Progressive rock: a man's genre?

CPicard wrote: But, at the end, the truth is that your "progressive rock scene" is a dead scene on the modern stage of music: for many, progressive rock died with the arrival of Punk and New Wave. Your music died in 1976 and no one cared about the burial. But you feel the need to claim your love for a genre that just a minority cares about: most of you are WASP, middle-class young men, you worship Rush, you fancy heroic-fantasy, badly written "SF", you still have your D&D books, you think you are an elite or a "persecuted minority" for loving this genre... No wonder no one wants to join your club. Over the couple of years I spend on this forum, I've seen:  - debates about the superiority of progressive rock upon other musical genres;  - a thousand stupid, needless polls about "Make your dream band", "Who's the best singer", "Yes, Genesis or Rush?" (hello, Gandalff, too much free time?) - Christian propaganda Vs. the most stupid atheist in the world (hello, Mike, need fibers?) - Libertarian propaganda (hello, social darwinism) - aginor destroying English linguage; - Henry Plainview - and I just need to type this sole name to feel disturbed; - the inability to understand that AVANT-GARDE IS NOT A f**kING GENRE, MORONS! Go read a dictionary! - the GURLS (PA needs more women). Oh, yeah, women. The girls. The chicks, the "shes". They have short attention spans. They only care for the melodies. They are irrational. They can't understand the superiority of progressive rock. They can't drum. And, now, biological hypothesis, handled by semi-savant monkeys launched on internet, fed from Wikipedia, without anyone to punch them in the face while they obviously need it. I have enough of this zoo. This hell. I can't stay on this forum without having bursts of irritation: I stopped lurking on the Christian/Agnostic threads, the Libertarian thread - and even most of the musical threads. But it's not enough. I have to get the hell out of here. Women don't care about your f**king progressive rock music, because men don't care about it. No one cares about it. No one cares about YOU.

LOL




But seriously, you sound like a gigantic douche.


Edited by Anthony H. - May 29 2011 at 22:45

 

CPicard wrote: - Henry Plainview - and I just need to type this sole name to feel disturbed;

Well then I must be doing something right. 

And I don't care what you think, I am going to keep using avant-garde as a genre. :|

Lozlan wrote: I really don't understand why evolution and biological imperatives would influence the types of music a person enjoys. Are you making some argument that women are more soft, cuddly, and caring (mothering instinct or what have you), and therefore like music that is sappy and emotional? I really don't buy that the type of voice an individual has influences their musical preference...I like Captain Beefheart but I certainly don't have a five-octave growling range capable of shattering cinderblocks. Also, since I know a fair number of women who enjoy prog, are they some sort of genetic mistake? Let's get specific here.

Actually, no, as usual, you are jumping several cues to pursue your agenda.  All I said is biologically, women tend to have a naturally higher pitch than men and as a singer, I believe higher pitch is better for soft singing than low pitch. It just is, that's all, I cannot prove this empirically but I have seen this hold good across too many samples to believe otherwise. Of course, who does it better individually would also depend on the skill of the singer but biological differences do kick in here.  I did not by the way use words like cuddly or sappy if you chose to read carefully at all - I used attributes like reticence, ambivalence, melodious, attributes which I think are very valuable in singing. So this only goes further to prove my theory, ironically, that it is men who relentlessly stereotype the music that women make in a negative and denigrating light and refuse to believe that there can be another way and that such other way can be equally valid and, from an artistic perspective, equally compelling.   In particular, rock fans are notorious for bashing anything soft or lush as sappy, cuddly nonsense even if there may be compelling emotional intent residing within said soft music. Sorry, I don't think equality for or emancipation of women amounts to tom-tomming or shouting from the rooftops that they are like men in every possible way. Rather, it is to recognize and respect differences with maturity and give them space to do their own thing.

