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    Posted: August 30 2010 at 20:11
Well, I will be waiting then...!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2010 at 14:40
No, I most certainly do not appear.  This was before the age of cheap camcorders.  So the video is stuff I copied off TV.  But I actually created some video that worked rather well as far as timing goes.

If I'm going to share something, it will probably be a performance taped on my camcorder. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2010 at 14:34
Nice...!!!
 
Well, I hope you record something new with that thing so we can share that... I'm intrigued how it works and everything. I became a little lazy in the last weeks but I'm thinking in getting my hands over the workstation again in the near future...
 
if you appear in the DVD man, you should not waste any more time and find it and post it man... I'm serious...!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2010 at 12:53
You know, I haven't recorded anything I've done since the '80's.  I may yet get bold and share.  All of my cassette recordings from back then were ruined in the flood.  I'm still trying to find a DVD that I made off a VHS where I put some of my original creations to videos.  If I can locate a copy I might post on You Tube, then if I get any slings and arrows it will be about stuff that's really old now. LOL

It's a really versatile device.  It's set up to be an accompaniment device for guitar, keyboard, and vocals.  But until I get the computer interface working, I'm not sure I'll be able to use it to it's full potential.  What's funny, is that I can run my electric guitar through it and it does effects and amplifier simulations, my new amp does amplifier simulations (why, why, why??? LOL), and my new guitar effects box does amp simulations, so if I were to run a signal through all three devices, I'm thinking the gates of hell would open if I just got the right combination.  Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2010 at 10:42
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

This thread's been dormant since May.  I thought I'd pop in with a progress report on my QY100.  I finally spent a little time with it and figured out how to access all the sounds.  I had a lot of fun when I got to the percussion banks.  One step at a time.  I still haven't got the computer interface worked out, but for the sake of having some fun, I'm probably going to lay down a percussion track I can improvise to.  I'm guessing yours has the intro, middle bits, fill, and ending set up.  I found that when you have one the presets running you can hold down more than one of the buttons and get some interesting combinations.  Kind of brings me back to when I got my first synth.  It had an arpeggiator and I found that you could make some really cool sounding music by turning it all the way up and playing a patch that had a really long envelope.  You could also create some really spacey effects by turning the knob up and down really quick. LOL
 
Great man... sound like you are having fun there... moving the knobs is the best way to get things funny... seems like it's easy to work with... I hope you will post some material soon so we will enjoy together of the material... great dude...!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2010 at 07:17
This thread's been dormant since May.  I thought I'd pop in with a progress report on my QY100.  I finally spent a little time with it and figured out how to access all the sounds.  I had a lot of fun when I got to the percussion banks.  One step at a time.  I still haven't got the computer interface worked out, but for the sake of having some fun, I'm probably going to lay down a percussion track I can improvise to.  I'm guessing yours has the intro, middle bits, fill, and ending set up.  I found that when you have one the presets running you can hold down more than one of the buttons and get some interesting combinations.  Kind of brings me back to when I got my first synth.  It had an arpeggiator and I found that you could make some really cool sounding music by turning it all the way up and playing a patch that had a really long envelope.  You could also create some really spacey effects by turning the knob up and down really quick. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 13:44
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Sounds good Juan. Not a style of music that I'm into, but well constructed. I can't say much about the bits I did like, since they are good, so picking up on the bits I didn't may sound like I'm being all negative, but that's not the intension. So... I didn't like the electronic percussion intro - that transcribed into something more natural/organic sounding would be better for me, perhaps using found sounds, but if that cold artificial sound in contrast with the more natural (percussion) sound later is what you're after then it's all good. I would also change the dynamics a little - dropping the piano interlude a few dB to make it a touch quieter and understated so when the riff kicks back in it has more impact and drama - but again, that's personal preference and without knowing what the next track will be like (or the whole flavour of the album) it's difficult to gauge how the opener should sound.
 
Oh... thanks Dean... I'm taking notes from all the comments to try to pulish a little the ideas and apply some things in the next songs and even in the intro... Yes... I want a contrast between electronic perc and "real" drums... I will work on this more time and keeping you inform about my progress... thanks for the opinions Dean... I appreciate them a lot...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 13:27
Sounds good Juan. Not a style of music that I'm into, but well constructed. I can't say much about the bits I did like, since they are good, so picking up on the bits I didn't may sound like I'm being all negative, but that's not the intension. So... I didn't like the electronic percussion intro - that transcribed into something more natural/organic sounding would be better for me, perhaps using found sounds, but if that cold artificial sound in contrast with the more natural (percussion) sound later is what you're after then it's all good. I would also change the dynamics a little - dropping the piano interlude a few dB to make it a touch quieter and understated so when the riff kicks back in it has more impact and drama - but again, that's personal preference and without knowing what the next track will be like (or the whole flavour of the album) it's difficult to gauge how the opener should sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2010 at 11:37
Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

Ok Juan... nice work there, and some interesting ideas. Will you be adding vocals? The piano section in the middle... nice contrast and I think you could develop that idea further... seems a bit brief, but just my first impressions. 
 
How did you transfer from the workstation? Anyway, keep doing it... and keep us posted on the band and your other projects. Well done, you're a great guy!   
 
Thanks Chris... well, this is the instrumental introduction of the album, so I want to keep it brief for now and then in the next songs I will extend the ideas, not exactly those riffs but some new ideas related of this particular song, I want to bring out a piano based song and a couple of acoustic songs as well...
 
