Favorite Gabriel-Era Genesis Album pt.2
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Topic: Favorite Gabriel-Era Genesis Album pt.2
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Subject: Favorite Gabriel-Era Genesis Album pt.2
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 00:24
sorry i screwed up the other thread...
Probably a repeated thread, but deal with it.
I just got Nursery Crime today, and I've just started to really listen
to it... and i don't yet own the Lamb... but for now my vote goes for
Foxtrot.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 00:37
ignore this thread, there's no Archives I, you suck 
Now seriously, I voted for Nursery Cryme, no song comes near to The Musical Box and Fountain of Salmacis even when I would delete For Absent Friends.
Iván
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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 00:43
Pah! Nursery Cryme was just the band limbering up for their real masterpiece, Foxtrot.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 06:28
Foxtrot (Suppers Ready is the best twenty minute prog track IMO)
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 11:07
The Musical Box is a pretty good track though.....
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 11:28
Selling, then Foxtrot!
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 14:00
I went for Nursery Cryme. It's a close run thign of course, many fine albums, but that's alwasy been the one I rate highest.
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 14:04
I go for Selling England - Because it's got Firth of Fifth/ Cinema Show - The two finest Genesis compositions - It's also got BOEF/DOWAMN which are also favourite's of mine - thus no contest (Though Foxtrot/LLDOB are a VERY close second)
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 16:39
here's my order:
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Nursery Cryme
Genesis Live
Trespass
From Genesis to Revelation (sucks poop, only for novelty)
Question, is "And the Word Was..." the same thing as "From Genesis to Revelation"? Cuz I have "and the word was...". I knew it would suck, i just bought it cuz it was 2 bucks and a collector item.
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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 20:00
After Close to the edge,The lamb is the next greatest prog album, therefore it is the finest Genesis album
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 23:03
Selling England, good lord I am in love with that album.
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Posted By: the musical box
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 23:08
For me its definately Foxtrot...by a long shot.
Selling England is good...but i think its somewhat overrated(within the prog world that is). I just cant ever see what the big deal about "Cinema Show" is. The album also brims with filler IMO.
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Posted By: asuma
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 23:13
my vote goes to nursery crime
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 12 2004 at 23:32
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: December 14 2004 at 02:37
The 70-74 albums by Genesis are all great Masterpieces, but THE LAMB is the greatest one! (IMO).
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 14 2004 at 02:47
In order of preference..
The Lamb Lies down on Broadway
Foxtrot
Selling England by the Pound
Genesis Live
Nursery Cryme
Trespass
FGTR
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 14 2004 at 07:11
Swinton MCR wrote:
I go for Selling England - Because it's got Firth of Fifth/ Cinema Show - The two finest Genesis compositions - It's also got BOEF/DOWAMN which are also favourite's of mine - thus no contest (Though Foxtrot/LLDOB are a VERY close second) |
Agree.
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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: December 14 2004 at 18:49
Prog_Bassist wrote:
here's my order:
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Selling England by the Pound Foxtrot Nursery Cryme Genesis Live Trespass From Genesis to Revelation (sucks poop, only for novelty)
Question, is "And the Word Was..." the same thing as "From Genesis to Revelation"? Cuz I have "and the word was...". I knew it would suck, i just bought it cuz it was 2 bucks and a collector item.
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Yes, it is "From Genesis to Revelation" plus 4 bonus tracks (their 1968 Decca singles with the B sides). I think it was released on CD in 1987 by Decca, and it was the last time that Decca had the rights to release that album. I like their first album.
My favourite Gabriel Era-Genesis album is "Foxtrot".
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Posted By: Johnik(Genesis)
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 20:37
I voted for Foxtrot
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Posted By: Johnik(Genesis)
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 20:48
Look estimations.
They will tell about my preferences
From To Revolution 2 Trespass 8 Nursery Crime 10 Foxtrot 12+!!! Live 11 Selling England By The Pound 11 Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 9 Trick Of The Tail 11 Wind & Wuthering 8 Second Out 11 …and Then Three Were Three 12 Duke 7 Abacab 4 Three Sides Live 10 Genesis /Mama/ 7 Invisible Touch 2 We Can’t Dance 8 The Way We walk 7 Live U.S.A. (2 CD - live- bootleg) 1993 7 Calling All Station… 1 Genesis Archive /4 ńd/ 1967-1975 12 Genesis Archive /3cd/ 1976-1992 &nbs p; 10
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Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 21:07
Foxtrot - A+++
Selling England by tthe pound - A++
Nursery Cryme - A+
The lamb lies down on Broadway - A+
Trespass - A
Genesis live - A
From genesis to revelation - C
A= excellent prog cd !!!
