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Rob The Good 
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 Posted: April 13 2005 at 23:21 |
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OF COURSE NOT!
Dream Theater wouldn't exist if it weren't for:
1. Yes
2. Uriah Heep (Prog Metal pioneers I'll have you know)
3. King Crimson
4. Probably a few others
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And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..."
Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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HaroldLand
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 22:53 |
 bluetailfly wrote:
Antisilence,
I really think you should listen to a lot more prog before
creating a ludicrous poll like this. Your love affair with DT
has obviously clouded your mind to the point of near-insanity. I
saw DT open for Yes and while I thought they were darn good, listening
to what followed really put their rather limited range of sound into
true perspective. Yes blew them away. |
i also saw them open for yes, last september, in london ontario.. and
yeah, it was freakin amazing (especially since i was in the third row  ),
but after a while it became just mud... high synth and low power
chords.. an obnoxious singer who runs off stage in the middle of a song
after he's done singing.. don't get me wrong.. the musicianship was
astounding, but when yes came on, their sound was sooo much better.. so
much more texture, much more pleasing to the ears.. not to
mention that the metal heads standing in front of me left after DT was
done 
what a rediculous poll..
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Eddy
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 22:28 |
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they are good, but i think there alreasy over. thats my guess, not a fact dont get angry dt lovers! therefore, there rain is already over, and anyways they would mstill need a better album even though they have some really solid ones. the band to look out for is ozriz tenticles
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ShaggyMcShagg7
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 22:09 |
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Although DT is one of my favorite bands, I cannot say that they are the best or on their way to be the best. I believe its hard to label any progressive rock band "the best" even King Crimson or Yes. I will say that they are the best in the Progressive Metal genre, but certainly not blowing bands such as Symphony X or Queensryche out of the water.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 21:32 |
EL TAM wrote:
| Well, at least they stick to making good music, unlike some other - classic - bands did in their day:
Genesis... (And Then There Were Three... And The Music Worth Nil) Yes (90125... gasp... need... oxygen...) Pink Floyd (Their "Wall" sealed off an era, not an area...) etc. etc. |
They are still young, wait a couple of years and they'll make some crap
But the real point is that maybe they haven't got cheesie yet, but neither they have masterpieces of the size of Foxtrot, Close to the Edge or Wish You Were Here. So thery still are farfrom the greater bands.
EL TAM wrote:
| So, in my opinion, if they remain on the course they have set years ago, as they do now, they can rest assured of having gained a place among the greatest of the greatest. |
Honestly I doubt it, most progheads don't accept them and metalheads believe they are too pompous, so I don't se a chance for them to join the Prog or Metal Pantheon.
Iván
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Moribund
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 04:19 |
Gentle Ronnie wrote:
King Crimson will keep the title of the best band in the history of prog music forever.
Also, I think that DT's best days are over, although the band's members are still doing great.
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King Crimson: best band forever - a provocative, but persuasive claim! King Crimson certainly win for consistency, inventiveness, integrity, influence and historical significance. HOWEVER, recent releases have begun to make me begin to question Fripp's (previously unerring) ability to remove the band from existence rather than release sub-standard material...
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El TAM
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:52 |
Well, at least they stick to making good music, unlike some other - classic - bands did in their day:
Genesis... (And Then There Were Three... And The Music Worth Nil) Yes (90125... gasp... need... oxygen...) Pink Floyd (Their "Wall" sealed off an era, not an area...) etc. etc.
So, in my opinion, if they remain on the course they have set years ago, as they do now, they can rest assured of having gained a place among the greatest of the greatest.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:45 |
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5 Virtuosi?
Maybe one true virtuoso (Jordan Rudess) + three very good musicians + a vocalist who couldn't carry a tune in a bucket live.
If it weren't for Rudess, DT would be just another heavy metal band by now - I consider they began to swing away from prog-rock when Sherinian left. He was the one whose use of keyboards really defined their pre-heavy metal sound.
Again - just my opinion.
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tuxon
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:12 |
antisilence wrote:
Valarius wrote:
Why does Dream Theater have to be innovative to be good?
Everyone says they're not innovative... so what?
You all say they're overrated and receive too much radio-time, yet a band of 5 virtuosos is hardly gonna be playing in pubs are they?
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Am sorry...thats 4 virtuosos.......and a donkey |
Stop bashing Portnoy please, he's not a donkey
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antisilence
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 03:08 |
Valarius wrote:
Why does Dream Theater have to be innovative to be good?
Everyone says they're not innovative... so what?
You all say they're overrated and receive too much radio-time, yet a band of 5 virtuosos is hardly gonna be playing in pubs are they? |
Am sorry...thats 4 virtuosos.......and a donkey
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valravennz
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 23:45 |
DT the greatest prog band ever???
The question everyone should ask themselves is will DT still be remembered in 50 years? I seriously doubt it.
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 23:05 |
I believe that if DT members don't learn that playing complex solos with almost no connection is not the best way to create a coherent composition, they will always be incapable to create well structured music.
We know each and every DT member (Except LaBrie who's voice I can't resist) are very skilled in their respective instruments and can do incredible solos, but that's the best I can say about them, IMO their compositions lack of structure (with a few exceptions),and that's not enough to be a great band.
Iván
Edited by ivan_2068
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eriksalkeld
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 21:42 |
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great band indeed... BUT THERE IS NO WAY IT'S GONNA BE THE GREATEST PROG BAND.... NO CHANCE!!!! only one of the best, along with at least 40 more i guess...
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Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien.
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gok22us
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 21:29 |
They're a great band for sure.........but its really hard to peg a band as the greatest ever, as there are so many different ways you can praise and bash bands
if anyone, i'd say Yes, King Crimson, ELP, or Pink Floyd, but even then you can't really pick one as they're so different.
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Arsillus
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 20:35 |
Even though I enjoy listening to Dream Theater, no way, not in a million years are they on their way to being the best prog band ever. I think they're good, but nowhere close to being the best prog band.
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synthguy
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 20:27 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Best band ever?????
I was just about to start a sympathy thread for all
those who cant tell the difference between Dream Theater
and sh*t!
They play music as if the only instruction they've
ever had is watching the guitar duel set-piece from the
movie "Crossroads" |
Good one! Thanks for 5 minutes of uncontrollable
laughter. ( I'd better cut down on the..err.. cough
syrup)
Peace
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 20:05 |
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Sorry to break your guys' heart, but DT tries WAY to hard to be prog. They are show offs, and their music has no flow.
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Miaugion
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 19:43 |
Whenever I think "DT is the best prog band ever" I listen to "Los Endos" and get kicked back to reality. 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 18:48 |
They already are 
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 16:50 |
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YES, GENESIS, KING CRIMSON, JETHRO TULL, VdGG, ELP, PINK FLOYD AND CARAVAN destroy dream theater
anyone who can beat CLOSE TO THE EDGE or FOXTROT can assume best Prog Band
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