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@ The Dark Elf

Alitare wrote: And here I thought my requests for fellatio were going to be the straws that broke the camel's banhammer and got this thread shut down. Actually, I thought the inherent sexism in the thread's bloodstream would've gotten it locked ages ago. And here it's all gonna come crashing down because of what practically constitutes a disgruntled observing pedestrian.

CPicard wrote: But, at the end, the truth is that your "progressive rock scene" is a dead scene on the modern stage of music: for many, progressive rock died with the arrival of Punk and New Wave. Your music died in 1976 and no one cared about the burial. But you feel the need to claim your love for a genre that just a minority cares about: most of you are WASP, middle-class young men, you worship Rush, you fancy heroic-fantasy, badly written "SF", you still have your D&D books, you think you are an elite or a "persecuted minority" for loving this genre... No wonder no one wants to join your club. Over the couple of years I spend on this forum, I've seen:  - debates about the superiority of progressive rock upon other musical genres;  - a thousand stupid, needless polls about "Make your dream band", "Who's the best singer", "Yes, Genesis or Rush?" (hello, Gandalff, too much free time?) - Christian propaganda Vs. the most stupid atheist in the world (hello, Mike, need fibers?) - Libertarian propaganda (hello, social darwinism) - aginor destroying English linguage; - Henry Plainview - and I just need to type this sole name to feel disturbed; - the inability to understand that AVANT-GARDE IS NOT A f**kING GENRE, MORONS! Go read a dictionary! - the GURLS (PA needs more women). Oh, yeah, women. The girls. The chicks, the "shes". They have short attention spans. They only care for the melodies. They are irrational. They can't understand the superiority of progressive rock. They can't drum. And, now, biological hypothesis, handled by semi-savant monkeys launched on internet, fed from Wikipedia, without anyone to punch them in the face while they obviously need it. I have enough of this zoo. This hell. I can't stay on this forum without having bursts of irritation: I stopped lurking on the Christian/Agnostic threads, the Libertarian thread - and even most of the musical threads. But it's not enough. I have to get the hell out of here. Women don't care about your f**king progressive rock music, because men don't care about it. No one cares about it. No one cares about YOU.

Wow

But, at the end, the truth is that your "progressive rock scene" is a dead scene on the modern stage of music: for many, progressive rock died with the arrival of Punk and New Wave. Your music died in 1976 and no one cared about the burial.
But you feel the need to claim your love for a genre that just a minority cares about: most of you are WASP, middle-class young men, you worship Rush, you fancy heroic-fantasy, badly written "SF", you still have your D&D books, you think you are an elite or a "persecuted minority" for loving this genre... No wonder no one wants to join your club.

Over the couple of years I spend on this forum, I've seen:
 - debates about the superiority of progressive rock upon other musical genres;
 - a thousand stupid, needless polls about "Make your dream band", "Who's the best singer", "Yes, Genesis or Rush?" (hello, Gandalff, too much free time?)
- Christian propaganda Vs. the most stupid atheist in the world (hello, Mike, need fibers?)
- Libertarian propaganda (hello, social darwinism)
- aginor destroying English linguage;
- Henry Plainview - and I just need to type this sole name to feel disturbed;
- the inability to understand that AVANT-GARDE IS NOT A f**kING GENRE, MORONS! Go read a dictionary!
- the GURLS (PA needs more women).

Oh, yeah, women.
The girls. The chicks, the "shes".
They have short attention spans. They only care for the melodies. They are irrational. They can't understand the superiority of progressive rock. They can't drum.
And, now, biological hypothesis, handled by semi-savant monkeys launched on internet, fed from Wikipedia, without anyone to punch them in the face while they obviously need it.

I have enough of this zoo. This hell.
I can't stay on this forum without having bursts of irritation: I stopped lurking on the Christian/Agnostic threads, the Libertarian thread - and even most of the musical threads. But it's not enough. I have to get the hell out of here.

Women don't care about your f**king progressive rock music, because men don't care about it.
No one cares about it.
No one cares about YOU.