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 21:11
Close call between Foxtrot and Selling England...but I went with the latter due to the vastly improved sound quality.
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Posted By: Kaztor
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 21:51
Foxtrot, it has some heavier tracks.
I like guitars, y'know.
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Posted By: Rael Taxt 2099
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 22:37
ARE YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL????
If you really are music or at least Genesis connoisseurs you
should vote unanimously for The Lamb... for chrissakes!!!
It's by far the Sargent Pepper's of the seventies ! and it set the
gap between Gabriel and the other other lame dudes (except
Hackett, of course). Genesis never ever did an album this
ambitious, cerebral and full of virtuosism like this one.
The Lamb was the obvious next step in the evolution of the
band but the egos sent it to hell. The previous albums of the
band sounds dated compared with The Lamb...
next to The Lamb...is Selling England , the onlyimperfection is
More fool Me , a sacharine flop that marked the difference
between gabriel genius and wit and the other guys..
And for the other three previous albums (tresspas, Nursery and
Foxtrot ) I consider them a trilogy, all of them equally good,
IMHO.
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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 23:36
Rael Taxt 2099 wrote:
ARE YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL????
If you really are music or at least Genesis connoisseurs you
should vote unanimously for The Lamb... for chrissakes!!!
It's by far the Sargent Pepper's of the seventies ! and it set the
gap between Gabriel and the other other lame dudes (except
Hackett, of course). Genesis never ever did an album this
ambitious, cerebral and full of virtuosism like this one.
The Lamb was the obvious next step in the evolution of the
band but the egos sent it to hell. The previous albums of the
band sounds dated compared with The Lamb...
next to The Lamb...is Selling England , the onlyimperfection is
More fool Me , a sacharine flop that marked the difference
between gabriel genius and wit and the other guys..
And for the other three previous albums (tresspas, Nursery and
Foxtrot ) I consider them a trilogy, all of them equally good,
IMHO. |
Yes! Yes! The Lamb! The Lamb!!!!
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 00:46
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 00:50
Foxtrot, nothing can top the epic "Supper's Ready"
Nursery Cryme a close second, for my fav genesis track "The Musical Box"
PG is the mang.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 01:44
Rael Taxt 2099 wrote:
ARE YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL????
If you really are music or at least Genesis connoisseurs you should vote unanimously for The Lamb... for chrissakes!!! It's by far the Sargent Pepper's of the seventies ! and it set the gap between Gabriel and the other other lame dudes (except Hackett, of course). Genesis never ever did an album this ambitious, cerebral and full of virtuosism like this one. The Lamb was the obvious next step in the evolution of the band but the egos sent it to hell. The previous albums of the band sounds dated compared with The Lamb... next to The Lamb...is Selling England , the onlyimperfection is More fool Me , a sacharine flop that marked the difference between gabriel genius and wit and the other guys.. And for the other three previous albums (tresspas, Nursery and Foxtrot ) I consider them a trilogy, all of them equally good, IMHO. |
Ok Rael, that's your opinion, but I stay with Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme for several reasons:
- The first two Hackett & Gabriel albums have a more atmospheric sound that was mostly gone with SEBTP.
- Trespass, NC and Foxtrot are darker albums, had some kind of mystery that was lost after Foxtrot.
- By far the best lyrics are in Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme.
- SEBTP is too cheerful and friendly for my taste, not only More Fool Me (which is the worst track in Gabriel era) but I Know What I Like are too radio friendly for Genesis, this is not necessarily bad, but the songs are weak.
- The Lamb has an amazing concept, but the atmospheric guitar was almost lost, don't like the short songs format in this album and besides In the Cage and Back in NYC there are no masterpieces of the height of Musical Box, Fountain of Salmacis, Supper's Ready, Can Utility and the Coastliners, etc.
Last but more important, it's my taste and my choice, I Know what I Like and The Lamb is not my fav Genesis album.
My list:
- Nursery Cryme
- Foxtrot
- Trespass
- Live
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
- Selling England by the Pound.
Iván
BTW: Even though Hackett and Gabriel are by large my favotrite Genesis musicians, the band could never exist without Tony Banks. They did their last two very good (even when inferior to ay Gabriel era) albums without Peter (ATOTT and W&W), they also did a great album like Trespass without Steve or Phil Collins, but without Tony, it would be simply impossible.
