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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:25
You guys think that's amazing?
The strings look they were made in MS paint, the black bar along the bottom looks crap and doesn't even quite reach the side! Not to mention the height of the last ball is all wrong...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:35
DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005)
Review by Rooskie @ 9:17:35 PM EST, 4/17/2005

—   I've to say that I'm SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. I was big DT fan, until now. The begining of the album is similar to Metallica's Orion and the previous Change of Seasons. The whole album is a great mix of "technical masturbation", Metallica, and similar heavy metal sound. The work is quite linear, it consists of 8 tracks, but it's seems like almost one. I had the chance to get to their Octavarium (track 9) premix, that's a 12 min song, ironically they didn't include that one on the final version, AND OCTAVARIUM 12 min long, is REALLY A GREAT PROG/EXPERIMENTAL TRACK, the rest of the album, sorry DT, is just trash!!!! Sorry again, I must apologize to DT fans, but consider this one like an insult from our beloved DT. Listen to it and realize what I'm talking about.



Well it didn't take long for a review to show up. Is this legit? Is the album already making the rounds in the P2P networks?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:40
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DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005)
Review by Rooskie @ 9:17:35 PM EST, 4/17/2005

—   I've to say that I'm SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. I was big DT fan, until now. The begining of the album is similar to Metallica's Orion and the previous Change of Seasons. The whole album is a great mix of "technical masturbation", Metallica, and similar heavy metal sound. The work is quite linear, it consists of 8 tracks, but it's seems like almost one. I had the chance to get to their Octavarium (track 9) premix, that's a 12 min song, ironically they didn't include that one on the final version, AND OCTAVARIUM 12 min long, is REALLY A GREAT PROG/EXPERIMENTAL TRACK, the rest of the album, sorry DT, is just trash!!!! Sorry again, I must apologize to DT fans, but consider this one like an insult from our beloved DT. Listen to it and realize what I'm talking about.



Well it didn't take long for a review to show up. Is this legit? Is the album already making the rounds in the P2P networks?


No the album is NOT leaked, there are tracks by other bands labelled with the Octavarium names floating around though. God some people are stupid...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:44
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DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005) Review by Rooskie @ 9:17:35 PM EST, 4/17/2005 —   I've to say that I'm SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. I was big DT fan, until now. The begining of the album is similar to Metallica's Orion and the previous Change of Seasons. The whole album is a great mix of "technical masturbation", Metallica, and similar heavy metal sound. The work is quite linear, it consists of 8 tracks, but it's seems like almost one. I had the chance to get to their Octavarium (track 9) premix, that's a 12 min song, ironically they didn't include that one on the final version, AND OCTAVARIUM 12 min long, is REALLY A GREAT PROG/EXPERIMENTAL TRACK, the rest of the album, sorry DT, is just trash!!!! Sorry again, I must apologize to DT fans, but consider this one like an insult from our beloved DT. Listen to it and realize what I'm talking about. Well it didn't take long for a review to show up. Is this legit? Is the album already making the rounds in the P2P networks?
No the album is NOT leaked, there are tracks by other bands labelled with the Octavarium names floating around though. God some people are stupid...


Ah, I figured (and hoped) that might be the case. The same thing happened before TOT's release, and also the first Audioslave album. Don't people have anything better to do than flood the P2P networks with bogus files? I guess they think they're getting downloaders back or something, but you're right, they must think we are stupid (and evidently some people are) to not be able to tell the difference between one of your favorite bands and an imposter.
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Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005) Review by Rooskie @ 9:17:35 PM EST, 4/17/2005 —   I've to say that I'm SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. I was big DT fan, until now. The begining of the album is similar to Metallica's Orion and the previous Change of Seasons. The whole album is a great mix of "technical masturbation", Metallica, and similar heavy metal sound. The work is quite linear, it consists of 8 tracks, but it's seems like almost one. I had the chance to get to their Octavarium (track 9) premix, that's a 12 min song, ironically they didn't include that one on the final version, AND OCTAVARIUM 12 min long, is REALLY A GREAT PROG/EXPERIMENTAL TRACK, the rest of the album, sorry DT, is just trash!!!! Sorry again, I must apologize to DT fans, but consider this one like an insult from our beloved DT. Listen to it and realize what I'm talking about. Well it didn't take long for a review to show up. Is this legit? Is the album already making the rounds in the P2P networks?
No the album is NOT leaked, there are tracks by other bands labelled with the Octavarium names floating around though. God some people are stupid...


Ah, I figured (and hoped) that might be the case. The same thing happened before TOT's release, and also the first Audioslave album. Don't people have anything better to do than flood the P2P networks with bogus files? I guess they think they're getting downloaders back or something, but you're right, they must think we are stupid (and evidently some people are) to not be able to tell the difference between one of your favorite bands and an imposter.

Hey, first post here, nice to meet you all   I just wanted to add that from what we've been able to gather over at the Mike Portnoy message board, most of the fake tracks are from James LaBrie new solo album Elements of PErsuasion wich is why many people are thrown off. So is there any way to remove this review?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:09
Ah. I just created a topic wondering about this review. Thanks for saving me the time of checking for a reply every 3 minutes haha.
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I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums.

