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Poll Question: METALLICA in the archive ? the white album is their best prog album ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 20:55
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

HAPPY APRIL'S FOOL !

 

AHAHAHAHAHA we shoulda known!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 21:43
I couldnt believe you were serious, maybe 1 metallica album but all there 90's stuff pop, nu-metal almost i like there older stuff  Ride the lightning but it isnt really progressive...maybe call of ctulu
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 22:14

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 22:26
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Max:

April Fool's it may be.  But one thing this joke showed: just how many people think Metallica are prog and should be included!  About 50%!!  Yikes!  It's a good thing you reserve such decisions to yourself, and don't go specifically by democratic vote!  Thanks for being a benevolent dictator!!!

Peace.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2005 at 22:33

THE ONLY METAL ORIENTED BAND OF THE 80'S I KNOW THAT COULD BE HERE IS MERCYFUL FATE!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 00:11


I have to say you had me there. But the joke's on all the people who said "Yeah add them!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 00:39
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

HAPPY APRIL'S FOOL !

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 01:40
The level is getting lower and lower here...
Hope it's a joke...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 02:27

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

The level is getting lower and lower here...
Hope it's a joke...

It is a joke. Look above.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 03:03
I LOVE Metallica but it cannot fit in this site... do you think it can do along with classics like genesis? yes? or new prog like dream theater? spock's beard?  Also, if metallica enters the archives, then you should have to add hundreds of metal bands!!! (Megadeth, Death, Destruction, Kreator, Suicidal Tendencies?.. you don't want to do it don't you? then you should have to visit www.metalstorm.ee).... i'm not saying metallica doesn't have prog influences, they managed to do such great songs like Orion, Master of Puppets, And Justice fo All, The Call of Ktulu, Fade to Black, The Frayed ends of Sanity, To live is to Die, One and some others, but they ARE NOT a prog band, not because you find some irregular songs in metal, i'm saying, with various parts and riffs not easily to be made in this genre, they would be necessarily prog... We're talking just about SOME songs taken out from just 4 albums of the 10 albums!!! they've taken out in 20 years... please.... Metallica can't be added in this site's PROG archives. Please don't!! by the way if you think Metallica does prog, try Megadeth, IMO they're better than Metallica, though Metallica are one of the most important bands in Rock / Metal history.
Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 03:06
HAHAHAHAHAHHAA I HAD JUST READ THE FIRST REPLIES!!!! HAHA GOOD JOKE, BUT ALSO A GOOD EXPERIMENT, HAIL METALLICA!!!!.....not to be added here....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 03:15
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

The level is getting lower and lower here... Hope it's a joke...


It is a joke. Look above.



Ok
That's cool.
Hope it's a joke from Dream Theatre too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 04:06

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4754&a mp;PN=3&TPN=2

Plodder wrote a very interesting comment in his third post on that page, I think you might want to check it out, Oliver...

Although I can already see where the next flame is going to shoot up from...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 04:06

arses



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 04:10

Nice one Max!Clap

I haven't been caught for years, but you got me fair and square there.EmbarrassedLOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 04:18
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

This is why I have always felt that a band should not be included on the site simply because they happen to make one, or even two, albums that are (or might be considered) "prog."  A band should not be included on the site unless the majority of its output over an extended period is "prog": i.e., the "ratio" system.  Or, at very least, there is a clear, broad acceptance that a band is, in fact, prog.

Maani,

Just to follow up on your point, I'm not at all comfortable with the ratio idea. As others have pointed out, that could lead to bands such as Genesis et al being excluded. The "broad acceptance" idea is better, but necessarily more woolly.

I would say any band which has made prog albums over a period of time (i.e. not just a one off) should qualify, regardless of whether or not they later (or earlier) strayed.

To give you an example of why ratios would not work, lets say 50% (for arguement's sake) of Genesis albums were prog, and the required ratio is 75%, they would not qualify. If however they had changed their name after Hacket left to say "Then there were three", Geneiss would then qualify, and TTWT would not.Confused

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 04:35
i kind of lost faith in this forum because many people actually took this serious and defendet metallica
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 05:02
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Loads of people STILL complain about Radiohead - but few seem to mind Uriah Heep.

You can please some of the people some of the time...

Cert,

I can understand, and sympathise with your point re Radiohead. You are however guilty of constantly doing the same thing with Uriah Heep! Confused

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 05:03

Originally posted by Alfi Alfi wrote:

i kind of lost faith in this forum because many people actually took this serious and defendet metallica

 

Some people here did consider some of Metallica's efforts slightly prog, and Certif1ed only pointed out that many prog metal bands are inspired by them. That's it. Other than that 90% of the people who posted were against its being included in the archives. And as for the poll results, multiple votes were allowed and people just started joking about with this option, hence so many votes for Metallica.

So don't lose your faith in the Archives just yet, Alfi.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2005 at 05:45
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4754&a mp;PN=3&TPN=2


Plodder wrote a very interesting comment in his third post on that page, I think you might want to check it out, Oliver...


Although I can already see where the next flame is going to shoot up from...



"Celebrate the different moods, colours and textures contained in our progressive tastes. Don't spend your time hating someones personal tastes."

Yes, but DT is not prog, so it can't be a part of our progressive tastes.
It's out of category!
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