...They spit on the face of Rock, No?

Buffalo Springfield

Sorry to get off topic, but the other night at supper, my dad was talking about them. I can't remember the name of the song, but they did write one or two hits.

Strange..

Okey-dokey. Hope we'll get better acquainted in the future.

Peter wrote: FuzzyDude wrote: Peter wrote: FuzzyDude wrote: I agree. Radiohead is a much more intelligent band. Rather a sweeping statement, no? Prove that, if you would. "I like" or "I prefer" does not equate with "better" or "more intelligent." Subjective perceptions don't necessarily reflect REALITY (whatever that is!) I very much doubt my statement has anything to do with your rant against society and it's aesthetic standards. Eh? Which rant was that? No offence, Fuzzy, but I just find such absolute statements as you've made above to be basically indefensible. We are taliking about LIKES, not FACTS. You could be right, but what are the IQs of the individual band members? Do you know? Dream theater are the best prog band ever" is a subjective judgement, and unprovable, but "Dream Theater are my favourite band" can be proven, or at least accepted as truth. That's my point -- words like "best" are bandied about too freely here. Nothing personal -- have a nice day!

There, you did it again. You're letting the aesthetic tastes of others conflict with your objective view of reality. I assume you have some familiarity with the psychiatric school of behaviorism and it's doctrine of every person being studied by their actions. What you are doing is allowing the human notion of subjective 'taste' and the fuzziness of absolute reality to clash with each other. You're assuming that when someone makes a statement, they automatically believe they are in the right. You are not allowing for ideas such as confusion or misdirection being appropriated in their ideologies. And frankly, I'm offended. That implies you feel I'm a nitwit and that somehow my intellect is merely based on societal limitations, such as ethnocentrically inbred artistic forms and a nationalistic sense of beauty. Because I find a band such as Radiohead to possess more original and pleasing ideas than Green Day is no clear indication of of my opinions on anything remotely requiring 'censum concrete' and I would appreciate it if you would take certain things for granted every once in a while. Otherwise, have a good day.

Peter wrote: FuzzyDude wrote: I agree. Radiohead is a much more intelligent band. Rather a sweeping statement, no? Prove that, if you would. "I like" or "I prefer" does not equate with "better" or "more intelligent." Subjective perceptions don't necessarily reflect REALITY (whatever that is!)

I very much doubt my statement has anything to do with your rant against society and it's aesthetic standards.

I believe that to some degree, the stereotype is true: many prog fans are anal-retentive musical elitists.  (If they own two CDs, the discs are shelved in alphabetical, chronological and categorical order....)

EG: "I won't mix songs by different bands on one CD, I always play the full album -- I won't listen to a song out of context," etc.

'Tis just who we are -- it's not necessarily a bad thing, but many here seem to have very narrow musical tastes.

Live and let live -- I worry much more about the environment than I do a successful American punk/pop band.

Rail on, fellow passionate, intolerant progholes....

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arkitek wrote: i must admit i dod like green day and have mostof thier albums but that is only because i have grown up listening to them on the music channels and only in the past 2years have i got into the prog genre!

That's okay. All of us have at least one 'starting band.' Mine... *sighs* was Buffalo Springfield. (I know someone's running a search on them in order to  figure out just how old I am)

Logos wrote: American Idiot is a big load of crap. A hell of a lot better punk rock band: At the Drive-In

YES! Brilliant comment! Get this man a medal!


Green Day = repetitive and simple riffs, the same song written over with different stupid lyrics (the only different one being time of your life, which verges on being an ok song). Terrible albums, especially American Idiot which is the biggest pile of crap i've ever heard by a punk band, suites? keyboards? trying to be something their not and doing it really badly! And those vocals, the same annoying tone on every single track! I hope they either start writing good music or split up soon, either option is doubtful.

I like greenday .. the new record is well done, and the concept is very apparent - unless of course you're an idiot.

 

I dont listen to green day for musical progression, but because its catchy and well written.

Snow Dog wrote: Metropolis wrote: Not liking Green Day is not a sign of conceit.  It's a sign of not liking simple three chord two and a half minute punk pop crap. I dont care that you dont like 'em. The conceit is the superior attitude of you lot!!!!!

Are you saying that prog and it's fans are somehow pretentious and elitist?

American Idiot is a big load of crap.

A hell of a lot better punk rock band: At the Drive-In


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