Dream Theater Octavarium new album cover
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Topic: Dream Theater Octavarium new album cover
Posted By: M@X
Subject: Dream Theater Octavarium new album cover
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:30
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Dream Theater Octavarium covert art released and tracks list, available @ progarchives.com http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7515 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=7515
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:32
Thanks mailto:M@X - M@X . what a service we get here! First Class! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:35
sweet deal! can't wait....as longas it's Images and Words Part II, not Train of Thought Part II 
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:36
| Hmm, that's a wierd cover....I'll have to check the album out. Thanks max. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:37
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Wont be either! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:56
And the highres version! ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:02
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Someone already used the "concept" of having 8 songs on an album and putting "Oct" in the title... Ah, it'll probably be good anyway. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:03
I really do like that cover ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:03
Well yeah I know it probably won't resemble either CD at all, but if I had to choose a direction that Dream Theater was going to take for the new album, I'd prefer it to hark back to their roots rather than their new direction, while I do believe both sides have their pros and cons |
Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:03
I think for both of the bands, it was also their 8th official album... 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:10
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Thanks mailto:M@X - M@X ! That's a pretty cool album cover. If this album is Train of Thought 2,....I don't know what I'll do. But it's a cool cover. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:12
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It doesnt Look like Train.................but you cant something something by its cover! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:27
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The band has already adamently stated that it's not Train II, and that it might in fact be something of a return to I&W...
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 18:29
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Well,I have to concede that I like the cover.
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 19:02
| I hope the songs are as good as that cover! |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 19:39
| That is one amazing cover, and not like anything we've seen from Dream Theater yet. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 20:59
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Niiiiice cover. One of the best, at least recently ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:04
Been scratching my head on that one. I thought he was talking about Gentle Giant, but evidently there is another one I'm not remembering, since Octopus was GG's 4th album. Enlighten me please! 
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:08
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Spock's Beard - Octane.
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:09
Gotcha! Thanks.
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Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:25
You guys think that's amazing?  The strings look they were made in MS paint, the black bar along the bottom looks crap and doesn't even quite reach the side! Not to mention the height of the last ball is all wrong...
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:35
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DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005)
Review by Rooskie @ 9:17:35 PM EST, 4/17/2005 — I've to say that I'm SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS ALBUM. I was big DT fan, until now. The begining of the album is similar to Metallica's Orion and the previous Change of Seasons. The whole album is a great mix of "technical masturbation", Metallica, and similar heavy metal sound. The work is quite linear, it consists of 8 tracks, but it's seems like almost one. I had the chance to get to their Octavarium (track 9) premix, that's a 12 min song, ironically they didn't include that one on the final version, AND OCTAVARIUM 12 min long, is REALLY A GREAT PROG/EXPERIMENTAL TRACK, the rest of the album, sorry DT, is just trash!!!! Sorry again, I must apologize to DT fans, but consider this one like an insult from our beloved DT. Listen to it and realize what I'm talking about. Well it didn't take long for a review to show up. Is this legit? Is the album already making the rounds in the P2P networks? |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:40
No the album is NOT leaked, there are tracks by other bands labelled with the Octavarium names floating around though. God some people are stupid... |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:44
Ah, I figured (and hoped) that might be the case. The same thing happened before TOT's release, and also the first Audioslave album. Don't people have anything better to do than flood the P2P networks with bogus files? I guess they think they're getting downloaders back or something, but you're right, they must think we are stupid (and evidently some people are) to not be able to tell the difference between one of your favorite bands and an imposter. |
Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:07
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Hey, first post here, nice to meet you all ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
Posted By: ShaggyMcShagg7
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:09
| Ah. I just created a topic wondering about this review. Thanks for saving me the time of checking for a reply every 3 minutes haha. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:12
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I dunno, I went and checked my P2P network of choice, and there were three songs supposedly from Octavarium. I d/led the first one (track 1-The Root Of All Evil) and it is definitely DT, nothing I've ever heard, and I do have all their albums.
If it is the real thing, it is very similar to TOT as it still has a very heavy metallic edge to it. And the reviewer is right, the beginning is quite similar to the intro to Change Of Seasons in that it starts out with an arpeggiated acoustic seven-string figure. |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:12
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Good to hear that the negative review was "bogus." I'm only a casual Dream Theater fan, but still I have high hopes for this one. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:14
AHA, that would explain it, as it WAS definitely Labrie. I'm listening again right now and trying to pick out the song title in the lyrics. I'll get back... EDIT: The song I heard was "Crucify" from James' solo album "ELements Of Persuasion".
Whew...I really didn't like it much at all .
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Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:15
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If it says Crucify in the first song, that's Elements of Persuasion. Hasn'T anybody here heard it? It's a great album. ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:15
Read the posts above...just because James Labrie is singing doesn't mean it's 'definitely DT'. |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:19
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Cover looks really cool. Hopefully the album lives up.
