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moonchild 
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 Topic: Between Genesis and Yes prog albums
Posted: May 15 2004 at 20:22 |
Trespass - The Yes Album: THE YES ALBUM
Nursery Crime - Fragile: NURSERY CRYME
Foxtrot - Close To The Edge: FOXTROT
Selling England By The Pound - Relayer: SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND
The Lamb... - Tales From Topographic...: TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC...
A Trick Of The Tail - Yesterday: A TRICK OF THE TAIL
Wind And Wuthering - Going For The One: WIND & WUTHERING
And Then There Were Three - Tormato: AND THEN THERE WERE THREE
Duke - Drama: DRAMA
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Easy Livin
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 15:09 |
 Peter Rideout wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
Duke - Drama: Drama. Duke has some great tracks (Los Endos) and a few duffers. Drama is a good Yes album, end to end.
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 Er, you must be thinking of another track, Easy ol' chum. "Los Endos" is on A Trick of the Tale, not Duke.
(I agree with your choice, though.)
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Another "Thick as a brick" moment for me Peter, they're getting more frequent these days!
The track I meant was Duke's Travels/Dukes End, I do like the way the "Guide vocal" is revived in that track.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 12:13 |
 Ya Mon. 
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 12:12 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
 After all, music is really just math at it's root, isn't it? |
Quite correct Sir Rideout. But no matter how hard one tries, II + V + IV can never add up to 11 in music.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 12:04 |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 11:53 |
| I liked your picks as well. Collins over White, AGREED. PC's Brand X work is stunning. Wouldn't you like to hear Peter Gabriel and Jon Anderson together. |
Well, Collins is a great drummer, sometimes underrated because of his cheasy work in the 3 men Gensis, but stunning as a drummer. He has a jazzy edge very pleasent to listen.
Would be nice to listen Gabriel and Anderson together because both cover al the ranges from low to high vocals, but my dream has always listen something with Gabriel and Annie Hasslam together.
Iván
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 10:54 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
I'll follow your game Danbo
Now compare players: (only the classic line-ups to save time)
(Voice) Peter Gabriel - Jon Anderson (Gabriel by a mile)
(Bass) Mike Rutherford - Chris Squire (Duh - Squire, AGREE)
(Guitars) Steve Hackett - Steve Howe (EVEN - Just don't let 'em record together AGREE)
(Drums) Phil Collins - Bill Bruford (silly proghole - drums are for Bill) But, Collins VS White?: COLLINS !!!!!!! (White played more years and albums than Bruford)
(Keys) Tony Banks - Rick Wakeman (Wakeman for a solo but Banks for a band)
Iván
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I liked your picks as well. Collins over White, AGREED. PC's Brand X work is stunning. Wouldn't you like to hear Peter Gabriel and Jon Anderson together. Just one tune. I also understand the Banks/Wakeman choice. Banks played great atmospherics, Wakeman always seemed to be bidding time until his next chance to rip it up. Great musicians all. 
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 23:34 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
No relation with USSR LOL
That's a relief! I don't need Putin or any old ex-KGB, grudge-holding psychotic Smirnoff-breathed Moscow mafia hit-men coming after me.
(Crazed young death-metal fans give me enough grief !)  (long story!)
Well, great minds have similar tastes, I'm also modest as you see  |
There's an old English expression: "Great minds think alike -- fools seldom differ."
I wonder which is the case with us? 
Ole! (sorry, don't know much Espanol!)
Peter
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 22:42 |
| Ivan! (Red for anyone named Ivan, naturally! ) |
LMAO
Not the first time somedy says something like this, they asked me if I'm from Bulgaria or Russia for example, I'm from Perú and my mom is an an admirer of late 1800's Russian Music and Art, so she named me Iván.
No relation with USSR LOL
Your tastes coincide with mine  -- but it's just a exercise in amusement, of course.... |
Well, great minds have similar tastes, I'm also modest as you see
Iván
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 22:33 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
I'll follow your game Danbo
Now compare players: (only the classic line-ups to save time)
(Voice) Peter Gabriel - Jon Anderson (Gabriel by a mile)
(Bass) Mike Rutherford - Chris Squire (Duh - Squire, AGREE)
(Guitars) Steve Hackett - Steve Howe (EVEN - Just don't let 'em record together AGREE)
(Drums) Phil Collins - Bill Bruford (silly proghole - drums are for Bill) But, Collins VS White?: COLLINS !!!!!!! (White played more years and albums than Bruford)
(Keys) Tony Banks - Rick Wakeman (Wakeman for a solo but Banks for a band)
Iván
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 I like your thinking, Ivan! (Red for anyone named Ivan, naturally! )
Your tastes coincide with mine -- but it's just a exercise in amusement, of course....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 22:06 |
I'll follow your game Danbo
Now compare players: (only the classic line-ups to save time)
(Voice) Peter Gabriel - Jon Anderson (Gabriel by a mile)
(Bass) Mike Rutherford - Chris Squire (Duh - Squire, AGREE)
(Guitars) Steve Hackett - Steve Howe (EVEN - Just don't let 'em record together AGREE)
(Drums) Phil Collins - Bill Bruford (silly proghole - drums are for Bill) But, Collins VS White?: COLLINS !!!!!!! (White played more years and albums than Bruford)
(Keys) Tony Banks - Rick Wakeman (Wakeman for a solo but Banks for a band)
Iván
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Marcelo
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 21:15 |
maani wrote:
I hate to be a party pooper, but...
