The Greatest ever

henri_ds wrote: Radioactive Toy wrote: well there are 17 idiots on this forum by now.... and MANY more, like you. I thought that the prog community was made of intelligent, rational, open-minded people. Thanks to some guys here, they all proved me wrong. You talk sh*t about everything that's not prog and that is not from the 70s. congrats people, you've just proved your stupidity and ignorance. Many many so-called progheads make themselves an immense joy of dissing with occasional animosity DT, and also other prog bands from the 90s. Why so ? Are you jealous of their success in the prog world ? any other reason ? As someone else said, if I wasn't into DT, I wouldnt' be AT ALL into prog. DT got me into : Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Neal Morse, PoS, Porcupine Tree, Queensrÿche, OSI, LTE, Transatlantic, Planet X, Meshuggah....

all DT fans who think DT IS the greatest proved stupidity and ignorance.. JUST the progressive metalscene is so widespread.. Almost every DT fan begins and stops with DT.. maybe 2 or 3 more bands.. It's SO irritating to hear "uh dream theatre is tha best" well DT just isn't!

Radioactive Toy wrote: well there are 17 idiots on this forum by now....

and MANY more, like you.


I thought that the prog community was made of intelligent, rational, open-minded people. Thanks to some guys here, they all proved me wrong. You talk sh*t about everything that's not prog and that is not from the 70s. congrats people, you've just proved your stupidity and ignorance.

Many many so-called progheads make themselves an immense joy of dissing with occasional animosity DT, and also other prog bands from the 90s. Why so ? Are you jealous of their success in the prog world ? any other reason ?

As someone else said, if I wasn't into DT, I wouldnt' be AT ALL into prog. DT got me into : Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Neal Morse, PoS, Porcupine Tree, Queensrÿche, OSI, LTE, Transatlantic, Planet X, Meshuggah....


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Dream Theater are NOWHERE NEAR becoming the greatest prog band in my opinion!

Whilst I do like their music, it isn't as memorable as any of the greats of prog; in fact, despite me being a mere 17, I much prefer older prog music (as I imagine many board members are) to any modern prog band out there.

I have to say, the same applies to heavy metal and rock in general for myself.

Dream Theater are probably doing more for Prog right now then any other band at the moment. You can all deny it as much as you want, but how many (ie. me) got into Prog thanks to Dream Theater?

Thanks to Dream Theater, I'm now into Yes, Savatage, Mike Oldfield, Marillion, Van Der Graff Generator, Queensryche and many more.

Well, if DT wont be the *greatest*, who you think will be  ?

NetsNJFan wrote: YES, GENESIS, KING CRIMSON, JETHRO TULL, VdGG, ELP, PINK FLOYD AND CARAVAN destroy dream theater anyone who can beat CLOSE TO THE EDGE or FOXTROT can assume best Prog Band

Ok, ok, but you know what ? MOST OF THESE BANDS ARE f**kING DEAD !!!! Of course they made some of the best music ever to be created by human beings (especially Floyd and Genesis), I love them, but, the guys that formed these bands are like around 60 years old !!! in 25 years, it's hard to admit but they'll be 6 feet under !!! And what, you want to be looking at the past, for the rest of your days ?! come on, move on, admit that these bands are dead, and stop being so NEGATIVE about bands that aren't 30 years old !!! Look at the future, instead of whining about the past !!!!


Bands like DT, PoS, Opeth, Porcupine Tree etc.. ARE the future of prog (and prog metal). face it. If you like them, fine. If you don't like them, or dont WANT to like them, because you dont want to "betray the prog gods of the seventies", well, stay dumb and close-minded.


Flame me to death now, I don't f**king care about it.  I'm just tired of most members around here, for whom everything after 1979 is pure sh*t. And, they often have the pretention of judging, killing a band, without having listened to it.


EDIT: and please, stop comparing DT with older bands. Look, someone starts a thread about DT, and all of you start talking about how good the classib bands are etc.....
We are talking about DT, not about DT VERSUS 70's prog.

+1 for Deadwing's post. At least someone in here can write a rational statement.

amen!






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^ Yeh, first they'd actually have to be a prog band... and thats extremely questionable!!

Oy vey, what do we have here?? Someone asking a simple question with a reasonable stake at hand, and the people go ballistic!

First of all, we are not being asked if we love Dream Theater. I already stated on another thread that Dream Theater is very polarizing and you either love them or you hate them, usually for the same reasons. I believe the question asked was if Dream Theater would be the best progressive rock band ever.

Let's consider the facts:
Since 1992's Images and Words, which gained radio airply, singles, music videos, and many, many fans, Dream Theater has consistently pumped out high-caliber music for the masses to enjoy. 6 CDs have been released since I&W, all critcally aclaimed by not just prog-heads, but even by the general public. They have sold out shows across the globe, continue to redefine their sound and their audience, and have recently opened on tour with Yes, quite possibly the current bearer of the title of the best prog band. With the "Gigantour" this summer, Dream Theater will expand its image even farther into the realm of "metal" all the while getting new fans and new appreciation.

Say what you will about Dream Theater's new direction (or whole direction in the first place), their presence can't be denied: almost every prog-metal band around now owes something to Dream Theater. Already onto their 8th CD, they show no signs of stopping.

One thing I don't seem to understand is the way a lot of people diss any type of modern prog, saying "nothing will ever compare to the classics." This statement doesn't make much sense, because the only seemingly reason these bands are "classic" are because they came first and were commercially succesful enough to garner a following. Nowadays, most bands refuse to cater to the masses, and the ones that do are seen as sell-outs, giving up their talent to make money. And if a band starts out succesfully mainstream (The Mars Volta, Radiohead), they are bashed as not truly being prog for the simple fact that they are succseful commercially...just like these so-called "classics!"

But that's an argument for another day. Dream Theater is NOT my favorite band by all means, by they are currently one of the biggest prog-rock bands at this time, there's no denying that. While I do admit if they stay on their current nu-metal-ish path I will be gravely dissapointed, I would't be surprised if Dream Theater became even bigger and joined the ranks with the "classic bands" of the 70s. For my money's worth, though....I already consider them modern classics

bluetailfly wrote: Antisilence, I really think you should listen to a lot more prog before creating a ludicrous poll like this. Your love affair with DT has obviously clouded your mind to the point of near-insanity. I saw DT open for Yes and while I thought they were darn good, listening to what followed really put their rather limited range of sound into true perspective. Yes blew them away.

Agree with a lot of the milder comments made here - AS you need to expand your horizons and then give it 10 or 30 years. Come back in 2035 and tell us the same, expalin in detail why many other bands should not have the title and I might go along with you .

What was that band in Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy who were so loud , that they were forced to  put their speakers and amps on a neighbouring moon??? We could have something like that in 2035...........................................

Rob The Good wrote: OF COURSE NOT! Dream Theater wouldn't exist if it weren't for: 1. Yes 2. Uriah Heep (Prog Metal pioneers I'll have you know) 3. King Crimson 4. METALLICA 5. Probably a few others