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CryoftheCarrots 
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 Topic: TOOL.......prog?
Posted: December 07 2005 at 21:29 |
 aapatsos wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
s1ipp3ry wrote:
I would say Tool could be prog if they wanted to go that way but I wouldn`t consider them as prog so far . All great prog bands need a wicked keyboard player I think thats where Tool fall short. so I would call Tool Alternative Metal and I`d put them in the same genre as say porcupine tree and the mars volta  |
Having keyboards in your music doesn't necessarily make you prog.
And not having keys in your music doesn't mean you aren't prog.
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Yeh I agree as well.Thats just dumb & narrowminded to state that as a requirement of prog.
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 20:36 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
s1ipp3ry wrote:
I would say Tool could be prog if they wanted to go that way but I wouldn`t consider them as prog so far . All great prog bands need a wicked keyboard player I think thats where Tool fall short. so I would call Tool Alternative Metal and I`d put them in the same genre as say porcupine tree and the mars volta |
Having keyboards in your music doesn't necessarily make you prog.
And not having keys in your music doesn't mean you aren't prog.
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 20:34 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I like them ... but I don't have any of their albums, and I never get around to buy one. I'll set up a ebay search for aenima and lateralus.
BTW: Do they still tour? As far as I know, they've ben put "on hold" because APC takes precedence.
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Yes,they are still touring.Their new album Teleincision should be out this year and the band Isis is already rumored to be the opening act.And while Maynard James Keenan has stressed emphatically that APC is NOT a side project he has also stated that is his main band and takes precedence over everything.
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WHAT? WHEN IS THE ALBUM COMING OUT?
I LOVE AENIMA AND LATERALUS, rest of their albums are interesting but not at this level.
definitely PROG, no doubt about this
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 15:03 |
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Cygnus
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:16 |
They Certainly are...!!!!!
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 17:14 |
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Of course they're prog. For a start, you can hear the progression in
their own work, from Opiate to Lateralus. Also, they're progressing the
style of music they're playing in, doing their own thing, etc. ANd they
rule supremely.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 23:21 |
s1ipp3ry wrote:
I would say Tool could be prog if they wanted to go that way but I wouldn`t consider them as prog so far . All great prog bands need a wicked keyboard player I think thats where Tool fall short. so I would call Tool Alternative Metal and I`d put them in the same genre as say porcupine tree and the mars volta |
Having keyboards in your music doesn't necessarily make you prog.
And not having keys in your music doesn't mean you aren't prog.
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Lateralus_66
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 23:20 |
Of course...  The best prog, if I might add...
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 22:34 |
Yes!!! - Lateralus is their most prog effort yet.
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Don Quito
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 20:43 |
I believe they are without any question...
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Mad Bass Player
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 20:25 |
Of course Tool is prog!
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 20:00 |
I would say Tool could be prog if they wanted to go that way but I wouldn`t consider them as prog so far . All great prog bands need a wicked keyboard player I think thats where Tool fall short. so I would call Tool Alternative Metal and I`d put them in the same genre as say porcupine tree and the mars volta
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 19:49 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Definitely prog.
I'll go against the general consensus here a bit though, and say that I think Ænima is a better album than Lateralus.  |
I love Aenima but it has some filler that I don't care for,namely Ions and Message to Harry Manback.
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 19:46 |
Definitely prog.
I'll go against the general consensus here a bit though, and say that I think Ænima is a better album than Lateralus.
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 18:55 |
DEFINITELY PROG
They even have parts where you can hear some RUSH influences...
search it...
Lateralus is one of the most complete records I have ever heard
NEW PROG of course, but still PROG
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 18:52 |
CryoftheCarrots wrote:
I would challenge anyone who calls Tool boring,to see them live.I saw them whilst touring the Lateralis album and they were the most awe inspiring band I've ever seen and heard.I think the live versions of the Lateralis album were even better.Definately a prog band.Danny Carey has to be considered one of the best drummers around. |
I have seen them once on the Undertow tour,twice on the Aenima tour,and twice on the Lateralus tour.Every single time I have seen them they were perfect.I mean FLAWLESS.The best live band I have ever seen,bar none.Every aspect of them live was perfection,performance,the mix and sound,the show..everything.
And I am a huge Danny Carey freak.
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 18:48 |
I would challenge anyone who calls Tool boring,to see them live.I saw them whilst touring the Lateralis album and they were the most awe inspiring band I've ever seen and heard.I think the live versions of the Lateralis album were even better.Definately a prog band.Danny Carey has to be considered one of the best drummers around. 
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foxman
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 18:44 |
Parker wrote:
2 words... not prog... shouldn't be |
thats 4 words BTW. I just got my first Tool disk yesterday...Lateralus. I don't think I am qualified to votee, but if pressed I would say Prog Metal.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 18:31 |
I dont know enough Tool to coment but Andrew Vernon, $7:00 is more like £3-4 than 5
And Mike, I agree with your theory about some bands on this site.
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Andrew Vernon
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 18:27 |
The word Progressive would indicate something that pushes a thing
forward, so whether Tool or their fans like it or not, I'm gonna call
them prog - simply because they DO push things forward.
Now I don't know where you get boring from, you can say they are not your cup of tea, but boring crosses a line for me.
Just so you know, Teleincision is a rumour started by a fan. No one
knows anything about the new album yet apart from that it's been
finished recording. I would estimate a February or March release.
They have two DVD releases of Parabola and Schism coming out in
December. Amazon.com has them for $6.99 - roughly £5.00 a piece. I will
definitely be getting them, they're rumoured to have remixes of the
songs on them and I would love to have the videos in hi quality, not
the really sh*tty quality I have them in now from the internet.
My favourite band. I started to learn guitar two years ago because of
their powerful music. I really don't understand the boring comment, I'm
too much of a Tool-junkie to even contemplate understanding it. 
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