Dark Side of the Moon vs. The Wall
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Topic: Dark Side of the Moon vs. The Wall
Posted By: Lucifer Sam
Subject: Dark Side of the Moon vs. The Wall
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:14
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Dark Side of the Moon is often described as the #1 Floyd classic and I understand that it is honourable if some record stays in Billboard Chart for 714 weeks and drops only after the rules have been changed. But for me, the classic Floyd album is The Wall. The songs are better and the lyrics are based on drugs, dramatic childhood and troubles in relationships. It's more Waters-based than Waters/Gilmour-based, and for me, Roger Waters is mr. Pink Floyd. The Wall is something that I would have wanted to do, but that f***ing Waters had already done it... So, what do you think, folks?
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Posted By: Ankaret
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:17
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Nah, The Wall has so many moments of jibberish, it's definitely not their best work. For me it's DSOTM, but I truly think their masterpiece was WYWH. ------------- Links to musical projects coming soon!!! |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:21
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Why does it have to be either/or? There's got to be a more meaningful way to discuss the merits of these two masterpieces. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: Lucifer Sam
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:35
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If it wouldn't be either/or, this wouldn't be a poll. And what it comes to WYWH, there is Shine on You Crazy Diamond, then there is Welcome to the Machine and that's all about it. ------------- Hello, is there anybody in there? |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:43
Sounds like a personal problem ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Lucifer Sam wrote:Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:44
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For me they are both even, completely even. I prefer Meddle or Animals, though.
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Posted By: Lucifer Sam
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:50
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Animals has it's gems and the brightest one of them is Sheep. All the points for Roger's unbelivable voice. ------------- Hello, is there anybody in there? |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:51
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Dark side by far. I skip half of the tracks on the Wall everytime I listen to it. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 13:58
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Of the two i choose the wall. But the best floyd album is deff. Animals or WYWH. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 15:18
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Well what do you know, two of Floyd's most overrated albums... :) DARK SIDE OF THE MOON suffers because the songs sound too similar to one another... the record slowly goes on its way with very few peaks and exciting moments. Overall it's a very pleasurable experience, but I would have preferred some variety and dynamics... It's simply too monotonous. THE WALL is ridiculously over-ambitious. A similar idea worked much better with ANIMALS, but here Roger Waters' music collapses under its own massive pretenses... the full length songs are too few for such a massive release, and we've got too many interludes... the songs that ARE there are stupendous though... So I'm going to go with THE WALL, flaws and all... It's simply a much more exciting record, and the one I turn to the most. DARK SIDE OF THE MOON is a good album, but it has fallen victim to oversaturation and radio overkill... So does THE WALL, but to a lesser extent. THE WALL it is! |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 15:26
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I find ALL floyd albums are overrated. Though I like Floyd and their albums, I just don't think their the bee's knees like everyone else does. I think they're jsut a mediocre band.
If I had to choose between those two, I'd pick DSOTM just for eclipse and breathe and time. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 16:54
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The Dark Side of the Moon is a lot more universal and more people can relate. But I have more in common with character from the Wall... but I picked the Dark Side of the Wall because it because I bought it 5 times. *sighs* |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:01
I sure with that when I bought dark side of the moon last year (I already had it on record, I just bought the cd because it's remastered, easier to pick up and listen to, and I remember a couple years ago listening to the album on record and not thinking it was a big deal, so i decided I'd buy it on cd to listen to it again, cuz I figured I would like it more now because I'm more into prog) didn't end up coming to 30 bucks. It was a rip-off, an alright album, but I would never have paid 30 bucks for it. It wasn't even the new 30th anniversary remaster, it was the older one.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:05
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I prefer DSOTM as an album. I prefer "Comfortably Numb" as a song. ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:10
| Dark Side of the Moon is better as a whole! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:19
The Wall has some 'guts' to it.DSOTM on the other hand is just 'safe' MOR/AOR stuff.Harmless enough to sell millions .
