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AreYouHuman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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Absolute Elsewhere – “In Search
of Ancient Gods” (based on the occasionally discredited writings of Erich von
Daniken)
David Bedford – “The Odyssey”
Bo Hansson – “The Lord of the
Rings”
Anthony Phillips – “1984”
Jan Hammer – “The First Seven
Days”
Steve Hackett – “A Midsummer
Night’s Dream”
Dave Greenslade – “The
Pentateuch of the Cosmogony”
Gordon Giltrap – “Visionary”
(based on William Blake’s works)
Tom Newman – “Bayou Moon”
Tom Newman – “Aspects”
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Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously.
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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^ I know what you mean, there's just too much stuff out there. I think KE is worth a bit of time to investigate though (and you can hear all their albums free on Bandcamp).
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aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
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^ Karda Estra, one of these bands I always liked to investigate further but never found time...
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Voivode Dracula by Karda Estra: Really conjures up that dreamy, disturbing eroticism. Has wordless singing, which - like Dean said - I don't think takes away from it being "instrumental".
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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Though not a household name around here, Spanish RIO/Avant outfit October Equus have released a truly outstanding instrumental concept album about Lord Franklin's doomed expedition in search of the North-West Passage, by the apt title of Permafrost: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42045. You can also find a review of it on my blog.
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Svetonio ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
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Maybe they will make an album with a so short singing part that the album could be called *instrumental* - in my opinion of course; e.g. imo Albedo 0.39 is an instrumental album although there are some nicely recorded spoken words in the title track and of course these, say, very short and charming "preludes" created by spoken words that you can hear between the tracks. Regarding that "ambient" thing, I think that in PF case it could be anything. Personally, I would like to hear new PF in a psychedelic / post-rock style.
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Argonaught ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 04 2012 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 1413 |
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I wish, but ... ... Polly Samson (spelling?) and Durga-something got involved, which means there shall be lyrics and they shall be duly sung, so it won't be a purebred instrumental album. Also I read the style going to be "ambient"; I don't know if ambient music can be shaped into a concept album? Perhaps .. but not in the proggy sense.
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aliano ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 01 2013 Location: A musty corner Status: Offline Points: 264 |
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I think Days Between Stations debut is a concept Album based on a novel by Steve Erickson.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29332 |
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ignoring the Breathalyser ![]() (which is a good idea)
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prog4evr ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Wuhan, China Status: Offline Points: 1455 |
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Rick Wakeman's Criminal Record (1977)
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that opens up another can of worms as there is a spoken section (the title track). Also what is the concept? ( I genuinely don't know although I suppose it could just be 'Planet Earth' perhaps?)
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Svetonio ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
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If Pink Floyd will release a new album as an instrumental & "back to basis" album as it was announced as well, it gonna be produced as an instrumental concept album, methinks.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Love that album.
My favorite concept instrumental album, Marscape! http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15293 Edited by Slartibartfast - July 20 2014 at 17:06 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18480 |
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Djam Karet's A Night For Baku
The band's Wiki entry has a line that handily explains the title: "The title derives from Japanese folklore: the Baku are mythical inhabitants of the dream world, valiant warriors who devour nightmares as the spoils of battle." |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Naivety perhaps, but not child like. As a "composer" (I use that term very loosely) I may have a melody or hook to play around with but generally start with an idea of where I want to go with it - a game-plan or a story board perhaps. It's like with writing - I have written two novels, both of them episodic in that I wrote them live online, publishing each chapter as I wrote them. Personally I could not have done that without a conceptual story-board and extensive plot and character notes to guide me through the process. The world is full of badly conceived and executed novels without me joining in. I'm sure other authors can do without all that, but when you're working without an editor and/or a proof-reader to keep a sanity check on what you are producing mostly that results in a glorified mess. I guess you like that unstructured approach, but for me it rarely results in a satisfactory novel - I dislike cut-ups and 'stream of unconsciousness' ramblings - it's too hit or miss and often is simply "miss". Gonzo is an amusing character in The Muppets, it's not a writing style that I adhere to or particularly admire. Similarly, music has structure for a reason. Too many "bedroom" composers just noodle around on the keyboard and it shows - music that rambles and goes no-where, melodies that fail to develop or resolve and often only end when the tape runs out (so to speak) - that is not even improvisation, it's just noodling. Noodling is for