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    Posted: April 10 2010 at 06:31
Inde$troy by Saw Throat is a grindcore crustpunk concept album that might qualify.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2010 at 09:07
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I always regarded Killing Joke as a punk/prog band..


Absolutely, Love Like Blood is a perfect example= booming bass, thrashing drums, insistent guitar slashes and yes..... a massive mellotron blast !Big smile


You know it! In fact Jaz Coleman claimed that he had to sack Paul Ferguson and Raven before recording Outside the Gate because 'You cant make progressive music with a punk rhthym section' I'm surprised they ever worked with him again. I'm glad they did.

'Brighter than a Thousand Suns' is also quite a 'proggy' album in places.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 23:45
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I always regarded Killing Joke as a punk/prog band..
Absolutely, Love Like Blood is a perfect example= booming bass, thrashing drums, insistent guitar slashes and yes..... a massive mellotron blast !Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 22:44
Depending on the crowd you hang out with...
 
Just gimme some Clash.  Naw, they're not prog, but they're surely eclectic.
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 15:09
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Pablo_P Pablo_P wrote:

I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...)
No, Tim Smith used to describe Cardiacs' music as "psychedelic" or  "pop".
 
I found this while browsing wikipedia :
 
Pronk, or "progressive punk", a very specific and complex sounding music genre invented by renowned singer-songwriter Tim Smith of Cardiacs also used to describe bands such as Silvery, The Display Team, Little Trophy, The Scaramanga Six, Kotúče DM.
 
I don't know either of the bands cited, if they are in the same league as Cardiacs I need to discover them urgently !


Nothing is in the same league as Cardiacs! I've heard a few of them wot's listed there, though. I picked up Silvery's album recently. They're dead good but rather poppy. They're more akin to Sparks than Cardiacs in some ways. The Display Team (formerly Mumrah) are basically ska-prog. Imagine a ska-pop band doing an impression of Gentle Giant with Cardiacs-esque chord progressions and you're basically there. Fun, but kinda hollow and contrived. Little Trophy sound very much like early Cardiacs with added screamo vocals for some reason. Ermm I checked out Scaramanga Six 'cause Tim Smith produced some of their stuff but it did nothing for me. Melancholy wall-of-noise alt rock type stuff. Never heard of the last one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 14:46
Originally posted by Pablo_P Pablo_P wrote:

I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...)
No, Tim Smith used to describe Cardiacs' music as "psychedelic" or  "pop".
 
I found this while browsing wikipedia :
 
Pronk, or "progressive punk", a very specific and complex sounding music genre invented by renowned singer-songwriter Tim Smith of Cardiacs also used to describe bands such as Silvery, The Display Team, Little Trophy, The Scaramanga Six, Kotúče DM.
 
I don't know either of the bands cited, if they are in the same league as Cardiacs I need to discover them urgently !


Edited by lucas - April 01 2010 at 14:47
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 13:45
Originally posted by Citizen Erased Citizen Erased wrote:

Originally posted by Pablo_P Pablo_P wrote:

I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...) They are already at ProgArchives, you may check them out there:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1488

There are some of teir songs you may listen for free there. For me, Dirty Boy is amazing...




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Indeed, this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 13:28
Mike Oldfield's Punkaddidle is fine too.
Also: Steve Hillage's 1988 Generator.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 12:11
I always felt like the band Crystal Antlers fit prog/punk pretty well.  Its more of a punk kinda band on acid though, so more of a psych/punk combo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 11:14
Originally posted by Pablo_P Pablo_P wrote:

I can recommend you one band:
Cardiacs, they play prog punk (they even used to call their music pronk...) They are already at ProgArchives, you may check them out there:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1488

There are some of teir songs you may listen for free there. For me, Dirty Boy is amazing...




