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    Posted: July 09 2012 at 12:55
Hot Chip
La Roux
are synth pop in my tiny mind
Help me I'm falling!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 15:02
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ Goldfrapp comes closest I think
 
Second Decay could qualify as well...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 12:42
^Wildest Wish to Fly is the one I'm still missing.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 06:22
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:



Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I was working at a used book store in high school when Immunity came in.  Phil Collins was a guest on it.  It was what I'd consider proggy synth pop.




Immunity is a fun album.  Waving Not Drowning is even better.  Been meaning to get his other album too. 


I didn't know there was another Hine album out there.  My second one is Wildest Wish To Fly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 06:10
I actualy did listen to a lot of that, back then. Ultravox, Japan, Duran Duran, Yellow Magic O, ( Depeche Mode later)
 
But Japan and Depeche Mode are the only,  I came to like enough to get into my own collection, especial Japan.
 
After the disapointment with "Brilliant Trees" I still remember how trilled I was when Sylvian started working with Fripp on Alchemy - An Index Of Possibilities and even more when i got Gone to Earth.
 
 
 
 


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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 06:03
Yup. Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 05:54
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^ Sure - both New Wave and Post Punk are umbrella terms that can cover practically anything from 1977 onwards (though New Wave as a name ceased to be appropriate once it became mainstream .... and old Wink) - bands did not need to use synthesisers to be called New Wave or Post Punk whereas Synth Pop generally (not a golden rule) did not use guitars... Tubeway Army were a New Wave band that went from Punk Rock to Post Punk over their short career but were not Synth Pop - Gary Numan's first release under his own name (The Pleasure Principle) was "their" first Synth Pop album (and is the only album where he doesn't play guitar).
 
After reading the article,I think I got it.
Its part of new wave, but with a strong focus on Syntz (no Talking Heads, Cure or U2 allowed, too guitar based Big smile)  
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^ Sure - both New Wave and Post Punk are umbrella terms that can cover practically anything from 1977 onwards (though New Wave as a name ceased to be appropriate once it became mainstream .... and old Wink) - bands did not need to use synthesisers to be called New Wave or Post Punk whereas Synth Pop generally (not a golden rule) did not use guitars... Tubeway Army were a New Wave band that went from Punk Rock to Post Punk over their short career but were not Synth Pop - Gary Numan's first release under his own name (The Pleasure Principle) was "their" first Synth Pop album (and is the only album where he doesn't play guitar).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 05:10
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I like "Everything but the Girl" & "Massive Attack" & "Depeche Mode" but i have no idear if that would fit this genre.
Im an ignorant when it comes to genre catagories (thanks GOD)
For me it is a matter of chronology rather than categories, with Synth Pop occupying a period from 1977 through to about 1985 - the style of music after that period diversified too much to be a single category or genre and is known broadly as Electronica. EbtG and Massive Attack do not fit into the time-line as "Synth Pop" ... even though EbtG were an early 80s bands, they did not move into electronica until the late 80s/early 90s (after working with Massive Attack as it happens).
Reading the article my favorite would be this (find it hard to use the term POP here)
I think of this kind of music as New Wave or POST PUNK
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 05:07
^ Goldfrapp comes closest I think
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 04:46
^ Erm...I'm 50 and synth pop was circa 1980(ish) and I've never heard what purports to be new or contemporary synth pop (is there such a beastie oh firm and fruity youthful pear?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 04:34
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'm old enough to remember there was no such thing as 'old fashioned' synth popUnhappy
it is an oxymoron

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 04:11
I'm old enough to remember there was no such thing as 'old fashioned' synth popUnhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 04:08
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I like "Everything but the Girl" & "Massive Attack" & "Depeche Mode" but i have no idear if that would fit this genre.
Im an ignorant when it comes to genre catagories (thanks GOD)
For me it is a matter of chronology rather than categories, with Synth Pop occupying a period from 1977 through to about 1985 - the style of music after that period diversified too much to be a single category or genre and is known broadly as Electronica. EbtG and Massive Attack do not fit into the time-line as "Synth Pop" ... even though EbtG were an early 80s bands, they did not move into electronica until the late 80s/early 90s (after working with Massive Attack as it happens).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 03:43
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

