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Lucifer Sam 
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 Topic: Dark Side of the Moon vs. The Wall
Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:14 |
Dark Side of the Moon is often described as the #1 Floyd classic and I understand that it is honourable if some record stays in Billboard Chart for 714 weeks and drops only after the rules have been changed. But for me, the classic Floyd album is The Wall. The songs are better and the lyrics are based on drugs, dramatic childhood and troubles in relationships. It's more Waters-based than Waters/Gilmour-based, and for me, Roger Waters is mr. Pink Floyd. The Wall is something that I would have wanted to do, but that f***ing Waters had already done it...
So, what do you think, folks?
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Ankaret
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:17 |
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Nah, The Wall has so many moments of jibberish, it's definitely not their best work. For me it's DSOTM, but I truly think their masterpiece was WYWH.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:21 |
Why does it have to be either/or?
There's got to be a more meaningful way to discuss the merits of these two masterpieces.
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Lucifer Sam
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:35 |
If it wouldn't be either/or, this wouldn't be a poll.
And what it comes to WYWH, there is Shine on You Crazy Diamond, then there is Welcome to the Machine and that's all about it.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:43 |
 Lucifer Sam wrote:
And what it comes to WYWH, there is Shine on You Crazy Diamond, then there is Welcome to the Machine and that's all about it.
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Sounds like a personal problem 
Edited by bluetailfly
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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Vegetableman
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:44 |
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For me they are both even, completely even. I prefer Meddle or Animals, though.
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Lucifer Sam
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:50 |
Animals has it's gems and the brightest one of them is Sheep. All the points for Roger's unbelivable voice.
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:51 |
Dark side by far. I skip half of the tracks on the Wall everytime I listen to it.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:58 |
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Of the two i choose the wall. But the best floyd album is deff. Animals or WYWH.
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John Gargo
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 15:18 |
Well what do you know, two of Floyd's most overrated albums... :)
DARK SIDE OF THE MOON suffers because the songs sound too similar to one another... the record slowly goes on its way with very few peaks and exciting moments. Overall it's a very pleasurable experience, but I would have preferred some variety and dynamics... It's simply too monotonous.
THE WALL is ridiculously over-ambitious. A similar idea worked much better with ANIMALS, but here Roger Waters' music collapses under its own massive pretenses... the full length songs are too few for such a massive release, and we've got too many interludes... the songs that ARE there are stupendous though...
So I'm going to go with THE WALL, flaws and all... It's simply a much more exciting record, and the one I turn to the most. DARK SIDE OF THE MOON is a good album, but it has fallen victim to oversaturation and radio overkill... So does THE WALL, but to a lesser extent.
THE WALL it is!
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 15:26 |
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I find ALL floyd albums are overrated. Though I like Floyd and their albums, I just don't think their the bee's knees like everyone else does. I think they're jsut a mediocre band.
If I had to choose between those two, I'd pick DSOTM just for eclipse and breathe and time.
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 16:54 |
The Dark Side of the Moon is a lot more universal and more people can relate. But I have more in common with character from the Wall... but I picked the Dark Side of the Wall because it because I bought it 5 times. *sighs*
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:01 |
I sure with that when I bought dark side of the moon last year (I already had it on record, I just bought the cd because it's remastered, easier to pick up and listen to, and I remember a couple years ago listening to the album on record and not thinking it was a big deal, so i decided I'd buy it on cd to listen to it again, cuz I figured I would like it more now because I'm more into prog) didn't end up coming to 30 bucks. It was a rip-off, an alright album, but I would never have paid 30 bucks for it. It wasn't even the new 30th anniversary remaster, it was the older one. 
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threefates
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:05 |
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I prefer DSOTM as an album. I prefer "Comfortably Numb" as a song.
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terramystic
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:10 |
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Dark Side of the Moon is better as a whole!
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richardh
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:19 |
The Wall has some 'guts' to it.DSOTM on the other hand is just 'safe' MOR/AOR stuff.Harmless enough to sell millions  .
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Yams
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:57 |
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They're two different sounds. The Wall is cold. Dark Side is a trippy space voyage. I like the music on DSotM more.
Edited by Yams
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OldFatherThames
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:58 |
Without a doubt I say DSOTM, but I think this cd is extremly overrated! Better listening to AHM or Meddle 
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Mr.Magoo
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Posted: April 02 2005 at 19:29 |
2 different albums.
Sorry, but for me, no comparison is possible!
DSOTM is waters/guilmour/wright/mason
the wall is waters
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Cluster One
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Posted: April 03 2005 at 04:32 |
Lucifer Sam wrote:
And what it comes to WYWH, there is Shine on You
Crazy Diamond, then there is Welcome to the Machine and that's all
about it. |
Yikes! Never thought I'd see that quote from a FLOYD fan on a PROG site! 
Dark Side of The Moon > The Wall
Reason 1: I said so (all further reasons are therefore unnecessary, but still helpful)
Reason 2: The WHOLE band contributed to the music on "DSOTM", unlike "The Wall".
Reason 3: Roger WATERS' ego was still only galaxy-sized and somewhat
managable in 1973; by the time The Wall was released his ego had
expanded to encompass the entire universe. 
Reason 4: Dark Side doesn't have 'Vera Lynn' or 'Bring The Boys back Home'
Reason 5: Dark Side has a much better album cover
Reason 6: As good as some (most?) of the music is on The Wall, it is
often aimed at a lower audience, i.e. it appeals to the
lowest-common-denominator. Teenagers, Classic Rock fans, housewives,
whatever. Meaning that by trying to appeal to 'everyone' it eventually
appeals to 'no one'. The VAST majority of FLOYD fans do not consider
The Wall as the band's best work, nor their favourite. Ask someone who
is NOT a FLOYD fan (i.e. your typical guitar/classic rock fan) what
their favourite FLOYD album is, and 99% they will say "the Wall". (This
probably has something to do with the fact they probably only own 2
FLOYD albums to begin with)
Reason 7: Dark Side is very reflective with universal themes of time,
life, money, people, and death, whilst The Wall is extremely
angst-ridden, self-conscious, whiny and often down right nasty at times.
Reason 8: Rick Wright, one of the most important elements to the Pink
Floyd 'sound' (pun intended) is conspicuous in his absence on The Wall 
Reason 9: No movies were made of the Dark Side of the Moon (* See note on Roger WATERS' ego above)
Reason 10: Because if I hear 'Another Brick in the Wall' one more time on the radio, I'M GONNA KILL SOMEONE!
Edited by Cluster One
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