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 10:49
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:46
^^ Lydon actually said that he was influenced by Magma, Can, Captain Beefheart and Van der Graaf Generator.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:26
and how about Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? they definitely have a punk side too


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 09:21
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:



How about this one (quoted from Wikki)?:<h3><span id="Album.2FCompact_Disc.2FCassette_.5B1986.5D">Album/Compact
Disc
/Cassette [1986]</span></h3>

PiL's 1986 release was simply entitled Album,
Compact Disc, or Cassette, depending on the format. The
cover's blue typeface and spartan design parodied generic
brands
; promotional photos featured Lydon in a "generic blue" suit
surrounded by generic foods and drinking generic beer. Produced by Bill
Laswell
(despite Lydon-fuelled faction and disunion) and with many
of Laswell's usual rotating cast of musicians, it also featured guitar
solos by Steve Vai, considered by Vai himself to be some of his best
work. Jonas Hellborg, solo bassist and at the time, member of John McLaughlin's reformed band, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, played bass on the
album. Jazz great Tony Williams and legendary Cream drummer Ginger
Baker
drummed on the album. Controversy reared again, with claims
that the album cover and title concept had been stolen from the San
Francisco noise/punk band, Flipper, contemporaries of PiL, whose album, Album, featured a
similarly unadorned sleeve. Flipper retaliated by naming their next
album, Public Flipper Limited. Neil Perry gave Album a
positive review in the NME:



"This is a wonderful, stunning and equally confusing record, and
working on the theory that you'd never expect to hear the Lydon sneer
backed by prime metal riffing, that's exactly what you get. Not
everywhere, of course, as proved by the haunting "Rise". And "Ease", by
the way, with its shock-horror two minutes plus guitar solo, is quite
beautiful<span style="text-decoration: underline;">...</span><sup id="cite_ref-10"><span></span>



In the liner notes of PiL's Plastic Box compilation (1999),
John Lydon remarked that:



"In some ways Album was almost like a solo album. I worked
alone with a new bunch of people. Obviously the most important person
was Bill Laswell. But it was during the recording of this album in New
York that Miles Davis came into the studio while I was
singing, stood behind me and started playing. Later he said that I sang
like he played the trumpet, which is still the best thing anyone's ever
said to me. To be complimented by the likes of him was special. Funnily
enough we didn't use him..."<sup id="cite_ref-11"><span>[</span>12<span>"></span>





That was a very interesting read. Thanks for posting!

I always knew Rotten was a progger at heart..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 21:50
there are also the bands of named ARCHITECHTS
and also Propaghandi and they do very so much have
different sounds and progressive writings in music
for each of their last latest release albums.
I may have bad english but I still am very much in love with prog!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 19:17
How about this one (quoted from Wikki)?:

Album/Compact Disc/Cassette [1986]

PiL's 1986 release was simply entitled Album, Compact Disc, or Cassette, depending on the format. The cover's blue typeface and spartan design parodied generic brands; promotional photos featured Lydon in a "generic blue" suit surrounded by generic foods and drinking generic beer. Produced by Bill Laswell (despite Lydon-fuelled faction and disunion) and with many of Laswell's usual rotating cast of musicians, it also featured guitar solos by Steve Vai, considered by Vai himself to be some of his best work. Jonas Hellborg, solo bassist and at the time, member of John McLaughlin's reformed band, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, played bass on the album. Jazz great Tony Williams and legendary Cream drummer Ginger Baker drummed on the album. Controversy reared again, with claims that the album cover and title concept had been stolen from the San Francisco noise/punk band, Flipper, contemporaries of PiL, whose album, Album, featured a similarly unadorned sleeve. Flipper retaliated by naming their next album, Public Flipper Limited. Neil Perry gave Album a positive review in the NME:

"This is a wonderful, stunning and equally confusing record, and working on the theory that you'd never expect to hear the Lydon sneer backed by prime metal riffing, that's exactly what you get. Not everywhere, of course, as proved by the haunting "Rise". And "Ease", by the way, with its shock-horror two minutes plus guitar solo, is quite beautiful...

In the liner notes of PiL's Plastic Box compilation (1999), John Lydon remarked that:

"In some ways Album was almost like a solo album. I worked alone with a new bunch of people. Obviously the most important person was Bill Laswell. But it was during the recording of this album in New York that Miles Davis came into the studio while I was singing, stood behind me and started playing. Later he said that I sang like he played the trumpet, which is still the best thing anyone's ever said to me. To be complimented by the likes of him was special. Funnily enough we didn't use him..."[12]




Edited by Slartibartfast - March 31 2010 at 19:19
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 18:42

im glad to see that im not the only one who has noticed prog in punk

this guy timbo was trying to tell me that there was no way to make punk progressive
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 16:06

NoMeansNo !

Especially the album "Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy?"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:59
Let me seee
 
Floating Anarchyeeee
 
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Help me I'm falling!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 12:50

The Volta/At the drive In/Omar punkprogheavy

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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