Vinyl

"i was just stating that the Marantz '10B' & Yami 'CT7000' were the best sounding tuners in the world."

You don't know nothing!

Here's the real hierarchy of tuners:

1-Marantz 10B
2-Sequerra day
3-Goldmund Mimesis 4 (you don't know that, eh? my best friend has it and he's the only one in France to possess it, it's THE BEST OF THE WORLD on hifi criterias. It's one of the best source ever, incredible!)It costs 10000 €. This is not the little japanese!!!

After that came the Marantz 7 which is a rare model from 1974, and after comes the Mac, which best are MR67 and MR71. The other good are MR78, MR 82.

And after come all the not too bad japanese from the 80's....

oliverstoned wrote: "i was just stating that the Marantz '10B' & Yami 'CT7000' were the best sounding tuners in the world." You don't know nothing! Here's the real hierarchy of tuners: 1-Marantz 10B 2-Sequerra day 3-Goldmund Mimesis 4 (you don't know that, eh? my best friend has it and he's the only one in France to possess it, it's THE BEST OF THE WORLD on hifi criterias. It's one of the best source ever, incredible!)It costs 10000 €. This is not the little japanese!!! After that came the Marantz 7 which is a rare model from 1974, and after comes the Mac, which best are MR67 and MR71. The other good are MR78, MR 82. And after come all the not too bad japanese from the 80's....

 

Look Oliver

I've been buying & selling gear for over 20 years.Don't try telling me.

High end crap like that doesnt cut in the UK..You see British audio equipment was the best equipment in the world.You are a little arsehole that reads too much & by the looks is obsessed.Stop reading & open your ears.

For god sake man you use a valve amp for rock music.Thats how much a dick you are

what have you froggies produced over the years for the audio industry?hardly anything worth entertaining.

Edited by Karnevil9

Karnevil9 wrote: Radioactive Toy wrote: oliverstoned wrote: Radioactive Toy wrote: hey lets take an look at this.. yeah great teddy also! I've had to buy it all... trade etc... Nice bed! wanna have a go?   Yes Tidy your records up youg man

Ah you could do loveley things with vinyl instead of playing it

You are a little arsehole that reads too much & by the looks is obsessed.Stop reading & open your ears.

One time for all, i don't read any reviews

my ears are much better open than yours

you are in hifi from 25 years and you claim that
tubes can't work for rock?

Tubes are the best in the high, there's no transistor amp in the world better than my jolida!

when a system really works , you can listen as well to opera or led zep, or jazz!

You don't know anything, that's obvious!

oliverstoned wrote: You are a little arsehole that reads too much & by the looks is obsessed.Stop reading & open your ears. One time for all, i don't read any reviews my ears are much better open than yours you are in hifi from 25 years and you claim that tubes can't work for rock? Tubes are the best in the high, there's no transistor amp in the world better than my jolida! when a system really works , you can listen as well to opera or led zep, or jazz! You don't know anything, that's obvious!

 

I don't do i!

I use an Audio reaserch 'SP9'tube pre-amp dork!

If you wanna over drive your power amp tubes or burn out the output transformers belting rock out don't come running.

Your the one who knows nothing

I agree with "Stoned" to some extent. Vinyl is warmer and more listenable. At least 'til 1979. After that, the quality just diminished to low grade vinyl quality and the use of 2nd and 3rd generation master tape copies to press them on for mass marketing. That's why I stuck with the audiophile LPs in the mid 80s where they used high-density virgin vinyl and the studio master tapes for pressing. They made LPs the way they were supposed be made like they did in the 60s and early 70s. Granted, there was a more limited availability in the selection dept on the audiophile LP circuit, but it was worth it. If I had a choice between a vinyl pressed off a 2nd or 3rd generation copy tape and a CD pressed off the studio master tape, I would have to go with the CD. Sorry. I know it's kind of sad, but oh well.

Bad, scratched vinyl is horrible but good, carefully looked after discs blow the a**e off CDs. Buying second hand off ebay is a risk.

The Rega Planar 3 is a great cheap deck but I have really major doubts about the Linn LP12's fidelity though some swear by them ( I inherited a full Linn system and it was absolute sh*te to my ears). I use a Systemdek IIX with Mission 774 Arm and an Ortofon MC in my attic and, in my music room, a Pink Triangle Anniversary with an SME V arm and a Lyra Lydian cartridge which is the utter dog's b*******s (but it cost £4300 7 years ago so it ought to be). I have 800+ albums and still buy new pressings, mainly direct masters on 180g vinyl. They sound WONDERFUL but they cost far more than CDs!!

Guests wrote: I bought an assload of progressive and jazz albums like Rush, Weather Report, Yes, King Crimson...and ALL of them skipped on at least two of the tracks. I was SO pissed that they were all defective in some way or another. I realized why they were so cheap ($2.99 a piece) and why people got rid of them. I would suggest selling your turntable or refraining from buying one, and use the money to buy the records on CD. The only two reasons I could see someone buying vinyl these days is for collecting purposes or for the album art. Album art really took it in the shorts when CDs became the main format for music.

I bet you can fix most of those LP's if you want to. First wash them with water, which is not very hot and with low pressure. Dry them, and get a sharp paper knife. Then carefully make a cut along the track, and I guarantee there's only a slight crack or pop there, where it used to stuck jumping. It might be more difficult to do this kind of a repair on a CD. And at least I manage to ruin CD's scratching them regurally, but I have never in my life managed to ruin a LP. 

If you're not interested in LP repairing hobby activities, please let's negotiate a resonable price and sell them to me! It's heartbreaking to think about poor, molested vinyls. I still have bad feelings about an occasion, when I found a smashed PROCOL HARUM's LP while wandering in a forest...

marktheshark wrote: Vinyl is warmer and more listenable. At least 'til 1979. After that, the quality just diminished to low grade vinyl quality and the use of 2nd and 3rd generation master tape copies to press them on for mass marketing. That's why I stuck with the audiophile LPs in the mid 80s where they used high-density virgin vinyl and the studio master tapes for pressing. They made LPs the way they were supposed be made like they did in the 60s and early 70s.

What do you think about modern vinyl presesses? I bought some LP's at early 90's, and I think the sound on them is great, F.Ex. PETER GABRIEL's "Us" and "Passion". I also have some recent vinyls by ANEKDOTEN, MORTE MACABRE and PAATOS. I must admit that I'm a bit deaf, so I'm not so sensitive about audio quality, but I hear the differences, as I concentrate to listen at it. One of my well-hearing friend is quite interested at the sounds of records, and I have had some listening and debate sessions about this subject.

Keep in mind, the more recent vinyls are nothing more than a CD on vinyl. They're not using the original analog tapes to press these anymore. To preserve those, they're using digital master tapes that were transferred from the analog tapes. Big difference.

Sure! I admit sincerelly that I know almost nothing about the manufacturing of LP's, my opinnions have been formed only by consuming music in different formats. I'm not at home currently, so I can't look at the details from sleeves of the albums I mentioned before, but I guess the early 90's PG recordings were done digitally? I'm not sure about the swedish prog recordings then, they were done by Mellotronen-company few years ago.

Thanks for your informative reply!