finger and brain exercise and personal amusement, it's something I do when I've a free moment to just play and enjoy myself, it's not for public consumption. The world could be improved if some artists kept their meandering noodling to themselves - we don't need to hear every note they play in their lifetime. When I produced my "Pilgrim" album I developed the initial idea into a concept and spent hours in research long before I wrote a single note. This involved not only re-reading Pilgrim's Progress, but also in researching the history behind it and trying to understand the concepts Bunyan was putting across in the book and my impression of it - so rather than re-tell the story, I took a different tack and tried to convey Mr Valiant-for-Truth's journey to the Celestial Country in music - each part of the journey was carefully considered, I knew the mood and feeling I wanted in each piece even if the tune or melody eluded me until I pressed the first note of the first bar. How successful that was as a finished album is immaterial - it started with the concept and pulled themes from all directions but all with a clear plan of where it was going and how it would end. [As I have said before, it's not one of my favourite albums - it simply strayed too far from the kind of music I set out to create 50 albums earlier - it's pseudo-classical and that's not the music I wanted to make when I started - I don't dislike the music or the finished product, I simply became disillusioned by the style of music my writing developed into - that was the "naked lunch" moment for me if you like] Of course I cannot say that is how all artists compose because clearly every artist is different and we all have our own preferred way of working, but I would be surprised if the majority just winged-it and made it up as they went along. So, I've partly explained the backstory to my 50th album and I have stated was a instrumental concept album by design - it is now impossible for you to listen to it (the name above is a link to a free download if you're interested) without knowing that. You can of course ignore the concept and just listen to the notes, it doesn't change anything. ![]() |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I had given a curt reply to this but since have changed my mind so have deleted that post in favour of this more considered response: I've not so much changed my mind as actually looked at the circumstances of my advice to you to "stop being a dick" and the flow of conversation that lead up to it, which I still believe is fully justified. I don't think I could have found a better example of your trollish attitude if I tried. After some pointed discussion on the nature of unsigned artists with limited web-presence, a member of the Math Rock team voiced an opinion that Gravitsapa could fit in Math Rock, to which you acted as if that was a done-deal- so I posted:
to which your snippy retort was "Let the reviews speak for the music" - in light of the previous discussion in that thread I believed then that was a dickish response, and I still do (I'm certainly not going to apologise for saying it - I could have chosen a more erudite wording, but the sentiment remains). Democracy it seems is a vague concept to you, as is the means by which we evaluate and add artists to the Archive. The Suggest New Bands may be your favourite sub-forum, but you are far from our favourite band suggester. You moan that we take so long to evaluate a band yet continue to flood us with more inappropriate suggestions so we can no longer cope with the backlog. Whether you like it or not, we're never going to add every Bandcamp artist you suggest, and given your appalling track record we're never going to add a band based upon your word alone - we listen to every suggestion and evaluate them as teams. As you so rightly point out, I'm nether an Admin nor on an evaluation team so that's not my responsibility any more - however when you suggested the band it was and it was a role I took very seriously until you turned up. So after much procrastination and deliberation Gravitsapa was eventually added last month, not in Math Rock as you suggested but to RIO/Avant-Prog. Not a fast response by us by any means and something that perhaps needed to be looked at, (reducing the number of silly suggestions would help), however the Admin team have since promoted Luca to a senior role in the ZART team so things can only improve. Since then we have been waiting for these fabled "reviews [to] speak for the music", and to date both their albums have amassed a total of two ratings a piece (and no reviews) - these blistering 5-star review-less ratings have come from yourself and Sasha Jabovsky, guitarist and vocalist of Gravitsapa. There is of course no rule against that, an artist is free to review and rate their own work here and I would be disappointed if the person who suggested the band didn't review at least one of their albums, such is the nature of democracy, but the lack of "fan" reviews does not look good (it looks abysmal to the point of being uncomfortably embarrassing). That is not a situation that makes us happy at all and goes to emphasise the points we have been making regarding unsigned artists and artists with little or no web-presence outside the rarefied atmosphere of Bandcamp. Not every Bandcamp artist is suitable for this site. It's a hard and uncomfortable reality, but a reality none-the-less - we are not here to promote artists, we are here for the fans to write reviews. So, ignore me all you like, that's nothing new, you've ignored me when I've been polite and you've ignored me on the one occasion I've broken the pretence of polite behaviour and spoken my mind. I will try to ignore you in Band Suggestions and in the Bandcamp Recommendations thread that you've successfully managed to turn into a mockery all by yourself - what was once a decent thread is now one where no one cares what you post. In recent times I've spoke out against your flood of pointless YouTube videos, and now I chose to voice my opinion on your flood of pointless album cover images - whenever I see a succession of posts by you in a thread my heart sinks, for the love of Prog please do not turn every thread into a repeat of the Bandcamp Recommendations thread. Restrain yourself, add an opinion of your own that you didn't read from Wikipedia or Bandcamp description, tell us what YOU think. You're smart and you have a brain, why not use it? Being erudite is not a negative trait, however, having knowledge and not sharing it is. peace out. ciao. Edited by Dean - July 20 2014 at 11:48 |
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