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Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:57
| They're two different sounds. The Wall is cold. Dark Side is a trippy space voyage. I like the music on DSotM more. |
Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 18:58
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Without a doubt I say DSOTM, but I think this cd is extremly overrated! Better listening to AHM or Meddle |
Posted By: Mr.Magoo
Date Posted: April 02 2005 at 19:29
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2 different albums. Sorry, but for me, no comparison is possible! DSOTM is waters/guilmour/wright/mason the wall is waters |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: April 03 2005 at 04:32
Yikes! Never thought I'd see that quote from a FLOYD fan on a PROG site!  Dark Side of The Moon > The Wall Reason 1: I said so (all further reasons are therefore unnecessary, but still helpful) Reason 2: The WHOLE band contributed to the music on "DSOTM", unlike "The Wall". Reason 3: Roger WATERS' ego was still only galaxy-sized and somewhat managable in 1973; by the time The Wall was released his ego had expanded to encompass the entire universe.  Reason 4: Dark Side doesn't have 'Vera Lynn' or 'Bring The Boys back Home' Reason 5: Dark Side has a much better album cover Reason 6: As good as some (most?) of the music is on The Wall, it is often aimed at a lower audience, i.e. it appeals to the lowest-common-denominator. Teenagers, Classic Rock fans, housewives, whatever. Meaning that by trying to appeal to 'everyone' it eventually appeals to 'no one'. The VAST majority of FLOYD fans do not consider The Wall as the band's best work, nor their favourite. Ask someone who is NOT a FLOYD fan (i.e. your typical guitar/classic rock fan) what their favourite FLOYD album is, and 99% they will say "the Wall". (This probably has something to do with the fact they probably only own 2 FLOYD albums to begin with) Reason 7: Dark Side is very reflective with universal themes of time, life, money, people, and death, whilst The Wall is extremely angst-ridden, self-conscious, whiny and often down right nasty at times. Reason 8: Rick Wright, one of the most important elements to the Pink Floyd 'sound' (pun intended) is conspicuous in his absence on The Wall  Reason 9: No movies were made of the Dark Side of the Moon (* See note on Roger WATERS' ego above) Reason 10: Because if I hear 'Another Brick in the Wall' one more time on the radio, I'M GONNA KILL SOMEONE! ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: Lucifer Sam
Date Posted: April 03 2005 at 04:55
If I hear that awful Another Brick in the Wall cover of KoRn one more time on the radio, I would be pleased if someone could kill me...  ------------- Hello, is there anybody in there? |
Posted By: Lucifer Sam
Date Posted: April 03 2005 at 05:00
And that's why I'm loving it... ------------- Hello, is there anybody in there? |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 03 2005 at 05:49
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Dark Side Of The Moon is a brilliant album, though whether it's a prog masterpiece is open to debate. The Wall is Roger Waters whining about how awful it is being a rich, famous rock star. The only good tune was written by Dave Gilmour, who inexplicably decided to play exactly the same solo on every track on the album. If The Wall had been released by any band other than Floyd it would be seen as the plodding, meretricious, sub Andrew Lloyd Webber drivel that it truly is and would be as popular as radioactive dog's eggs. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: April 03 2005 at 06:07
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DSOTM, by far. The Wall has never meant anything special for me.. Pink Floyd made at least five better albums than The Wall.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 13:33
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Dark Side all the way! Wall is just a pop-metal album in comparison. its not even prog ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 16:30
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DSOTM is a stronger, more concise album. The Wall has great moments, mostly musically, like Gilmour's classic "Comfortably Numb" and "Hey You", and other small parts. Still I prefer Animals, Meddle, A Saucerful... and the last two over all the rest. |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:53
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Dark Side, in a landslide ------------- 
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Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 21:27
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I actually like wish you were here the best
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 22:26
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Darkside. I never really cared for the Wall. Besides all the hits/singles off of it, I never really like the rest. |
Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 23:44
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Darkside for sure. My favourite however would be Meddle, Animals or WYWH ------------- Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 00:59
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Dark Side Of The Moon (1973)
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Posted By: jitu
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 01:11
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DARK SIDE OF THE MOON ------------- 
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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 02:02
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dsotm, but it is not even in my top 5 floyd album...(wich probably contains animals wywh, ahm, sos, obc, meddle...oops that's 6 ) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Philrod/?chartstyle=Geldropdown-small"> 
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 15:15
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Boy, this is kinda hard, but I`ll go with the Wall
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 16:01
Surely that's about 60% of the album anyway? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 16:58
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 17:47
I like it cold! The Wall! ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter 
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 18:18
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The Wall is excellent, but DSOTM is A LOT better!!! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 18:34
Uh..?
