The Year is 2800
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Topic: The Year is 2800
Posted By: Finnforest
Subject: The Year is 2800
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 21:27
For fun. See question and choose the closest to your prediction. Feel free to say what you think will be the state of us in 800 years. If we're here what will be different? If we're not, why? ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 21:33
| I'm tempted to say "It won't be pretty 'cause I'll be dead by then." |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 22:25
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Life will become a cliched apocalyptic movie. Not pretty at all.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: March 27 2010 at 23:33
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One show provides all the evidence: Futurama. They showed civilization dying off several times between now and the year 3000, so I'm going to say Yes, but it won't be pretty.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 01:17
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How do you define "pretty"? I don't see any reason for us to collapse significantly. Cities have existed for 10,000 years, I don't see why they won't last another 800. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 02:11
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Voted for : Yes but it won't be pretty* *Probably to be inferred that humandkind will be even less loveable than we are now. ------------- 
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 05:56
| Damn, I meant to say toasted... Anyway, I think temp levels will be much higher than today (and not only from man-made global warming) so I guess life will be very hard, or even impossible |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 06:25
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I voted for the second option. I think in the future the natural sources that are in reach will be gone and our world is ruined by war and conflict on the last natural sources that are in reach. To make things worse, we have spilled lots of money by several failed attempts to make life on Mars possible. Also, the financial crisis will never end and global warning will still be a point of discussion.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 10:22
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Whether global climate change is true or not, the human race will have killed itself off in wars by then.
------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 16:40
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Thanks to the global warning naysayers, we're probably going to have to be someplace else. The question is whether in 800 years we can develop technologies to travel and colonize other locations... Subtract a few years of human existence for every 4 that the GOP holds power in the US. (though, if that happens, we'll all be owned by 5 guys who will have so much power that actually will manage to flee the planet... therefore, sentient beings will remain... Now if I want to call them human I'm not sure... )------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 18:48
^^  Yes, the human race is doomed because of a farking political party!Yes, we will exist and be OK in 2800. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 20:12
I'll bet we still won't have hover boots.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 20:15
As long as we still have the RPI.....
------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 20:27
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Yes but not pretty. I'm thinking WALL-E. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 28 2010 at 22:24
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Padraic wrote:Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 00:26
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2800? Sure we'll be here, in a manner of speaking, though at the very least we won't be very much like we are now. We'll have survived a couple of apocalypses, seen climate change come and go, maybe nuclear winter in some areas, but that passes in time. It's very unlikely humanity will die out anytime soon even from nuclear war. 9As far as I can think the most deadly and fearful human extinction even there is is a genetically engineered virus that can attack and kill various populations of people. This, if not possible now, should be completely possible in less than 100 years). By 2800 we'd have recouped any losses, overcome human population problems with controlled breeding, food problems with effective land management (skyscraper farms etc), and have terraformed the f**k out of Mars to a point where millions or more people are living there. If humanity makes it that far, unless there's a HUGE backlash, we'll all be cybernetic and connected by some sort of wireless Internet system internally (think real-life first-person shooter HUBs and universal knowledge). I imagine there may not even be breeding per se unless there is also forced "retirement" (suicide/murder) after a certain age because in 800 years, we're certainly to have the technology to completely rebuild the human body (if maybe not the brain, completely), thus making us at least somewhat immortal. Think about it, people. 800 years into the future at this rate of technological advance? To think we wouldn't have terraformed Mars, become cybernetic, and interconnected is not aiming too high. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 00:56
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Now, if you had a time machine, would you rather go into the future and find out, or travel into the past? I think I'd rather see the future, although if I could only go once I might use it to hang out with Jesus. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 01:19
According to some hypothesis buy a sciency guy, you could never travel back to a time when the machine you're traveling in didn't exist. No past for u. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 01:29
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Yeah, you're probably right. Videotaping Jesus would probably just piss off God anyway. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 01:44
| What if you go so far forward you go backward? Kind of like being so far out you're too far in. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 02:15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lets_go_to_Golgotha - ...Let's Go to Golgotha! ------------- What? |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 02:20
 Important if you go back in time instead of forward. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 02:28
Then choose for the future! I bet you don't need to go as far ahead as 2800  .------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 11:44
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Person, that poster is false, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_%28force%29 - planes do NOT fly because of slower moving, higher pressure air on the bottom of the wing . ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 14:43
Did any body see the old Sci Fi movie...........Soylent Green ?  ------------- Matt |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 14:50
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Don't we have to get through 2012 first? ------------- 
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 15:05
I did, but that was 2020 if I remember it right. -------------
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 15:15
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 29 2010 at 21:34
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I have no idea what will happen. But one thing is for sure: there will still be a f**king DFS sale on.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 30 2010 at 07:34
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If you had asked me in the late '70's if we'd still be around now, I wouldn't have thought so, and therefore I'm not entirely convinced that we are now. I am also convinced that I won't be around then unless some maniac puts my head in a jar like Futurama.
