The Greatest ever
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Topic: The Greatest ever
Posted By: antisilence
Subject: The Greatest ever
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 13:39
| Since the release of Images and Words DT has been the pioneers of NEO PROG ROCK/METAL....but can they be the greatest.I think they can.....Petrucci,Portnoy and Rudess extract incredible feel from every song, especially Petrucci..Rudess isint far behind...and Portnoy is alredy the best ever.John Myung deserves special mention here....for he can outpace most guitarists with thoseincredible fingers and manages to outshine Geddy Lee and King Crimson`s bassists...previously the best with almost laughable alacrity. If they have a stumbling block,its the vocalist.Though Labrie is excellent by most standards,he just isint good enough for DT.Though a good studio artist, his live performances range from good to absolutely horrific.He needs to be more consistent.Other than that...there is nothing to stop this long island fivesome. |
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Posted By: popesta
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 13:40
| nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 13:56
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Antisilence, I really think you should listen to a lot more prog before creating a ludicrous poll like this. Your love affair with DT has obviously clouded your mind to the point of near-insanity. I saw DT open for Yes and while I thought they were darn good, listening to what followed really put their rather limited range of sound into true perspective. Yes blew them away. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 13:57
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King Crimson will keep the title of the best band in the history of prog music forever. Also, I think that DT's best days are over, although the band's members are still doing great. |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 13:59
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: billyshears'67
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:05
Sure, maybe from your perspective. Peace & take care |
Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:12
| you must be mental |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:18
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! If Yes can blow them away, they can't be that good... |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:21
| I enjoy their music, but not even close in my book! |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:24
Sorry, but there is no Easy Livin  Just Lumpy Gravy ......and Ben Nevis
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:24
Hilarious ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:38
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DT have passed their peak. But i still recon Octavarium... poorly titled i must say... will be good ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: arkitek
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:39
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they are a great band but not that great there are lots of others who are better for that title. IMO think next time before doing a useless poll!
ONLY JOKIN |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:42
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NOOOOOO!!!! ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND!!!!!!! -------------  
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 14:54
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I love DT, but...er...NO.
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Posted By: Shatterwolf
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 15:20
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Absolutely not. Nothing can compete with the classics. ------------- 
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:14
Them's fightin' words, mister! ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Certif1ed wrote:Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:15
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Not even remotely close, & define "best," please. Methinks I detect a pre-adult.... (But that's OK!) ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Regressive Mental.
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:18
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I wouldn't even put DT on the top of the third tier of prog.
If you want them to be the best in SOME category, stick with METAL. Don't put Captain Crunch in my Cheerios. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:18
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No. Not by a long shot ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:20
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Best band ever????? I was just about to start a sympathy thread for all those who cant tell the difference between Dream Theater and sh*t! They play music as if the only instruction they've ever had is watching the guitar duel set-piece from the movie "Crossroads" ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:21
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DT before JT VC, surely not? Just for you:
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:34
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I vote yes. To me, they are the greatest band ever. My opinion... get over it. |
Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 17:49
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So far 30 negatives and 3 diehard fans.
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Posted By: Beau Heem
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 18:04
33 nay-sayers and three suspected Die Hard fans... Surely, claiming DT to be the best of the best of the best equals calling Die Hard / 2 / 3 / n / n+1 art. Cheers -beau ------------- --No enemy but time-- |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 18:30
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(apologies for the aggressiveness of my response but I find the automatic presumption of 'greatness' on this band to be a tad irritating) |
Posted By: billyshears'67
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 19:09
Wait a second here! DREAM THEATER is a group of highly trained and skilled musician's (3 of which attended Berklee)! I'm sorry, you may not like their music, but don't go as far as saying they have no clue and such, that's simply ignorant! Their masterpiece work, in my opinion, is either "A Change of Seasons", "Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper", or "Learning to Live." P.S. Do you even play an instrument lad? I do view them as one of the greatest metal bands, but not one of the best prog bands. Peace & take care |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 19:12
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They are a very important prog-metal band but NO!