Iván
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 02:53
1. Selling England by the pound (I just skip More fool me)
2. The lamb
3. Foxtrot
4. Trespass
5. Nursery cryme
All solid five star albums, bound to be in my list of 50 best prog records. Together with A trick of the tail by the way.
Genesis live is good, but does not add much to the studio albums (in general I prefer studio albums anyway).
FGTR is an interesting peek into their formative years, but utterly disposable.
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 03:32
1. The Lamb
2. SEBTP
3. Foxtrot
4. Trespass
5. Nursery Cryme
6. Live (1973)
7. FGTR
My 2p worth...
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 03:55
Foxtrot.
Always used to go for The Lamb, and regarded Foxtrot as a close second. Other way round now Foxtrot is a prog masterpiece, and not only the best Gabriel era album, but the best Genesis album overall IMO.
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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 04:25
Voted Selling. Now, sorry to step aside, but I didn't want to start a new topic with my question.
I saw a DVD of Genesis live performances ('73 or so) which wasn't expensive and has a good selection of classic songs. I don't remember if it had any other title than 'Genesis Live' or something. It irritates me that as a compilation from 3 different concerts, it has some songs two or three times. But if some of you have seen it, please tell me if it's worth buying or is the sound (and visual) quality low. (It looked rather low-budget product...)
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Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 04:37
1) Selling England
2) Foxtrot
3) Trespass
4) Nursery Cryme
5) The Lamb
6) From To
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 05:28
Matti wrote:
Voted Selling. Now, sorry to step aside, but I didn't want to start a new topic with my question.
I saw a DVD of Genesis live performances ('73 or so) which wasn't expensive and has a good selection of classic songs. I don't remember if it had any other title than 'Genesis Live' or something. It irritates me that as a compilation from 3 different concerts, it has some songs two or three times. But if some of you have seen it, please tell me if it's worth buying or is the sound (and visual) quality low. (It looked rather low-budget product...)
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Where did you see that Matti???
As far as I'm aware the only footage of Genesis love from the old days is recording off Belgian TV in about 1973. This is supposed to be pretty good, but hard to track down. Be warned. If the DVD you saw was the 'Inside Genesis' DVD then dont bother, it's appalling, and consists of music critics and few members of Mostly Autumn going on about how great Genesis are - as if we need to be told - punctuated with a few crap clips with credits and copyright notices pasted over them.
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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 05:43
In a market's music department (here in Finland). 'Inside Genesis' doesn't seem to be the same. I'll have a closer look at it - but knowing how crappy live-dvd's can be, I won't buy it yet.
Nice weekend to all, I must be going soon (I'm around only in my working time).
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Posted By: VLADO
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 06:02
by heart : TRESPASS
by ears: SELLING...
by brain: LAMB
but cause I listen to my heart mostly, I vote for Trespass.
That was album which definitely made me better, hope.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 10:00
Trespass ****1/2 Nursery Cryme ****1/2 Foxtrot ****1/2 Selling England By The Pound **** The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway **1/2 From Genesis To Revelation *
I like Trespass the most, Foxtrot, Selling England and Nursery Cryme I like very much too, the rest of Genesis is not worth a mention.
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Posted By: gleam
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 11:24
I think The lamb is their best work. Selling England by the pound is very close, but you have to consider the range and scope of the former.This is Gabriel's crowning glory demonstrating his ability to create insteresting stories and adapting them to music.
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 19:03
1. Foxtrot
2. Selling England By The Pound
3. Nursery Cryme
4. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
5. Trespass
6. Live
7. From Genesis To Revelation
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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 21:06
Tough choices, so I'll limit it to the amount of playtime each one gets
1.) Foxtrot - Supper's Ready is simply a masterpiece, and this is
probably Genesis' most consistent album, with only 'Time Table' not
reaching the moniker of "amazing!" 
2.) The Lamb - Some weaker tracks and more uneven, but the story/lyrics/scope of the whole thing is phenomenal
3.) Selling England - Some of their best tracks easily, but a few
filler-ish stuff I don't care for too much (After the Ordeal, More Fool
Me)
4.) Nursery Cryme - Not much her eother than The Musical Box and
Hogweed, though both are awesome songs. Harold's pretty fun too 
5.) Trespass - Good, earlier stuff, nothing really stand-outish, other than 'Knife'
6.) Live - Nice versions but not too essential if you've already got the original songs
7.) FGTR - Haven't heard it yet, but from what I hear I doubt it will change it's place here 
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