Aren't these types of polls a little like the old "apples and oranges" axiom? For example, what does the word "best" mean here? I'm not trying to be contrary, but you might as well ask me if I like Mozart better than Beethoven. Both wrote "classical" music, both were geniuses, both influenced others. But ultimately they wrote different - but equally good - music.
Peace.
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Well, like I said in another poll, I use to put the words "worst" or "best" just like a guide. I think that a poll, doesn't matter the thread, is just another way to get fun and to know what people (prog people in this case) thinks about some topics. "Between Genesis or Yes" is one more poll. Of course, both bands were great, but all human beings have our own preferences, about Ford & Chevrolet, Bach & Vivaldi or apples & oranges  . Next time, I'll change the subject: "Do you like this band or cd more than the other?" 
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 20:12 |
 Let's assign numerical values to everything, line it all up, and eliminate that which doesn't measure up! Let the chips fall where they may, proclaim I!
After all, music is really just math at its root, isn't it? We simply have to arrive at the proper formula with which to rate it....
Wait! The accountants at the record companies and radio stations have already done that!
You would lead us further down a dark path, my friends.
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 20:02 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 19:04 |
maani wrote:
I hate to be a party pooper, but...
Aren't these types of polls a little like the old "apples and oranges" axiom? For example, what does the word "best" mean here? I'm not trying to be contrary, but you might as well ask me if I like Mozart better than Beethoven. Both wrote "classical" music, both were geniuses, both influenced others. But ultimately they wrote different - but equally good - music.
Peace.
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Duh!!! maani and Peter,
It's all very simple. If I say it is (best), it is.... easy.
Edited by danbo
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 17:52 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Duke - Drama: Drama. Duke has some great tracks (Los Endos) and a few duffers. Drama is a good Yes album, end to end.
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Er, you must be thinking of another track, Easy ol' chum. "Los Endos" is on A Trick of the Tale, not Duke.
(I agree with your choice, though.)
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 17:46 |
maani wrote:
I hate to be a party pooper, but...
Aren't these types of polls a little like the old "apples and oranges" axiom? For example, what does the word "best" mean here? I'm not trying to be contrary, but you might as well ask me if I like Mozart better than Beethoven. Both wrote "classical" music, both were geniuses, both influenced others. But ultimately they wrote different - but equally good - music.
Peace.
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Hear hear! Words of wisdom! (Both bands are great! define "best," please!)
"Listen to the old one speak, of all he has lived through."
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 17:43 |
Bjørn Are wrote:
Anyoe interestd in my almos always functining PC keyboar? |
Ha! Good one, but no thanks!
Comptrs: Cnt liv wth em, cnt lve wthut em!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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maani
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 17:39 |
I hate to be a party pooper, but...
Aren't these types of polls a little like the old "apples and oranges" axiom? For example, what does the word "best" mean here? I'm not trying to be contrary, but you might as well ask me if I like Mozart better than Beethoven. Both wrote "classical" music, both were geniuses, both influenced others. But ultimately they wrote different - but equally good - music.
Peace.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 15:08 |
Trespass - The Yes Album: The Yes Album
Nursery Crime - Fragile: Fragile
Foxtrot - Close To The Edge: CTTE
Selling England By The Pound - Relayer: Seling England
The Lamb... - Tales From Topographic...: The Lamb
A Trick Of The Tail - Yesterday: Trick
Wind And Wuthering - Going For The One: Going for the One
And Then There Were Three - Tormato: Three
Duke - Drama: Drama
If you match the best Yes has to offer, they beat out Genesis everytime. Genesis' best beats out Yes' weak stuff.
Now compare players: (only the classic line-ups to save time)
(Voice) Peter Gabriel - Jon Anderson (Close match - edge - Anderson)
(Bass) Mike Rutherford - Chris Squire (Duh - Squire)
(Guitars) Steve Hackett - Steve Howe (EVEN - Just don't let 'em record together)
(Drums) Phil Collins - Bill Bruford (silly proghole - drums are for Bill)
(Keys) Tony Banks - Rick Wakeman (Wakeman)
 
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