They'll never be the greatest prog band ever despite their instrumental
virtuosity. They're not even pioneers of neo-prog (that would be
Genesis, Saga, Marillion) nor prog-metal (that would be King
Crimson:Red and Rush). |
Posted By: Xanadu
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 19:39
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conservatism is a major force in this forum...with some exceptions ------------- "Oh, yes, sitting-the great leveler. From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 20:21
| I voted "Yes," not because I think they are the best band ever... in fact, far from it. No, I voted "yes" because so many of you people take these polls TOO f**kING SERIOUSLY. Relax!!! |
Posted By: Lunarscape
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 21:03
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Not in a million years..... ________ Lunar ------------- Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . . |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 21:05
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I like 'em, but they are no where near the greatest. ------------- 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 03:20
With respect...''Greatest metal bands?'' ..not even close to Iron Maiden (IMO) I don't doubt they are very talented musicians.I've seen them live twice and I actually like LTE.However they have not created anything that is really interesting ...in my opinion...and considering the amount of time they've had I think they must be 'clueless'.I've got a 'Change of seasons' and compared to say 2112 by Rush ..well it just doesn't compare.And since I got Tool 'Lateralus' I've come to realise just how mediocre DT are in terms of 'prog metal'.Sorry. |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 03:30
Highly trained? Oh my god they attended Berklee! So did thousands of other music students...does that mean all their bands are the greatest ever too? I believe none of them even graduated... Don't get me wrong, they're pretty good at what they do, but their godlike status among fanboys is entirely undeserved. 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 03:32
Me?
Pick a fight?
Never...
Oh - go on then! /rolls up sleeves... |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 03:41
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Posted By: antisilence
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 03:57
Well this response has taken me aback......i admit i gotta listen more.....sorry guys.....but u gotta admit...myung is bloody good!! 
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 06:04
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They are very good, but there are many bands out there that are better, that is kind of a ridiculous suggestion
------------- We Lost the Skyline............ 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 11:32
| Instrumental virtuosity and talent have nothing to do with eachother. There's a very good reason a band like Pink Floyd is revered so highly, despite the lack of sheer playing prowess throughout the members. (I know someone's going to jump up and bite my ass for it, but it's true.) |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 11:55
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they are the best prog metal, that is all. ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 11:57
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that's all? NEVER -------------
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please.. never say such things...Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 12:03
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I think I'll be a decent human being and compliment Dream Theatre, since everyone seems to be prersecuting them mercilessly.
I think they have a really f**king cool name. |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 12:04
The mercilessm COMES from the overappreciating!!!! DT IS NOT THE BEST PROGMETAL BAND! -------------
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 12:04
Dream Theatre are very cool, Dream Theater however ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 12:09
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Sorry. I only recently found out James Labrie is not the name of a cheese. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 04:09
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Dream Theater rule. |
Posted By: Calvo
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 04:46
| Dream Theater has the best musicians in the world. It's a super group. |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 05:15
Damn you Easy, that´s not fair showing me pics of Ben Dover.------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 08:10
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In my humble opinion, come the year 2015, bands such as pre 1977 Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant will still be spoken of in revential terms as technical innovators, and leaders of the revolution - DT will prompt the response "Dream who? Oh yes, that heavy metal band who once flirted with progressive rock".
As I said, just my opinion. ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:01
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Is Dream Theater on the way to becoming the greatest prog band ever? No. Because they SUCK ASS. |
Posted By: bumheed7
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:02
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whoever made this thread is a loony. i wouldnt even put them in the top
50 prog bands let alone the best ever, or even on there way
------------- Good Morning Carpark Fans 
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Posted By: Calvo
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 09:14
| For me Dream Theater is the best band in the world. There has never been a band with such great musicians. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 09:25
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Why does Dream Theater have to be innovative to be good? Everyone says they're not innovative... so what? You all say they're overrated and receive too much radio-time, yet a band of 5 virtuosos is hardly gonna be playing in pubs are they? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 10:12
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Dream Theater are one of the best bands of the 90's 00's but will never be the greatest prog band ever. They are not prog enough. A fantastic band though! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 10:19
I do like DT a lot but I think a thread that asked this question of ANY
of the prog greast would get more no's than yes' (pardon the pun) as
opnion is so diverse (and a good job too if you ask me). ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 16:50
