Battle of the Prog Bands SFD1: Genesis vs. Crimso
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Topic: Battle of the Prog Bands SFD1: Genesis vs. Crimso
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Subject: Battle of the Prog Bands SFD1: Genesis vs. Crimso
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 16:38
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Welcome to Semi-finals Division 1 of Battle of the Prog Bands! This time, our two contenders are Genesis and King Crimson. Vote for your favorite, and the band with the most votes will move onto the Finals. Please do not vote unless you have listened to at least one album by both bands. Here is the tournament thus far:  Schedule for Upcoming Matches Semi-finals Division 2 - November 13 Finals - November 18 Final Results - November 24 About a year ago I would have said Genesis. Now I say King Crimson. Unparalleled in the Rock world in general as far as re-inventing themselves and innovation goes.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 16:54
| Sorry Genesis, but it has to be the King. |
Posted By: Elderflower Man
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:05
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...Genesis, you know that you have my eternal love. But my vote rests in the court of the Crimson King this time round. I've always felt that King Crimson were one of the most "progressive" of all the bands in prog-rock. ------------- All your hearts now seem so far from me, It hardly seems to matter now. |
Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:06
My mind says King Crimson but my heart says Genesis... 
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:15
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Genesis
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Would you like some Bailey's? |
Posted By: Theriver
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:28
| King Crimson 30 years at the top.....Almost...... |
Posted By: Johnnytuba
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:38
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Genesis. ------------- "The things that we're concealing, will never let us grow. Time will do its healing, you've got to let it go. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:40
| Tough one. Have to go with Crimson as I find their output more consistent, and they were always interested in changing their sound. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:40
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Genesis. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:41
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This one is sooooooooo hard. Both have an amazing body of work and huge influencial power in the world of rock and progressive rock.
I feel though that in the main stream rock avenue, Genesis is more influential, while KC was not as broad. I also feel the body of work goes to Genesis, more recognized, more influential.....but so hard as In the Court is so huge of a production.....
Genesis is my 2nd favorite band of all time........I'm fighting the urge....I've got to take some time on this one.....
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Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:54
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Time to Genesis get outta here
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 17:57
By Friday?  |
Klogg wrote:Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:03
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the crimson king, always progressing and pushing the boundaries of music. They always made music their way, nobody else is like KC. Genesis was great for a limited time |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:12
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I won't vote. I can't vote. Too difficult to choose by far. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:13
| The one that never turned into a mainstream pop poop-bucket |
Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:14
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Crimson all they way! They better win this...lol. ------------- 
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:16
| The one that never stopped taking risks and always embodied the very idea of progress. |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:25
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Ah, here we are finally, or at least semi-finally. Obviously not an easy one, but in microseconds I chose Fripp's gang. They win this street fight. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:49
| King Crimson |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 19:34
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Yay, I can vote in this one...even though I think their debut is overrated, it's gotta be King Crimson for me. Genesis never made an album like Red, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Lizard, Discipline, or Islands (or any of the other KC albums, as I don't dislike any of them).
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Posted By: mourningknight
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:09
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As much as I love King Crimson, it is still, and always will be, Genesis for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:11
| I'm not a huge king crimson fan (compared to others on this site) but they absolutely deserve to win this tournament |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:19
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Genesis |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:35
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I love both pretty much equally, but KC has a slight edge in my heart. Plus, they never made a bad album.Yes would have had my vote if they were in this, though. -------------  |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:37
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Long live the king!
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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:58
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Must King Crimson win every single poll? I don't remember seeing a poll where they lost. I love King Crimson but I'm amazed that even Genesis can't put up a good fight against the Crimson King.
A hard choice but I go for Genesis. I prefer more of their albums to King Crimson's. ------------- ''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.'' - Albert Camus |
Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 20:59
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sorry Genesis, but we are In The Court Of The Crimson King!!!!! ------------- Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 21:02
Yeah, they're going to win the tournament. ------------- |
Posted By: The Tourist
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 21:43
| Voting for Crimson as soon as I reach 40 posts. If you had asked me just a few months ago I probably would have gone with Genesis. Either way, this wasn't an easy decision for me. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 21:45
Agreed. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The Tourist
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 21:46
Same here.
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 22:13
| The VROOOMSTERS |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 22:17
And deservedly so, if you ask me. -------------
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 23:06
| Well, if KC has so easily and rapidly gotten the lead in this poll against Genesis, who hardly was able to brake the tie with Yes, I guess they are the easy winners of this tournament. I myself don't know, they are somewhat equal for me. I like Yes more than this two, though. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 00:01
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I like one Crimson album, I like at least 9 Genesis albums, being Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme my two favorite albums ever. The choice is easy for me....Genesis all the way. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 00:56
T H I S ! ! ! ! ! ! ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 01:31
Whoa, is that like a super rare version of that cover or something? ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 01:35
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It looks like a negative of it i.e. someone edited it |
Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 01:37
Listen to your heart... |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 01:46
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Such a sentimental happening, this poll. Genesis is very good, but als overrated IMHO. Tresspass, Nursury Cryme and Foxtrot are all pretty good, but after that the band became poppy and romantic which ruined a lot of otherwise good song-writing.
