Math-Pop bands for Crossover

Henry Plainview wrote:   Proletariat wrote:    Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahaha Oh yeah, while I agree with their overall assessment in this case because I can't stand anything I've heard from EE, I don't mean to defend Pitchfork. I think they're a little more resolute than you're giving them credit for, though. TMV seems to be fairly popular among hipsters and Pitchfork hasn't held back the hate for any of their albums.    Starhammer wrote:  EE is amazing, those guys have a place in X-over or Post/math here. I really do not see Crossover at all, and I am absolutely sure they're not math rock.

so what your saying is that because you can't stand them they are not prog?

 

Proletariat wrote:    Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahaha

Oh yeah, while I agree with their overall assessment in this case because I can't stand anything I've heard from EE, I don't mean to defend Pitchfork. I think they're a little more resolute than you're giving them credit for, though. TMV seems to be fairly popular among hipsters and Pitchfork hasn't held back the hate for any of their albums. 
 

Starhammer wrote:  EE is amazing, those guys have a place in X-over or Post/math here.

I really do not see Crossover at all, and I am absolutely sure they're not math rock. 


Edited by Henry Plainview - February 12 2011 at 22:06

Henry Plainview wrote: Proletariat wrote: Trouserpress wrote: Proletariat wrote: ^^^ I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff! Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge. I would not be surprised if it was, I expect to see pitchfork heralding this as the next big thing at any time!!! Nope! Come on, Cedric Bixler-Zavala can only dream of being as annoying as EE's singer, did you really expect Pitchfork to like them? And before anyone else, I have to get in my no no no for both of those being on PA.

Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahaha

Trouserpress wrote: Proletariat wrote: ^^^ I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff! Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge.

I would not be surprised if it was, I expect to see pitchfork heralding this as the next big thing at any time!!!

^^^

Obviously foals and Minus the Bear are a little less obvious choices but I definately see no reason why This Town Needs Guns is meeting so much resistance.

Minus The Bear one of my favourite recent findings but I came to the conclusion they are not crossover, as did other team members. I would rather label them as " Power Pop"

like i sayed i like PA as a resource but the claim to being "the ultamate discography" is a bit overstated

In the end it comes down to the fact that on PA it is easyer to stand with one foot in metal and prog than one foot in indie and prog even though both genres have equal amounts of crossover apeal. And the fact that the different teams on this site have different opinions and make clear that they do. especially in regards to crossover which I have seen refferred to by colaborators as "not prog" while members with less noteriety like myself often see it as not being inclusive enough. Who knew that revamping the genres would lead to such turbulance.

Edited by Proletariat - February 09 2011 at 19:55

I see what you're thinking, some of these bands do have prog/pop approach, here's my eval.  ;

Minus the Bear    definitely not Mathrock, a possibility for Crossover

This Town Needs Guns    cut 'Rabbit' closer to math, but on the balance from the two tracks, I would say No for mathrock

Marnie Sterns      No

Foals    the most professional of the lot and very good, the question is are they Mathrock and from these two, I'd say assuredly not (I wouldn't be surprised to hear those songs on indie radio).


Each of these artists have talent, but the bands on PA that have a point of reference to them aren't normally used to qualify other bands with similarities.  If harmonium.ro (Alex) thinks any of these should be referred to Crossover, I'm sure he'll do that.  But thank you Ryan, and sorry for any disappointment, but who knows maybe you'll see one of them on the site someday.