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YES, GENESIS, KING CRIMSON, JETHRO TULL, VdGG, ELP, PINK FLOYD AND CARAVAN destroy dream theater anyone who can beat CLOSE TO THE EDGE or FOXTROT can assume best Prog Band |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 18:48
They already are ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 19:43
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Whenever I think "DT is the best prog band ever" I listen to "Los Endos" and get kicked back to reality.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 20:05
| Sorry to break your guys' heart, but DT tries WAY to hard to be prog. They are show offs, and their music has no flow. |
Posted By: synthguy
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 20:27
Good one! Thanks for 5 minutes of uncontrollable laughter. ( I'd better cut down on the..err.. cough syrup) Peace ------------- Wearing feelings on our faces when our faces took a rest... |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 20:35
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Even though I enjoy listening to Dream Theater, no way, not in a million years are they on their way to being the best prog band ever. I think they're good, but nowhere close to being the best prog band. |
Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 21:29
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They're a great band for sure.........but its really hard to peg a band as the greatest ever, as there are so many different ways you can praise and bash bands if anyone, i'd say Yes, King Crimson, ELP, or Pink Floyd, but even then you can't really pick one as they're so different. |
Posted By: eriksalkeld
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 21:42
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great band indeed... BUT THERE IS NO WAY IT'S GONNA BE THE GREATEST PROG BAND.... NO CHANCE!!!! only one of the best, along with at least 40 more i guess... ------------- Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 23:05
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I believe that if DT members don't learn that playing complex solos with almost no connection is not the best way to create a coherent composition, they will always be incapable to create well structured music. We know each and every DT member (Except LaBrie who's voice I can't resist) are very skilled in their respective instruments and can do incredible solos, but that's the best I can say about them, IMO their compositions lack of structure (with a few exceptions),and that's not enough to be a great band. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 12 2005 at 23:45
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DT the greatest prog band ever??? The question everyone should ask themselves is will DT still be remembered in 50 years? I seriously doubt it. ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: antisilence
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:08
Am sorry...thats 4 virtuosos.......and a donkey |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:12
Stop bashing Portnoy please, he's not a donkey ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:45
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5 Virtuosi?
Maybe one true virtuoso (Jordan Rudess) + three very good musicians + a vocalist who couldn't carry a tune in a bucket live. If it weren't for Rudess, DT would be just another heavy metal band by now - I consider they began to swing away from prog-rock when Sherinian left. He was the one whose use of keyboards really defined their pre-heavy metal sound. Again - just my opinion. -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: El TAM
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:52
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Well, at least they stick to making good music, unlike some other - classic - bands did in their day: Genesis... (And Then There Were Three... And The Music Worth Nil) Yes (90125... gasp... need... oxygen...) Pink Floyd (Their "Wall" sealed off an era, not an area...) etc. etc. So, in my opinion, if they remain on the course they have set years ago, as they do now, they can rest assured of having gained a place among the greatest of the greatest. |
Posted By: Moribund
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 04:19
King Crimson: best band forever - a provocative, but persuasive claim! King Crimson certainly win for consistency, inventiveness, integrity, influence and historical significance. HOWEVER, recent releases have begun to make me begin to question Fripp's (previously unerring) ability to remove the band from existence rather than release sub-standard material... ------------- New Progressive Rock Live show now touring UK theatres! www.masterpiecestheconcert.co.uk |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 21:32
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EL TAM wrote:
They are still young, wait a couple of years and they'll make some crap But the real point is that maybe they haven't got cheesie yet, but neither they have masterpieces of the size of Foxtrot, Close to the Edge or Wish You Were Here. So thery still are farfrom the greater bands. EL TAM wrote:
Honestly I doubt it, most progheads don't accept them and metalheads believe they are too pompous, so I don't se a chance for them to join the Prog or Metal Pantheon. Iván -------------
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Posted By: ShaggyMcShagg7
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 22:09
| Although DT is one of my favorite bands, I cannot say that they are the best or on their way to be the best. I believe its hard to label any progressive rock band "the best" even King Crimson or Yes. I will say that they are the best in the Progressive Metal genre, but certainly not blowing bands such as Symphony X or Queensryche out of the water. |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 22:28
| they are good, but i think there alreasy over. thats my guess, not a fact dont get angry dt lovers! therefore, there rain is already over, and anyways they would mstill need a better album even though they have some really solid ones. the band to look out for is ozriz tenticles |
Posted By: HaroldLand
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 22:53
i also saw them open for yes, last september, in london ontario.. and yeah, it was freakin amazing (especially since i was in the third row  ),
but after a while it became just mud... high synth and low power
chords.. an obnoxious singer who runs off stage in the middle of a song
after he's done singing.. don't get me wrong.. the musicianship was
astounding, but when yes came on, their sound was sooo much better.. so
much more texture, much more pleasing to the ears.. not to
mention that the metal heads standing in front of me left after DT was
done what a rediculous poll.. |
Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: April 13 2005 at 23:21
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OF COURSE NOT!