First bear in mind that Shine takes up something close to half the album! (edit: as has been pointed out already, I really should read the rest of the posts sometimes!) And you seem to be forgetting the title track
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Posted By: Scrambled_Eggs
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 19:30
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DSotM. No contest. ------------- And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime. I never said I was frightened of dying. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 19:58
The Wall is my favorite Pink Floyd album 
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Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 18:37
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couldn't agree more. like you took the words out of my head ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 18:29
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'Dark Side Of The Moon', 'The Wall' can't stand up against this album... ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 17:36
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I love them both - but the truth is I find The Wall padded and depressing. ------------- Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 17:50
| I prefer DSOTM by a slight margin... but I'd rank these two as Floyd's #3 and #4 albums anyway. |
Posted By: Ultaigh
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 17:59
| Dark side of the moon by far. |
Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 18:05
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DSM is great, but I feel too overrated. The Wall for me.
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Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 20:58
| The Wall |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 07:08
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Dark Side of the Moon. It's much shorter, but it has more. A real pleasure as a whole. |
Posted By: Genesisprog
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 07:36
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Dark side of the moon . Wall`s music is slow ,dull.Album is too long.Lyrics give me creeps.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 20:00
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Dark Side of the Moon is my favourite: great athmospheres, excellent lyrics; every song song is a piece of art... The Wall it's maybe one of the most poor, bored and overrated albums that I know... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 20:03
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Deffinatly Darkside. its about 6 or 12 times better..somewhere in between those two constants. ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Wormboy
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 20:13
 You "would have wanted to do" the Wall? Ha!The Wall is a great album, but it widely agreed that it is mostly a Waters solo album, with some bright spots from Gilmour. If that's what floats your boat, fine. But the Wall is decidely less proggy than earlier Floyd albums, and you are unlikely to get a lot of support for Wall>Moon on this Prog forum. Not to detract from the Wall, which is indeed great. But DSotM was one of the most innovative albums of all time, while the Wall was just excellent but not particularly innovative (yes, it is tortured soul great lyrics at their best, but is it really that different from much earlier rock operas, like the Who's "Tommy?" Not really). Music and Art historians generally assess a work not by it's overall "quality" in a vacuum, but by it's quality in comparison to what had gone before and what was happening at the time. For example, you look at certain paintings and say "Meh, it's fine, but not all that great". But then you look at them in their context and realize that they were innovative geniuses who were totally unique. By this standard DSotM was one of the most innovative, influential and unique albums of all time--up there with the likes of Sgt. Pepper's and Never Mind the Bollocks for albums that changed the course of history. So in my mind DSotM is hands-down the winner. |
Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 11:04
| The wall is mostly boring and dark side becomes boring and predictable after the 15th listen. Some songs there may be heard with no harm even after decades, but Money, time, the great gig in the sky, and on the run...even Us and them are something I canīt bear listening to. They are just too obvious. |
Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 11:12
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Both Kick Ass in my opinion but I have to go with Dark side because the wall only has gems (comforatably numb and good-bye blue sky) and primarily is Rodger Walters moaning about his childhood which continutes into The Final cut (an album I beileve for people who thought the wall was to short) whilst Dark Side is a complete gem. ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: Syndromet
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 11:36
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DSOTM -------------  It is said to be the first Test-pressing of the corean release??
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Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 12:40
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WYWH is better than both.
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Posted By: Gronostay
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 14:12
| i love both, byt DSOTH is much better. the wall is for me maybe the fifth favourite album, DSOTM is the first |
Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 11:29
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Wish You Were Here is my favourite because of Shine On and Welcome To the Machine and Have a Cigar, but DSOTM is the better album- the songs are really stronlyl defined and have no uncertain or indefinite points in them. It's an album that you have to listen to the whole thing at the same time or the songs feel somewhow incomplete and out of place. ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 17:43
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Dark Side of the Moon and to be quite honest The Wall has never been a pleasure to listen to for me ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 17:52
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DSotM -------------  |
Posted By: moncholo
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 18:28
| TDSOM is their real sh*t.... the wall was just made with the intention to sell.. |