[QUOTE=Dean][QUOTE=Atavachron]Gabriel's second was musical suicide, which is what people liked about it. 
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I think its a Masterpiece 
Fripps production sounds a bit dated, but the music is wonderfull. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 03:40
I like "Everything but the Girl" & "Massive Attack" & "Depeche Mode" but i have no idear if that would fit this genre.
Im an ignorant when it comes to genre catagories (thanks GOD)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2012 at 03:35
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Fade Away is one of those strange little pre-80s moments where we see a glimmer of interesting music before the suits got their grimy hands on things and ruined the whole decade... BTW which one's Pink?
'Fade Away and Radiate' is the highlight of the album for me - I loved that track when I first heard it as the flip-side to 'Picture This', that the album didn't contain more music in that direction was a disapointment.
 
That whole sequence of events is a fascinating glimpse of the music business vs. the artists at that time, starting with Fripp joining Bowie and Eno in Berlin for the "Heroes" sessions to him moving to New York and finding the GBGB new wave scene that resulted in the Exposure project, which was subsequently stymied by "the suits" at every turn, starting with Gabriel's second album being described by the US record label as musical suicide, Daryl Hall's Sacred Songs being shelved for three years by RCA because it "wasn't commercial" and the difficulties in recording the final part of the trilogy. I've just read that he wanted Debbie Harry to do a cover of Donna Summer's 'I Feel Love', a song that Eno described during the Berlin sessions as " the sound of the future". In talking about Exposure Fripp said: "What I was trying to do in the original trilogy was to investigate the 'pop song' as a means of expression ... I think it's a supreme discipline to know that you have three to four minutes to get together all your lost emotions and find words of one syllable or less to put forward all your ideas. It's a discipline of form that I don't think is cheap or shoddy."
Yes, and I like the quote; some even tried their darndest to do that (Gary Numan,Simple Minds,Cocteus,Robert Plant).   Gabriel's second was musical suicide, which is what people liked about it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2012 at 17:43


Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I was working at a used book store in high school when Immunity came in.  Phil Collins was a guest on it.  It was what I'd consider proggy synth pop.




Immunity is a fun album.  Waving Not Drowning is even better.  Been meaning to get his other album too. 



Edited by The Doctor - July 06 2012 at 19:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2012 at 17:00
 
Zappa alumnis !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2012 at 04:26
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Fade Away is one of those strange little pre-80s moments where we see a glimmer of interesting music before the suits got their grimy hands on things and ruined the whole decade... BTW which one's Pink?
'Fade Away and Radiate' is the highlight of the album for me - I loved that track when I first heard it as the flip-side to 'Picture This', that the album didn't contain more music in that direction was a disapointment.
 
That whole sequence of events is a fascinating glimpse of the music business vs. the artists at that time, starting with Fripp joining Bowie and Eno in Berlin for the "Heroes" sessions to him moving to New York and finding the GBGB new wave scene that resulted in the Exposure project, which was subsequently stymied by "the suits" at every turn, starting with Gabriel's second album being described by the US record label as musical suicide, Daryl Hall's Sacred Songs being shelved for three years by RCA because it "wasn't commercial" and the difficulties in recording the final part of the trilogy. I've just read that he wanted Debbie Harry to do a cover of Donna Summer's 'I Feel Love', a song that Eno described during the Berlin sessions as " the sound of the future". In talking about Exposure Fripp said: "What I was trying to do in the original trilogy was to investigate the 'pop song' as a means of expression ... I think it's a supreme discipline to know that you have three to four minutes to get together all your lost emotions and find words of one syllable or less to put forward all your ideas. It's a discipline of form that I don't think is cheap or shoddy."
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