Yes, It would have lyrics, not this song but in the rest of the album, I have three female singers in mind, each one will sing for a particular character of the story... I just don't find a good male singer... I just don't like the voices of the singers I know... and this has to be made with friends you know... I can't pay for a pro-singer so...
 
and for your last question, I do all the mix, pan and effects in the workstation... plug the M-50 to a multitrack recorder and just push play so everything is recorded as a song completed, just added the guitars in the multitrack and then made a "master track", exported as a wav file through USB connection to the computer. So I even can apply some digital modification if I want in my computer... in that particular song I used a "pre-mastering" filter..
 
Thanks for your comments... I will be bringing out more soon.... thanks for all the support... Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2010 at 13:56
Ok Juan... nice work there, and some interesting ideas. Will you be adding vocals? The piano section in the middle... nice contrast and I think you could develop that idea further... seems a bit brief, but just my first impressions. 
 
How did you transfer from the workstation? Anyway, keep doing it... and keep us posted on the band and your other projects. Well done, you're a great guy!   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 23:02

Yamaha makes it all seem so easy.  After said two pounds of limes and two bottles of Patron, myself, I finally gave in and bought a Yamaha 16-track recorder, and now I do my sequencing the old fashioned way: live, one track at a time.  Yes I know, I should learn to use the sequencer, but no sufficient time now, being one of those few people who seems to still have a job here in the USA and the corporate masters seem to think we should work 12 hour days and be happy about it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:34
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Hey....wasn't being funny or disrespectful.....Systems Exclusive Data can seriously have you pulling your hair out......especially when you use it with another synth of a different make. QY-100 is XG, right ? Try controlling that with a GS based synth, like a Roland, or Korg.....Sys-Ex is sent when you hit the play button. Trouble IS, GS messages dont mean much to an XG synth.....thats why you get totally unexpected things happening ie: voices changing by (seemingly) themself. This is the world of MSB (Most Significant Byte) and LSB (Least Significant Byte) that kept me on the phone to Yamaha UK for 3.5 years. Prepare for some SERIOUS manual reading.
 
Hope it goes well for ya.  Big smile
 
 

And all the hype made it seem like the thing would be so easy. LOL
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:25
Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Hey....wasn't being funny or disrespectful.....Systems Exclusive Data can seriously have you pulling your hair out......especially when you use it with another synth of a different make. QY-100 is XG, right ? Try controlling that with a GS based synth, like a Roland, or Korg.....Sys-Ex is sent when you hit the play button. Trouble IS, GS messages dont mean much to an XG synth.....thats why you get totally unexpected things happening ie: voices changing by (seemingly) themself. This is the world of MSB (Most Significant Byte) and LSB (Least Significant Byte) that kept me on the phone to Yamaha UK for 3.5 years. Prepare for some SERIOUS manual reading.
 
Hope it goes well for ya.  Big smile
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:22
Hey....wasn't being funny or disrespectful.....Systems Exclusive Data can seriously have you pulling your hair out......especially when you use it with another synth of a different make. QY-100 is XG, right ? Try controlling that with a GS based synth, like a Roland, or Korg.....Sys-Ex is sent when you hit the play button. Trouble IS, GS messages dont mean much to an XG synth.....thats why you get totally unexpected things happening ie: voices changing by (seemingly) themself. This is the world of MSB (Most Significant Byte) and LSB (Least Significant Byte) that kept me on the phone to Yamaha UK for 3.5 years. Prepare for some SERIOUS manual reading.
 
Hope it goes well for ya.  Big smile
 
 
ps: the QY-100 is velocity sensitive.....the trick IS, to edit with a PC.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:20
I will say this for the Yamaha, if I were stuck waiting at an airport or a hospital emergency room it's really nice and compact and I'd be having a ball while waiting.  The keyboard isn't velocity sensitive but like any instrument when you adapt yourself to playing it, it can be a lot of fun.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 22:02
Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Cool, I just got a (main)

Yamaha QY100 Sequencer Accompaniment Tool

Still haven't sat down with it to figure it all out.  Got stuck at getting it communicate MIDI wise with my synth and computers. So far I got my synth to change the default patch for the keyboard on it and I'm not entirely sure how that happened.  LOL

 
Systems Exclusive Data..........welcome to the nightmare !!  LOL
 
So Slarti... how's it going with the sequencer... I think I will post a sample of my recording next week... so far.. so good... Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 10:20
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

That was really great, Juan.  Excellent, upbeat music.  Clap

It reminds me of this, which I think you' really like. 
I agree with Rob's assessment as excellent, upbeat music.  It reminded me a bit of the Ozric Tentacles and for some reason Mike Oldfield comes to mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 09:19
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Common Juan, give us mp3 file. It says I have to register in order to download. Use some filesharing service as many starting artists do :-)

(I don't like/use stream)

 
Strange... you can just push play and you can hear it... but well... I will try a different way for yourself... OK..?
 
Thanks Rob... I don't know that album... but I check it out and let you know.. OK...? thanks...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 08:07
That was really great, Juan.  Excellent, upbeat music.  Clap

It reminds me of this, which I think you' really like. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2010 at 02:45

Common Juan, give us mp3 file. It says I have to register in order to download. Use some filesharing service as many starting artists do :-)

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