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Poll Question: Are we still here on Earth in 2800? Why or why not?
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    Posted: May 06 2010 at 08:10
Such optimism, James...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2010 at 07:31
The Tories will STILL be in power. Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2010 at 07:20
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I'll bet we still won't have hover boots. Disapprove


Or robot butlers

Mind you, you can guarantee the Rolling Stones will still be touring

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2010 at 10:59
i am an eternal optimist but yep, we are indeed toast by 2800.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2010 at 00:48
Humans are an extraordinarily resourceful species. It may not resemble society as we know it today, but I would be very surprised if we're not still here and doing just fine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 20:13
The spirit will always carry on, everyone
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2010 at 13:05
Very funny, I think we are toast already (in a certain way) but 790 years from now, I do believe we will be gone....periodConfused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 21:42
I give the human race another 1000 years at least, the rest depends on your definition of "thriving".  Continuing on the path we are today those of us in traditionally strong countries will soon be living in Terry Gilliam's Brazil.  Be hard to say who will be where in 800 years but the near future belongs to the citizens of countries like Georgia, this I am sure of. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 12:28
Yes, we'll be here, but I cant imagine tis will be a great place to be. If global warming predictions are true - and yes, that's a big IF - then half of the UK will have been under water long before 2800. I imagine there will have been some big regional wars, in which nuclear weapons will have been used, rendering large parts of the world uninhabitable. The ever increasing population of the world may have been curtailed by some of these conflicts, indeed that may have been the subtext behind some of them. There will have been a bid to establish a one world government and currency, which may or may not have been a success. Religion will have been consigned to the history books..

On the other hand, things may be absoluetly fantastic. Science may have moved on to such a point, that diseases such as cancer and AID's are history. We may have colonies on the moon, maybe Mars. We may have established contact with other beings in the universe....

That said, my money is still on us basically being f***ed!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 12:16
There will be a clone of Dubya in the White House, and of Brown in Downing Street.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 10:07
(playing "Iconoclast" in my mind) So yeah have a bitchen day, brothers and sisters...
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 09:48
Yes, but it won't be pretty cause there will be a nuclear war and the goverments will build vaults all around the world where people will go live, then someone will escape in search of their fater a few hundred years later and find the world under the control of super mutants, raiders, The Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 09:36
after thinking about this for awhile, I've decided that the human race should be around for another 2300 years. Why I come up with this number, I have no idea. The year 2800 or 790 years from now is so completely do-able, espescially since human beings all over the world have this in common: We all want to Live.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 08:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


 
At the moment we can engineer at the atomic and genetic levels, as our knowledge of the subatomics increase, we will probably be engineering at that level at some point within the next within 800 years. Any speculation of nanotechnology is verging on the passé already, we are looking at pico, femto and atto technology and with that anything and everything is possible. Once mechanics enters the realm of the molecular we will be able to re-engineer anything that is malign into something more benign - this means anything from virus and humans all the way up to asteroids and whole planets.
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 08:30
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Yes, we'll survive, but the capitalists won't Evil Smile



I knew it!  LOLThanks for being honest about the game planLOLWink

but...

after you kill the last evil productive capitalists, do you really think the rest of the surviving mobs are going to be peaceful and just play nice with each other?

After they kill those who keep the order in this society, I'd rather be dead than live with what that aftermath looks like. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2010 at 05:26
I am torn beetween the second and the third solution
 
If we are still around  ib 2800, we've become unvoluntarily mutants....
1-  due to the pollution on this planet
2-  due to different graity (affecting our bones), because we're living on Mars ((0.8 G of Earth's G, considering the creation of an atmosphere and oceans)
 
 
if we didn't manage to escape to another planet, we suffocated under our own waste, much like the dinosaurs died under their farts, leaving the planet to ants and cockroaches to fight for it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2010 at 22:00
Yes, we'll survive, but the capitalists won't Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 14:11
^ Absolutely - it's impossible to speculate what the situation will be like in 800 years time, for whatever we can imagine now will pale into insignificance when compared to what actually will happen.
 
At the moment we can engineer at the atomic and genetic levels, as our knowledge of the subatomics increase, we will probably be engineering at that level at some point within the next within 800 years. Any speculation of nanotechnology is verging on the passé already, we are looking at pico, femto and atto technology and with that anything and everything is possible. Once mechanics enters the realm of the molecular we will be able to re-engineer anything that is malign into something more benign - this means anything from virus and humans all the way up to asteroids and whole planets.
 
We still won't have hover-boots though.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 13:11
A lot of you don't have much optimism and dare I say foresight. Have humans not shown themselves to be pretty resourceful? We're not talking 50 years in the future, here, but 790 years.

What catastrophic event can we think of that might kills us off:

1. Nuclear holocaust/winter

Even in the 70s and 80s, I doubt we actually would have killed ourselves off, at the height of all the brinksmanship. Even if the superpowers died off, there's no way all people would die off, unless somehow the earth could not recover from the nuclear holocaust, which I find even sillier--the earth is more resilient, though it might have taken more than 790 years to recover. I don't know. The real issue would be that loss of information if most people died. Could the less cultured people that might survive (because 3rd world countries are less likely to be the targets of nuclear war) be able to rebuild society as it was? How much of a setback would we suffer, and would our reconstructed world be the same? Those are the real questions.

2. Genetic supervirus

I know this is an issue, but I'm not to qualified to explain it well. But it seems to me that this would leave the least non-human damage in these scenarios, so the surviving humans would be able to pick up after the dead are gone with some ease. I think this is more targeted toward races and nationalities than the human race as a whole. I'm not sure if it would kill us all.

3. Asteroid collision

This is interesting. It's very unlikely we'd even be on a course to be hit by an asteroid in 790 years, let alone one that could wipe out all life on the earth. Let's understand that humans, even if they are not resourceful enough to stop the asteroid collision, then they sure are resourceful enough to have a few of them survive one. That is, unless, it's massive enough to knock the earth out of orbit, send it spinning to fast, break off a large enough chunk of it, or to crack it into halves. Then we'd have to alter its course, and I think we'd be given a heads up of hundreds or at least tens of years on the trajectory of an asteroid to be able to rally resources to at least give it a shot.

4. Climate change

There's no way we are doing enough damage to the earth whereby all humanity could not survive the consequences. Simple as that. If 99% of us die out in all of these scenarios, the rest of that 1% will make it work. Maybe we'll be a different species in millions of years after the fact in these scenarios, but we'll have survived. Never underestimate us.

And it's practically impossible to thing on a small scale what we would have done to ourselves. I imagine in less than 50 years many people in wealthy countries will have some sort of artificial chip/augmentation implanted in them. In a few hundred years why wouldn't we have at least been to Mars? And in 500 years how can we think of not being practically half-computer after birth? Think of the rate of technological advance. Suppose there's a backlash against integrating people and implants, etc in 200 years. Don't you think that the backlash would have been overcome in 300 years? No? Think about 400, 500, 600? It seems silly to me to think this wouldn't happen. Where were we 500 years ago? We can all imagine. Now think of 500 years from now at the rate of technological advance. We will be on the moon and Mars, and will have at least tried to terraform Mars (maybe it hasn't worked for some reason) but there's no reason to suppose we could try to do it in 500 years.

790 years, people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 13:10

We'll probably survive, but not without some sort of catastrophe along the way which will wipe out a large % of the population, be it manmade, a virus or a natural disaster. The most useful people in society will be people with a hands on type skill. Bankers will be the bottom of the pecking order. Wink

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