Dream Theater wouldn't exist if it weren't for: 1. Yes 2. Uriah Heep (Prog Metal pioneers I'll have you know) 3. King Crimson 4. Probably a few others ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 06:13
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Posted By: El TAM
Date Posted: April 14 2005 at 06:42
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All bands derive from other bands, ultimately all music can be traced back to some Ape deriving extreme joy from unabashedly smashing a log... To add two bands to Dream Theater's influences: Rush, Iron Maiden --> DT's first album, When Dream And Day Unite, sounds exactly like a Rush/Iron Maiden cross-over with many Metallica-influences... |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 17:26
Agree with a lot of the milder comments made here - AS you need to expand your horizons and then give it 10 or 30 years. Come back in 2035 and tell us the same, expalin in detail why many other bands should not have the title and I might go along with you . What was that band in Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy who were so loud , that they were forced to put their speakers and amps on a neighbouring moon??? We could have something like that in 2035........................................... |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 17:45
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Well they're hardly gonna put more effort into the sound of the support band are they? |
Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 18:20
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Oy vey, what do we have here?? Someone asking a simple question with a reasonable stake at hand, and the people go ballistic! First of all, we are not being asked if we love Dream Theater. I already stated on another thread that Dream Theater is very polarizing and you either love them or you hate them, usually for the same reasons. I believe the question asked was if Dream Theater would be the best progressive rock band ever. Let's consider the facts: Since 1992's Images and Words, which gained radio airply, singles, music videos, and many, many fans, Dream Theater has consistently pumped out high-caliber music for the masses to enjoy. 6 CDs have been released since I&W, all critcally aclaimed by not just prog-heads, but even by the general public. They have sold out shows across the globe, continue to redefine their sound and their audience, and have recently opened on tour with Yes, quite possibly the current bearer of the title of the best prog band. With the "Gigantour" this summer, Dream Theater will expand its image even farther into the realm of "metal" all the while getting new fans and new appreciation. Say what you will about Dream Theater's new direction (or whole direction in the first place), their presence can't be denied: almost every prog-metal band around now owes something to Dream Theater. Already onto their 8th CD, they show no signs of stopping. One thing I don't seem to understand is the way a lot of people diss any type of modern prog, saying "nothing will ever compare to the classics." This statement doesn't make much sense, because the only seemingly reason these bands are "classic" are because they came first and were commercially succesful enough to garner a following. Nowadays, most bands refuse to cater to the masses, and the ones that do are seen as sell-outs, giving up their talent to make money. And if a band starts out succesfully mainstream (The Mars Volta, Radiohead), they are bashed as not truly being prog for the simple fact that they are succseful commercially...just like these so-called "classics!" But that's an argument for another day. Dream Theater is NOT my favorite band by all means, by they are currently one of the biggest prog-rock bands at this time, there's no denying that. While I do admit if they stay on their current nu-metal-ish path I will be gravely dissapointed, I would't be surprised if Dream Theater became even bigger and joined the ranks with the "classic bands" of the 70s. For my money's worth, though....I already consider them modern classics |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 22:58
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A reasonable question would have been to ask if Dream Theater is a great band, I'm sure there would be many more votes in favour of them. But asking if they are (Or will ever be) the greatest prog' and ever!!!!! is unreasonable and closer to Sci Fi than to reality. Iván
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: April 16 2005 at 23:36
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^ Yeh, first they'd actually have to be a prog band... and thats extremely questionable!! ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 05:14
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i gave the 100th vote for 'no'
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Posted By: henri_ds
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 06:02
Ok, ok, but you know what ? MOST OF THESE BANDS ARE f**kING DEAD !!!! Of course they made some of the best music ever to be created by human beings (especially Floyd and Genesis), I love them, but, the guys that formed these bands are like around 60 years old !!! in 25 years, it's hard to admit but they'll be 6 feet under !!! And what, you want to be looking at the past, for the rest of your days ?! come on, move on, admit that these bands are dead, and stop being so NEGATIVE about bands that aren't 30 years old !!! Look at the future, instead of whining about the past !!!! Bands like DT, PoS, Opeth, Porcupine Tree etc.. ARE the future of prog (and prog metal). face it. If you like them, fine. If you don't like them, or dont WANT to like them, because you dont want to "betray the prog gods of the seventies", well, stay dumb and close-minded. Flame me to death now, I don't f**king care about it. I'm just tired of most members around here, for whom everything after 1979 is pure sh*t. And, they often have the pretention of judging, killing a band, without having listened to it. EDIT: and please, stop comparing DT with older bands. Look, someone starts a thread about DT, and all of you start talking about how good the classib bands are etc..... We are talking about DT, not about DT VERSUS 70's prog. +1 for Deadwing's post. At least someone in here can write a rational statement. amen! |
Posted By: TBWART
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 06:12
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there will be no one greatest. YES, Crimso and Genesis hold the throne. Maybe they will be the greatest neoprog outfit, maybe not. Ever heard a Ayreon album? I don't hear much difference in complexity and beauty.
