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rich2007 
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 20:34 |
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KING CRIMSON
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Stevo
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 08:41 |
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Tough one. As songwriters, Genesis, Banks and Rutherford in particular, can stand against anyone (even Lennon/Mcartney) . On the other hand as explorers of music and defenders of integrity, KC is without parallel. Genesis music has given me more pleasure though and ultimately thats what its about.
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 04:23 |
Well after Genesis trounced Yes so thoroughly in the three time re-match/ re-hash  ... do you dear prog listener think..."That's All?" or do you have "The Power To Believe? " King Crimson.
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 02:23 |
 TazManiaN_DeViL wrote:
King Crimson is much more orginal to me , they have my vote :) , if i may ask , why can't i vote? :O
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because you're a forum newbie, just as I am... 
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Posted: November 16 2010 at 00:54 |
I thought the battle is over. 
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Posted: November 15 2010 at 23:21 |
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King Crimson is the King of Prog!
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TazManiaN_DeViL
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Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:10 |
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King Crimson is much more orginal to me , they have my vote :) , if i may ask , why can't i vote? :O
Edited by TazManiaN_DeViL - November 15 2010 at 18:11
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"In the Court of the Crimson King" lies "The battle of Hastings" and the "Escenses""Between Flesh and Divine" with the "Mirage" of a "Camel"!
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 18:40 |
KC avenged Yes.
f**k YEA!
but srsly, i think Yes could have done better against Crimso
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Anirml
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:49 |
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King Crimson
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:14 |
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: November 13 2010 at 16:12 |
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Poll's over! The winner of Round 4 Division 1 of Battle of the Prog Bands is King Crimson. They will now move onto the Finals, and Genesis is out of the tournament. See you at the next match of Battle of the Prog Bands!
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Varon
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:34 |
Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:
Varon wrote:
If you compare KC with Bach, Genesis is Mozart and not Copeland . + KC reminds me Berlioz or Wagner rather than Bach. It's an interesting topic for discussion anyway  |
Funny, my first inclination was to compare Genesis to Mozart. But when I consider all of the post-Hackett material, I maintain that Copeland is a better analogy. After all, my stance was that Genesis is catchy while King Crimson is moving. Sorry, I can't agree with you about the Wagner analogy. King Crimson is to Prog as Bach is to Classical imho.  |
Considering all of the post-Hackett material you can't compare Genesis with any classical composer. You are right of course about "King Crimson is moving" but they have lost their spirit during this movement IMO (it's not about Discipline that is a really great album). For me Genesis is a Band till 1977 after this year it's a commercial organization
P.S. For me VdGG is Bach
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Would you catch my words???
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 13:15 |
Varon wrote:
If you compare KC with Bach, Genesis is Mozart and not Copeland . + KC reminds me Berlioz or Wagner rather than Bach. It's an interesting topic for discussion anyway |
Funny, my first inclination was to compare Genesis to Mozart. But when I consider all of the post-Hackett material, I maintain that Copeland is a better analogy. After all, my stance was that Genesis is catchy while King Crimson is moving. Sorry, I can't agree with you about the Wagner analogy. King Crimson is to Prog as Bach is to Classical imho. But perhaps you are referring to style whereas I am referring to influence, so I do understand your viewpoint.
Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - November 12 2010 at 13:29
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:44 |
Snow Dog wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
My prob;em with Wagner is that he just can't sing! I can't believe he's still in the competition!
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OMG! The man is a total buffoon. Sleazy too.....and he REALLY cannot sing! |
Ha Ha!  God, how I hate that show 
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:36 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
My prob;em with Wagner is that he just can't sing! I can't believe he's still in the competition!
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OMG! The man is a total buffoon. Sleazy too.....and he REALLY cannot sing!
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:34 |
My problem with Wagner is that he just can't sing! I can't believe he's still in the competition!
Edited by akamaisondufromage - November 12 2010 at 12:36
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Varon
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 10:44 |
If you compare KC with Bach, Genesis is Mozart and not Copeland . + KC reminds me Berlioz or Wagner rather than Bach. It's an interesting topic for discussion anyway
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Would you catch the final words of mine?
Would you catch my words???
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 08:37 |
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I think another reason why we have less votes here than in the polls between Genesis and Yes, and Genesis, Yes and PFM, is that quite a few of us are unable to decide which band we like the most. At least that’s why I can’t vote here: A vote for G would be a vote against KC and vice versa, and either way I would have felt bad about it.
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I say nothing is nothing
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 06:54 |
mahavishnujoel wrote:
Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:
Formentera Lady wrote:
I was a huge Genesis fan before I discovered the music of KC. When I discovered KC, I listened to their first 8 albums in a row and I thought and still think, that I haven't heard any music in my life more beautiful!  (Only ITWOP is a little behind, because I think it only repeats the themes of ITCOTCK). |
 <font ="apple-style-span"="" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif"><span ="apple-style-span"="" style="font-size: small;">Well stated. I like Genesis too, but I love King Crimson. Genesis songs always seemed to be a compilation of catchy tunes strung together into a long song (albeit with some great lyrics) and while they were pleasant and beautiful to hear, they sounded the same every time. King Crimson songs seemed more sophisticated; music that was not catchy but moving, and grew on me slowly until I craved it. For me, it's like comparing Copeland to Bach.</span> |
Wow!i though I was the only one who felt that way about Genesis!! |
You 're not only one
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: November 12 2010 at 06:45 |
ten years after wrote:
To me there is no contest here. |
For me neither.
ten years after wrote:
Of the 13 albums produced by these two bands before 1975 I would rank them as follows: |
1. Red 2. Foxtrot 3. The Lamb lies down on Broadway 4. Selling England by the Pound 5. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 6. Starless and Bible Black 7. Lizard 8. In the Court of the Crimson King 9. Islands 10. Nursery Cryme 11. In the Wake of Poseidon 12. Trespass 13. From Genesis to Revelation
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