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Topic: best neo-prog Posted: April 10 2005 at 22:03 |
I'm just curious what the best neo-prog bands/albums are.
In no particular order, other than in the order of my preferance![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
1. Marillion - Script for A Jester's tear / Fugazi 2. Pendragon - The Window Of Life / The Masquerade Overture 3. Arena - Pride / The Visitor 4. IQ - Dark Matter / Subterranea 5. Fish - Vigil In A Wilderness Of Mirrors / Raingods With Zippo's
Other noteworthy bands Collage, Twelfth Night, Landmarq, pallas, Jadis, and some more.
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 01:59 |
Arena - Contagion
Lands End - Natural Selection
RPWL - Stock
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 02:04 |
1) All Pendragon albums
2)Fish - Raingods with zippos
3)IQ - Dark Matter
4) All Pallas Albums
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 02:45 |
IQ (The Wake,Ever,The Seventh House)
Magenta (Seven)
Marillion (Seasons End)
...and (IF 'Neo prog'):
Flower Kings (Stardust We Are)
Glass Hammer (Shadowlands)
Par Lindh Project (Gothic Impressions,Veni Vidi Vici)
Anglagard (Hybris)
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 02:52 |
1) Marillion - Script...
2) Marillion - Fugazi
3) Twelfth Night - Fact and Fiction (really, this album is SO underrated!)
4) Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
5) Twelfth Night - Live at the Target
6) Twelfth Night - Live and let Live
7) Marillion - Real to Reel
8) IQ - Tales
9) IQ - The Wake
10) Marillion - Brave
...I'm still rediscovering the other neo-prog bands, but so far, none have made it into my top 3, and none of the albums I've listened to seem to be up there with these - but things change over time ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
Special consideration to Spock's Beard and the Enid - although I'm not sure that the Enid really fit into the neo-Prog category. They're really in their own league!
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 15:45 |
Twelfth Night's Fact and Fiction isn't underrated I think, probably less known than they deserve to be.
I only heard of them through this site, and it's definitly a great album![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
A bit punk-influences, particularly on the vocals and lyrics.
I'm still searching for It Bites, it's listed on the archives as Art rock, but from what i've heard it could easily be described as neo-prog. any comments on that?
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 15:48 |
In the 80's : MARILLION
Currently : CLEPSYDRA
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 17:35 |
I'd be curious to hear from each of you when you feel that "neo-prog" ended and "neo-neo-prog" began...
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 17:45 |
Neo prog never ended. the neo stands for a new way of making prog songs in the early eighties, and that template is still in full swing in bands like IQ and Pendragon
So called neo-neo-prog doesn't excist, maybe a different kind of neo-prog that's been made in current days could be regarded as neo-neo-prog, but a better name is in place I think![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 18:04 |
The best of "early" neo-prog in chronological order from 1982 to 1985 :
Twelfth Night - Fact and Fiction IQ - Tales from the lush attic Marillion - Script for a jester's tear Twelfth Night - Live and let Live Pallas - The Sentinel Marillion - Fugazi Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Pendragon - The Jewel
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Posted: April 11 2005 at 22:37 |
Anything by
![](http://www.gep.co.uk/iq/images/iq20deev.jpg)
except for "Nomzamo" and "Are You Sitting Comfortably?", which are seriously uneven, although not without their gems, either.
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 00:38 |
Honestly, Neo Prog' is by far my least favorite prog' sub genre, but still there are some very good releases.
- The Masquerade Overture......Pendragon
- Seven.....Magenta
- Pampered Menial.....Pavlov's Dog
Richard Wrote:
...and (IF 'Neo prog'):
Flower Kings (Stardust We Are)
Glass Hammer (Shadowlands)
Par Lindh Project (Gothic Impressions,Veni Vidi Vici)
Anglagard (Hybris) |
I don't think any of this albums are Neo Prog, especially Anglagard and Par Lindh Project which are obviously 100 times more compex than any Neo Prog' release.
Iván
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 03:16 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
I don't think any of this albums are Neo Prog, especially Anglagard and Par Lindh Project which are obviously 100 times more compex than any Neo Prog' release.
Iván
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If it's 100 times more complex than any Neo-prog release, then it obviously isn't neo-prog ![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
One of the great points about neo-prog is that it realises that "up itself" complexity is unnecessary - something that noodle-hounds don't seem to get. Too many people think that prog should be outrageously complex all the time - although, of course, it's nowhere near as complex or technically advanced as avante-garde jazz or even "classical" (for want of a better word).
Neo-prog rules!
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 03:32 |
IMO Glass Hammer and Anglagard aren't neo-prog. They're symphonic prog or retro prog or post prog but not neo...
Neo-prog has a more accessible, mainstream, poppy... sound. Second
characteristic is that music is often Genesis or Marillion
derivative...
IMO best bands in this genre: Marillion (with Fish), Saga, Collage, Abraxas.
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 04:14 |
The only neo-prog band I really enjoy is Collage/Satellite. It's a bit
more symphonic than your average neo-prog. I still hate the neo-prog
sound they have though.
PS. It's a crime to mention Anglagard in this thread.
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 09:07 |
I think Poland has generated some excellent neo-prog bands all through the 90s: ABRAXAS, COLLAGE, QUIDAM. Their albums are among the best in this sub-genre.
Regards.
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 10:03 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
I think Poland has generated some excellent neo-prog bands all
through the 90s: ABRAXAS, COLLAGE, QUIDAM. Their albums are among the
best in this sub-genre.
Regards. |
Yeah, Abraxas and Quidam are good bands too. The debut album of Quidam
is actually excellent stuff, the best polish album imo. I just don't
find it neo-prog but classic symphonic prog. After that album the band
went sadly downwards when they went more to neo-prog direction.
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 10:47 |
I'm a big fan of Twelfth Night too and actually, now I come to think of
it Solstice who were one of the better bands I saw during the 'New wave
of prog' back in the 80's.
Still trying hard to enjoy Arena. Not quite there yet...
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 11:32 |
Pendragon- The Masquerade Overture
Marillion- Misplaced Childhood
Arena- Contagion
Iq- The Wake
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 11:49 |
just downlaoded an exceptionally good album
Neal Morse - One
absolutely superb, every pendragon fan should here this.
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