Some bands are out there all alone, some bands just know how to deliver a decent musical trick. No offence, they are truly great. Not the greatest, and never the greatest. ------------- ''progression is trying to eliminate boundries'' |
Posted By: henri_ds
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 06:15
Well, if DT wont be the *greatest*, who you think will be  ?
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 07:07
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The Beatles for sure will be around for time immemorial. Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull and King Crimson because they created a music revolution. The Beatles because they started the whole thing back in the 60's. Their influence on preceding styles of pop/rock music of most genres is undeniable Cheers -------------
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 09:25
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Dream Theater are probably doing more for Prog right now then any other band at the moment. You can all deny it as much as you want, but how many (ie. me) got into Prog thanks to Dream Theater? Thanks to Dream Theater, I'm now into Yes, Savatage, Mike Oldfield, Marillion, Van Der Graff Generator, Queensryche and many more. |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 09:27
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well there are 17 idiots on this forum by now.... -------------
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 09:57
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Dream Theater are NOWHERE NEAR becoming the greatest prog band in my opinion! Whilst I do like their music, it isn't as memorable as any of the greats of prog; in fact, despite me being a mere 17, I much prefer older prog music (as I imagine many board members are) to any modern prog band out there. I have to say, the same applies to heavy metal and rock in general for myself. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 10:01
Unusually I agree-they are a heavy metal band with Prog sensibilities.Prog metal does not exist.Playing endless hevy metal riffs in different time signatures and throwing in keyboard rambles and the occasional orchestration,does not make you a Prog Rock band! -------------
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Posted By: henri_ds
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 10:27
and MANY more, like you. I thought that the prog community was made of intelligent, rational, open-minded people. Thanks to some guys here, they all proved me wrong. You talk sh*t about everything that's not prog and that is not from the 70s. congrats people, you've just proved your stupidity and ignorance.Many many so-called progheads make themselves an immense joy of dissing with occasional animosity DT, and also other prog bands from the 90s. Why so ? Are you jealous of their success in the prog world ? any other reason ? As someone else said, if I wasn't into DT, I wouldnt' be AT ALL into prog. DT got me into : Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Neal Morse, PoS, Porcupine Tree, Queensr˙che, OSI, LTE, Transatlantic, Planet X, Meshuggah.... |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 11:04
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I thought that the prog community was made of intelligent, rational, open-minded people
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 11:07
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all DT fans who think DT IS the greatest proved stupidity and ignorance.. JUST the progressive metalscene is so widespread.. Almost every DT fan begins and stops with DT.. maybe 2 or 3 more bands.. It's SO irritating to hear "uh dream theatre is tha best" well DT just isn't! -------------
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 11:11
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Your post tells me five things: I) You can use a keyboard
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 11:23
how about that he has registered himself on this site stupid
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 11:52
Your forgetting we all have different opinions. THAT is ignorance. To me, Dream Theater is the greatest band ever. Not just prog, but everything. But hey, that's just my opinion. I don't really care whether you agree or not, because that's how I feel. |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 12:07
ARGH take a look around you! -------------
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Posted By: henri_ds
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 12:24
Well, I cited some other bands, and there are more. I didn't "stop" with DT. DT conducted me into other genres and bands. What you say has no sense.
and what if....that's our f*cking opinion ? Even after having listened to many other bands ? Is there a rule, "DT fans are not allowed to think that their favorite band is the best"  ?I don't know you well enough, but, what if I said, "all Pink Floyd fans(apparently that's your case) who think PF IS the greatest proved stupidity and ignorance..." ? |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 17 2005 at 12:45
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Radoactive Toy wrote:
Good point RT, when somebody askedfor 10 favorite albums, most of the people in the forum answered with at least 6 or 7 different bands, but this a DT fan's list. Dream Theater: When Dream And Day Unite 8 albums by DT, one by another Prog Metal band and only one by a 100% prog artist, don't anybody believe this like too much for a PROGRESSIVE ROCK PAGE? But everyone is entitled to his own taste, that's why the "close minded" (being sarcastic) moderators don't say a word when lists like that are included in a page designed for Progressive Rock. Iván -------------
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