If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:12

Good to hear that the negative review was "bogus."  I'm only a casual Dream Theater fan, but still I have high hopes for this one.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:14
Originally posted by XeRocks81 XeRocks81 wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005) Review by Rooskie @ 9:17:35 PM EST, 4/17/2005 —   I've to say that I'm SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. I was big DT fan, until now. The begining of the album is similar to Metallica's Orion and the previous Change of Seasons. The whole album is a great mix of "technical masturbation", Metallica, and similar heavy metal sound. The work is quite linear, it consists of 8 tracks, but it's seems like almost one. I had the chance to get to their Octavarium (track 9) premix, that's a 12 min song, ironically they didn't include that one on the final version, AND OCTAVARIUM 12 min long, is REALLY A GREAT PROG/EXPERIMENTAL TRACK, the rest of the album, sorry DT, is just trash!!!! Sorry again, I must apologize to DT fans, but consider this one like an insult from our beloved DT. Listen to it and realize what I'm talking about. Well it didn't take long for a review to show up. Is this legit? Is the album already making the rounds in the P2P networks?
No the album is NOT leaked, there are tracks by other bands labelled with the Octavarium names floating around though. God some people are stupid...
Ah, I figured (and hoped) that might be the case. The same thing happened before TOT's release, and also the first Audioslave album. Don't people have anything better to do than flood the P2P networks with bogus files? I guess they think they're getting downloaders back or something, but you're right, they must think we are stupid (and evidently some people are) to not be able to tell the difference between one of your favorite bands and an imposter.


Hey, first post here, nice to meet you all   I just wanted to add that from what we've been able to gather over at the Mike Portnoy message board, most of the fake tracks are from James LaBrie new solo album Elements of PErsuasion wich is why many people are thrown off. So is there any way to remove this review?





AHA, that would explain it, as it WAS definitely Labrie. I'm listening again right now and trying to pick out the song title in the lyrics. I'll get back...


EDIT: The song I heard was "Crucify" from James' solo album "ELements Of Persuasion".

Whew...I really didn't like it much at all .

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If it says Crucify in the first song, that's Elements of Persuasion. Hasn'T anybody here heard it? It's a great album.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:15
Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums.

If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure.


Read the posts above...just because James Labrie is singing doesn't mean it's 'definitely DT'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:19
Cover looks really cool.  Hopefully the album lives up.
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Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums. If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure.
Read the posts above...just because James Labrie is singing doesn't mean it's 'definitely DT'.


Well it wasn't just the voice. I challenge you to listen to that song and tell me it doesn't sound like some DT stuff. I'm sure there is a reason why whomever chose that particular track to "mimic" DT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:29
Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums. If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure.
Read the posts above...just because James Labrie is singing doesn't mean it's 'definitely DT'.


Well it wasn't just the voice. I challenge you to listen to that song and tell me it doesn't sound like some DT stuff. I'm sure there is a reason why whomever chose that particular track to "mimic" DT.


I'm not saying it would be hard to get fooled, but at least you're not going to go review it now are you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:29
Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums. If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure.
Read the posts above...just because James Labrie is singing doesn't mean it's 'definitely DT'.
Well it wasn't just the voice. I challenge you to listen to that song and tell me it doesn't sound like some DT stuff. I'm sure there is a reason why whomever chose that particular track to "mimic" DT.
I'm not saying it would be hard to get fooled, but at least you're not going to go review it now are you?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:31

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by chorus of one chorus of one wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums. If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure.
Read the posts above...just because James Labrie is singing doesn't mean it's 'definitely DT'.


Well it wasn't just the voice. I challenge you to listen to that song and tell me it doesn't sound like some DT stuff. I'm sure there is a reason why whomever chose that particular track to "mimic" DT.

Oh there's no doubt that it sounds like DT, especially since it is a very heavy and aggressive album much like TOT.  THe lead guitar player on EOP, an unknown named Marco Sfogli(?) is a big Petrucci fan and JP even sent him a couple of his signature EB/MM guitars to record the album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 16:15
that is a beautiful album cover. I cant wait!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 16:35

OMG, this is adding insult to injury now :

DREAM THEATER Octavarium
Review by Bialkomat @ 2:54:12 PM EST, 4/18/2005

4 stars  —  I've to say many people, who think that they've heard brand new Dream Theater's Octavarium, they have been cheated! Why? Because when they tries to download this album from various P2P programs, they actually downloaded new James LaBrie's album called "Elements Of Persuation"!!! I have the same... And at the first moment I have also been very dissapointed, but very quickly (fortunately ;) ) I realized that I'm listening to LaBrie's Solo album! So I propose let's all be more patient and wait for 7th June when 'real' Octavarium will be released!!!
 
 
WTF?  Who's cheating who now??!!  Seriously can't anything be done about these atrocious "reviews" (and I use the term loosely).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:14

Yea, why is he adressing this in ANOTHER pointless review?

I personally think you should've waited for june to put the album on the site



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:49

I deleted both reviews, they were much inappropriate !

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