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:27
Well it wasn't just the voice. I challenge you to listen to that song and tell me it doesn't sound like some DT stuff. I'm sure there is a reason why whomever chose that particular track to "mimic" DT. |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:29
I'm not saying it would be hard to get fooled, but at least you're not going to go review it now are you? 
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:29
Absolutely not!
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Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:31
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Oh there's no doubt that it sounds like DT, especially since it is a very heavy and aggressive album much like TOT. THe lead guitar player on EOP, an unknown named Marco Sfogli(?) is a big Petrucci fan and JP even sent him a couple of his signature EB/MM guitars to record the album. ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
Posted By: Unifaun
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 16:15
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that is a beautiful album cover. I cant wait! ------------- 
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Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 16:35
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OMG, this is adding insult to injury now DREAM THEATER Octavarium  — I've to say many people, who think that they've heard brand new Dream Theater's Octavarium, they have been cheated! Why? Because when they tries to download this album from various P2P programs, they actually downloaded new James LaBrie's album called "Elements Of Persuation"!!! I have the same... And at the first moment I have also been very dissapointed, but very quickly (fortunately ;) ) I realized that I'm listening to LaBrie's Solo album! So I propose let's all be more patient and wait for 7th June when 'real' Octavarium will be released!!! WTF? Who's cheating who now??!! Seriously can't anything be done about these atrocious "reviews" (and I use the term loosely). ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
:Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:14
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Yea, why is he adressing this in ANOTHER pointless review? I personally think you should've waited for june to put the album on the site -------------
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:49
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I deleted both reviews, they were much inappropriate !
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Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 17:59
Thank you very much ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:34
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Too late for puting trinkets on a Christmas tree! Just kidding! Not a bad cover. Let's hope the music will be good or I'll totally stop listening to DT.
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Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 18 2005 at 20:16
Here's the final cover, looks much better to me.
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Posted By: El TAM
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 03:55
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I adore the cover... It makes me anticipate the new album even highlier... (God, that is expressed in a somewhat strange fashion... )
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Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:01
| Good cover - but the angle of the string is still humbug (intentionally?). |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:46
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I just noticed that and it's driving me nuts now. |
Posted By: topographic2112
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:21
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Same here. I can't wait!!!!!!! ------------- "Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release" |
Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 11:27
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The last ball is at the wrong height, and it's driving me insane! Does
anyone know if that was intentional or just a paintshop error or
something? Knowing Dream Theater there's probably some deeper meaning
there of sorts, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 14:52
| The meaning of the ball being too high is because they didn't want the "Octavarium" on the hills. Duh. |
Posted By: Unifaun
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 17:09
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maybe the string is stretchy -------------
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Posted By: Gaspy Conana
Date Posted: April 19 2005 at 22:52
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out of all the progressive bands I think Dream Theater has the most Spinal Tap moments can't wait ------------- i no wuts proggeir and u dont so their |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 08:40
LOL ... had the same idea (LaBrie solo Album) when I read the preceding post. That stuff is not bad, but not really prog. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 08:46
Am I the only one who missed the point totally here..? Edit: Okay, I get the point now |
Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 08:59
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Yes (I guess). ------------- You house proud town mouse ha ha, charade you are |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 12:56
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DREAM THEATER - Octavarium (2005) Review by Rafael @ 11:20:41 AM EST, 4/22/2005  — There is one thing i cant understand about this album, why the song names have nothing to do with the lyrics? ie:The root of all evil, chorus says "crucify...." over and over, that makes no sense, is crucifiction the root of all evil? maybe the other people who downloaded the album could explain me, beside that, this album is so diferent, it doesnt seem like dt at all, the only thing about dt i recognize there is james labries voices, the rest of the instruments doesnt sound like dt, the guitar doesnt sounds like petrucci, it reminds me a guitar player called "marco sfogli", and keyboards sounds like they where done by matt guillory, very weird, i wonder if any other who downloaded this noticed that?, however, its a cool album, but not a good dt album, i wont buy this album cause its very bad, and i wont listen to it again, and if someone said i downloaded a fake, i wont care cause i know its the real one, i completely trust on p2p, and i dont need any proove that the album is the real thing before critizicing. You've gotta be kidding me...
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Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 14:23
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I was also thinking Octave by the Moody Blues.... ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 17:48
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Hah, I was actually thinking Octane because its one of the first albums I got this year, so it was fresh on my mind, not as fresh as something like the Moody Blues (years ago). Hah Crucify was actually a song on the new James Labrie album- Elements of Persuasion (quite heavy, not really Metal or Prog Rock, more like Hard Rock) |
Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 18:47
that's actually kinda funny ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
Posted By: frinspar
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 18:59
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I like Rafael's sense of humor
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 19:13
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Hah, yea. Definitely. I had a laugh when I read it. |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 20:54
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Maybe but are the album reviews an appropriate place for that sort of humour? |
Posted By: XeRocks81
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 23:08
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probably not... but it was asking for it considering the previous "reviews" ------------- Sometimes I don't understand Why I was born at all - Neal Morse |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 23 2005 at 01:24
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See the review afterwards, another idiot who clearly doesn't understand satire. |
Posted By: henri_ds
Date Posted: April 23 2005 at 04:52
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Very nice cover. And VERY different from any previous DT artwork. I
don't know why, I can feel more maturity in this artwork.
