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Forum Senior Member Joined: May 02 2006 Location: Methil Republic Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Topic: punk prog??? Posted: April 10 2010 at 06:31 |
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Inde$troy by Saw Throat is a grindcore crustpunk concept album that might qualify.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: April 02 2010 at 09:07 | |
You know it! In fact Jaz Coleman claimed that he had to sack Paul Ferguson and Raven before recording Outside the Gate because 'You cant make progressive music with a punk rhthym section' I'm surprised they ever worked with him again. I'm glad they did. 'Brighter than a Thousand Suns' is also quite a 'proggy' album in places. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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tszirmay
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 23:45 | |
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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jammun
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: April 01 2010 at 22:44 | |
Depending on the crowd you hang out with...
Just gimme some Clash. Naw, they're not prog, but they're surely eclectic.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 15:09 | |
Nothing is in the same league as Cardiacs! I've heard a few of them wot's listed there, though. I picked up Silvery's album recently. They're dead good but rather poppy. They're more akin to Sparks than Cardiacs in some ways. The Display Team (formerly Mumrah) are basically ska-prog. Imagine a ska-pop band doing an impression of Gentle Giant with Cardiacs-esque chord progressions and you're basically there. Fun, but kinda hollow and contrived. Little Trophy sound very much like early Cardiacs with added screamo vocals for some reason. I checked out Scaramanga Six 'cause Tim Smith produced some of their stuff but it did nothing for me. Melancholy wall-of-noise alt rock type stuff. Never heard of the last one. |
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lucas
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 14:46 | |
I found this while browsing wikipedia :
Pronk, or "progressive punk", a very specific and complex sounding music genre invented by renowned singer-songwriter Tim Smith of Cardiacs also used to describe bands such as Silvery, The Display Team, Little Trophy, The Scaramanga Six, Kotúče DM.
I don't know either of the bands cited, if they are in the same league as Cardiacs I need to discover them urgently ! Edited by lucas - April 01 2010 at 14:47 |
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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The Hemulen
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 13:45 | |
Indeed, this. |
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CPicard
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 13:28 | |
Mike Oldfield's Punkaddidle is fine too.
Also: Steve Hillage's 1988 Generator. |
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himtroy
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:11 | |
I always felt like the band Crystal Antlers fit prog/punk pretty well. Its more of a punk kinda band on acid though, so more of a psych/punk combo.
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Citizen Erased
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 25 2009 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 192 |
Posted: April 01 2010 at 11:14 | |
thisthisthisthisthis |
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And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good
<a href="www.last.fm/user/jonzo67" targe |
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lucas
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 10:49 | |
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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refugee
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Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:46 | |
^^ Lydon actually said that he was influenced by Magma, Can, Captain Beefheart and Van der Graaf Generator.
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:26 | |
and how about Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? they definitely have a punk side too
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:21 | |
That was a very interesting read. Thanks for posting! I always knew Rotten was a progger at heart.. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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GermanPROG#1
Forum Newbie Joined: March 24 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany Status: Offline Points: 4 |
Posted: March 31 2010 at 21:50 | |
there are also the bands of named ARCHITECHTS
and also Propaghandi and they do very so much have
different sounds and progressive writings in music
for each of their last latest release albums.
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I may have bad english but I still am very much in love with prog!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 19:17 | |
How about this one (quoted from Wikki)?:
Album/Compact Disc/Cassette [1986]PiL's 1986 release was simply entitled Album, Compact Disc, or Cassette, depending on the format. The cover's blue typeface and spartan design parodied generic brands; promotional photos featured Lydon in a "generic blue" suit surrounded by generic foods and drinking generic beer. Produced by Bill Laswell (despite Lydon-fuelled faction and disunion) and with many of Laswell's usual rotating cast of musicians, it also featured guitar solos by Steve Vai, considered by Vai himself to be some of his best work. Jonas Hellborg, solo bassist and at the time, member of John McLaughlin's reformed band, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, played bass on the album. Jazz great Tony Williams and legendary Cream drummer Ginger Baker drummed on the album. Controversy reared again, with claims that the album cover and title concept had been stolen from the San Francisco noise/punk band, Flipper, contemporaries of PiL, whose album, Album, featured a similarly unadorned sleeve. Flipper retaliated by naming their next album, Public Flipper Limited. Neil Perry gave Album a positive review in the NME:
In the liner notes of PiL's Plastic Box compilation (1999), John Lydon remarked that:
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 31 2010 at 19:19 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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billy bob weible
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 18:42 | |
im glad to see that im not the only one who has noticed prog in punk this guy timbo was trying to tell me that there was no way to make punk progressive
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"How I wish that the world had just one throat and my fingers were around it"- idiot flesh
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Bonnek
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 16:06 | |
NoMeansNo ! Especially the album "Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy?" |
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:59 | |
Let me seee
Floating Anarchyeeee
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Help me I'm falling!
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:50 | |
The Volta/At the drive In/Omar punkprogheavy |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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