ears: SELLING...

by brain: LAMB

but cause I listen to my heart mostly, I vote for Trespass.

That was album which definitely made me better, hope.

 

I think The lamb is their best work. Selling England by the pound is very close, but you have to consider the range and scope of the former.This is Gabriel's crowning glory demonstrating his ability to create insteresting stories and adapting them to music.

 

 

Tough choices, so I'll limit it to the amount of playtime each one gets

1.) Foxtrot - Supper's Ready is simply a masterpiece, and this is probably Genesis' most consistent album, with only 'Time Table' not reaching the moniker of "amazing!"

2.) The Lamb - Some weaker tracks and more uneven, but the story/lyrics/scope of the whole thing is phenomenal

3.) Selling England - Some of their best tracks easily, but a few filler-ish stuff I don't care for too much (After the Ordeal, More Fool Me)

4.) Nursery Cryme - Not much her eother than The Musical Box and Hogweed, though both are awesome songs. Harold's pretty fun too

5.) Trespass - Good, earlier stuff, nothing really stand-outish, other than 'Knife'

6.) Live - Nice versions but not too essential if you've already got the original songs

7.) FGTR - Haven't heard it yet, but from what I hear I doubt it will change it's place here