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Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: April 23 2005 at 05:22
I know why. Two words: Hugh Syme.
... but the ball on the right hand is still far too freaky. ------------- You house proud town mouse ha ha, charade you are |
Posted By: KingDavid
Date Posted: May 25 2005 at 06:00
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Haven't U heard the promo? 2 songs from the new album. Panic Attack and break down these walls. i think they are cool....
Anyone heard them?
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Posted By: el_barnez
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:23
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CAN I JUST SAY... ...I havent studied all the posts in detail but there are alot of people saying they have this album who don't and alot of people saying that there isnt a leaked one yet...YOU ARE ALL WRONG...I downloaded this album this morning and it is the 100% correct Octavarium. check out http://www.torrentspy.com - www.torrentspy.com if you dont believe me. Also I know it is correct because The root of all evil contains follow on lines and riffs from this dying soul and the glass prison. These walls and Panic Attack are both in their full state on the album with over 3 mins extra audio than the 2 leaked radio edits. Hop along to the mxtabs musician forums a few people have started posting the real album on their, but ive been listenign to this album since this morning and it is awsome!
P.S. And no! it's not the James Labrie album...i have that aswell |
Posted By: Gaspy Conana
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:43
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Yeah it's out there really now like the above poster said. Don't have it yet though. Can't wait. ------------- i no wuts proggeir and u dont so their |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:48
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Well, considering it was leaked in the middle of the night last night,
I'd say that every previous post saying there is no leak was accurate.
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:50
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Yes, please let this thread die already! It was my most embarassing forum moment here.
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Posted By: ShaggyMcShagg7
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 18:52
| I don't know everyone jumps on leaked albums so quickly. Just by the album when it comes out. I kind of think people who have already heard the album are ruining it for the rest. |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 19:44
| I have to say that I feel the MAJORITY of people that download the album are just curious fans who want to hear the CD and cant wait, I suspect that they will render their illegal activity null by buying the CD on the 7th. |
Posted By: alchemist
Date Posted: May 26 2005 at 20:53
I like The Octavarium cover, it's great, who did the design? ------------- no great genius has existed without a touch of madness... |
Posted By: Shredder Sepp
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 18:08
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Well the album definitely HAS leaked. I already own it in it's entirety. And it's not Elements of Persuation. I own all the DT albums and know for sure that this is new stuff. Besided the song titles are mentioned in the lyrics. I just got it, listening the album for the second time. Most songs are (very) different of what they did before and is, thus, definitely not a TOT II. I think it needs to grow on you. It sounds promising anyhow. The fourth song (I Walk Beside You) even sounds like (a heavier version of) U2!
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Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 19:15
You mean that it's a total U2 ripoff... I couldn't stop laughing when I first heard that chorus. It's hilariously bad. And Octavarium is quite a weird song. Some of you classic prog fan might like it more than DT's previous work. I personnally find it pretty disjointed and the lyrics are, once again, hilariously bad. Oh and they really ripped muse off on two seperate songs. Never Enough = Stockholm Syndrome  Overall a pretty weak and bland album IMO. |
Posted By: juanvalverde
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 19:36
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I heard Stockholm Syndrome today, and doesnt seem like a ripoff to me, yeah, you can hear influences, but not a ripoff...
I walk beside you seems like a pretty good song to me, maybe some so so lyrics, but nothing like you say ...
Octavarium is one of the best songs ive ever heard, and it starts with a very powerfull lyrics:
"I never wanted to become someone like him...." It makes you think that the song has a nice story coming. Also, i cant completly judge the lyrics because i dont have them yet, the album hasnt been released, and you cant tell exactly what LaBrie is saying in some parts, so ill wait till the cd is released and then make my own judgement. ------------- Dream Theater made me listen to Rush,Yes, ELP, Genesis.. That must count for something! |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 20:26
| Have you heard the middle section? The lyrics are horrendous. And the "trapped inside this octavarium" part is atrocious... |
Posted By: Sean2989
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 21:10
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i have the cd and it kicks ass!!! and you can find it at this web site http://forum.cifraclub.terra.com.br/forum/9/91669/p5
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 23:30
Comes out on Tuesday. Yesssssss..........
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Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 23:45
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WOW YOU REALLY MEAN I CAN DOWNLOAD THE CD RIGHT NOW EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO BE IT ANYWAY, SO THERE'S REALLY NO REASON WHY I SHOULD BOTHER WITH EVEN THINKING ABOUT DOWNLOADING IT??!!!1111 ARE YOU. . . SERIOUS?!111
Oh, God, I can't wait! ------------- "Don't listen to me." |