King Crimson always had this brave vision of constant progression and that is to be celebrated. I don't like some of their 'Crimso-metal'-album that much, but albums like the debut, the second, Lizard and Red make this one of my favorite bands. Other bands that I might have voted for if added to the poll: Magma and SBB. The latter should have gotten way more attention in this poll |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 01:50
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It seems like that people think that it's about which band is more important rather than what is their favourite :- /
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 02:06
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Crimson is more important indeed, and they are my favorite!  Or was that Pink Floyd? I've got a few more days to make up my mind. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 02:33
King Crimson is more important, more favourite and more influential without any doubts! ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 02:47
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Genesis, obviously. Three 5-star albums against none for King Crimson. ------------- 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 03:08
| LOL @ the low number of votes due to newbies not voting! |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 03:14
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 03:22
| avatar says it all |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 03:57
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Genesis by far
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:21
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King Crimson are overrated here imo. Genesis. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:25
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:30
DON't EDIT MY POST!!!!
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:40
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That´s usual thing here. Don´t be touchy all of a sudden. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:46
I know its usual but its childish and pathetic! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:55
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My head says Genesis. My heart says Genesis. Therefore my vote goes to Genesis.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:56
| Sorry Gabriel era Genesis, I voted for King Crimson. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:09
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Easy - King Crimson. Even against Yes it would be KC anyway.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:11
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:12
Poor Genesis  I thought it would be closer than this but the mighty KC marches on! 
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:18
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:20
| Oh well. Genesis as a band is more talented, more charismatic, easily more enjoyable to listen to, and inspired plenty of bands as well. I love King Crimson, but it's Genesis, and it always will be. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:20
It wasn't Phil's and it wasn't crap. Just posting an alternative view for balance. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Marcin
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:26
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King Crimson!!!
so many years and they have stayed fresh, original and uncompromising!  ------------- 
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:50
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King
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:11
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I must say I had hoped KC could win this but right now it looks like a scroll through the park. Who had expected that? |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:56
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I just voted King Crimson in to 50 votes then. Hard to vote aginst them really. ------------- 
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Posted By: Thin_Man
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:02
Genesis! If I could only vote.
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Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:07
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I voted for King Crimson. but let's be honest it's fripp we are voting for since he's been the only constant in the group, bruford and belew being the other two longest members. ------------- Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:09
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Gillywibble
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:20
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Surprised the vote isn't closer.
Have to vote Genesis. ------------- There is in fact more earth than sea. http://www.last.fm/user/Gillywibble |
Posted By: anoblesoul
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:29
| That would be KC. |
Posted By: king
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 07:55
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This is a KC inspired plot!
Even though logged in correctly, I can't vote!!
This would be one more vote for the mighty Genesis, who deserve to crush KC under their heels. But sadly, it won't be. ------------- Brothers are bad, twin brothers are murder |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:16
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: AA
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:35
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yes! kc! whooho (guess i'm ready to become a groupie  |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:36
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:38
Now don't you start! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 08:57
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:00
 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72733&FID=42&PR=3 ------------- |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:04
therefore you are a woman ------------- |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:04
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Sorry KC, Genesis for me. |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:21
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I actually might prefer Genesis' 80s material to that of KC, but overall KC wins clearly. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:32
| KC is more innovative than Genesis ever was but i still voted for Genesis because they were better song writers. |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 09:41
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Pretty hard one............. but I think I'll go Genesis. -------------  
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 10:09
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Well, this is teribbly difficult. My vote goes to Genesis since they are enough to define the term progressive rock (at least with their works till 1975) ------------- Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. |
Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 10:27
| Hard call, but Hacket-era Genesis moves me more than KC. Purely subjective response. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:10
| Pleasantly surprised, had fully expected Genesis to be running away with this one when I came in to vote. This site must have changed a lot from what I remember it to be not so long ago. Voted for KC. |
Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:21
| King Crimson of courte |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:53
King Crimson. Easily. What happened to Yes?  ------------- http://www.thefreshfilmblog.com/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:53
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From an objective point of view - KC.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:55
| Going with KC here. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:57
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 11:59
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I'd like to make a suggestion that, in future, we ban all Yes fans with less than 20,000 posts on the forum from voting in future polls, so as not to skew and alter the result of otherwise fairly straightforward polls
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:06
1. Just because somebody prefers Yes to Genesis does not mean they don't happen to also prefer King Crimson to Genesis; there is nothing skewed about that.
2. How can you define a Yes fan? And in any case, many Yes fans are also Genesis fans.
3. Number of posts does not equate to intelligence, right to vote, value of opinion.... anything really, other than how frequently you are on this website. ------------- http://www.thefreshfilmblog.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:07
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I seriously thought Genesis would be winning, not by much, by nonetheless, winning.
Genesis, all the way.
I hope that Rush can beat Pink Floyd ------------- 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:08
I believe Lazland was just kidding.  -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:09
I hope so too, but I don't think they have a snowball's chance in hell. -------------
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:11
It'd be amazing if they could.
But, it looks like it'll be KC and PF...the two I enjoy the least from the top 4. -------------
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:12
Indeed I was  Believe me, I have far more serious matters to worry about and take seriously.------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:15
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Kidding, not kidding...... doesn't make the post any less stupid...... ------------- http://www.thefreshfilmblog.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:18
It wasn't stupid. He's just poking fun. You don't have to take it so seriously. Jeez. -------------
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 12:20
Jeezus christ, that's gonna be the dullest poll ever. |