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Posted By: leifthewarrior
Date Posted: March 30 2010 at 09:09
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Im sure life on this planet will be divided into two social differences, the very rich and powerful and the poor surfs. For the poor surfs, I can see many local communities being overrun by gangs and lawless crime lords. While the rich elite keep the poor poorer by continuing to implement communist ideologies. As far as other planets are concerned, yes other planets. I can see those new colonies breaking away from the motherland, i.e. earth, in rebellion. Fighting for freedom. |
Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: March 30 2010 at 11:30
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.."soylent earth is made of...FISHIES!!" ------------- assume the power 1586/14.3 |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: March 31 2010 at 03:07
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I vote for the first option.
World war II and the plague failed to destroy us so nothing can.
The global warming is more histery than reality so no major climate change will occur.
We will have to restrict our population growth one way or another and improve land fertility but we have the tools to do it even today.
Will our sons be happier than we are ? That's a good question. I hope they'll learn that having a lot does not mean more happiness. ------------- omri |
Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: March 31 2010 at 03:30
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hahahahah come on PEOPLE..... there will be (how do you say Ay yes!) NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!! in the year 2800 because we have already been to that time
There is after all nothing ever at the beginning and the end
790 years no way humans are with it on Earth.com ------------- assume the power 1586/14.3 |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 31 2010 at 11:02
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If I make it that far, I'll let you know. -------------
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: March 31 2010 at 13:10
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We'll probably survive, but not without some sort of catastrophe along the way which will wipe out a large % of the population, be it manmade, a virus or a natural disaster. The most useful people in society will be people with a hands on type skill. Bankers will be the bottom of the pecking order. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 31 2010 at 13:11
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A lot of you don't have much optimism and dare I say foresight. Have humans not shown themselves to be pretty resourceful? We're not talking 50 years in the future, here, but 790 years. What catastrophic event can we think of that might kills us off: 1. Nuclear holocaust/winter Even in the 70s and 80s, I doubt we actually would have killed ourselves off, at the height of all the brinksmanship. Even if the superpowers died off, there's no way all people would die off, unless somehow the earth could not recover from the nuclear holocaust, which I find even sillier--the earth is more resilient, though it might have taken more than 790 years to recover. I don't know. The real issue would be that loss of information if most people died. Could the less cultured people that might survive (because 3rd world countries are less likely to be the targets of nuclear war) be able to rebuild society as it was? How much of a setback would we suffer, and would our reconstructed world be the same? Those are the real questions. 2. Genetic supervirus I know this is an issue, but I'm not to qualified to explain it well. But it seems to me that this would leave the least non-human damage in these scenarios, so the surviving humans would be able to pick up after the dead are gone with some ease. I think this is more targeted toward races and nationalities than the human race as a whole. I'm not sure if it would kill us all. 3. Asteroid collision This is interesting. It's very unlikely we'd even be on a course to be hit by an asteroid in 790 years, let alone one that could wipe out all life on the earth. Let's understand that humans, even if they are not resourceful enough to stop the asteroid collision, then they sure are resourceful enough to have a few of them survive one. That is, unless, it's massive enough to knock the earth out of orbit, send it spinning to fast, break off a large enough chunk of it, or to crack it into halves. Then we'd have to alter its course, and I think we'd be given a heads up of hundreds or at least tens of years on the trajectory of an asteroid to be able to rally resources to at least give it a shot. 4. Climate change There's no way we are doing enough damage to the earth whereby all humanity could not survive the consequences. Simple as that. If 99% of us die out in all of these scenarios, the rest of that 1% will make it work. Maybe we'll be a different species in millions of years after the fact in these scenarios, but we'll have survived. Never underestimate us. And it's practically impossible to thing on a small scale what we would have done to ourselves. I imagine in less than 50 years many people in wealthy countries will have some sort of artificial chip/augmentation implanted in them. In a few hundred years why wouldn't we have at least been to Mars? And in 500 years how can we think of not being practically half-computer after birth? Think of the rate of technological advance. Suppose there's a backlash against integrating people and implants, etc in 200 years. Don't you think that the backlash would have been overcome in 300 years? No? Think about 400, 500, 600? It seems silly to me to think this wouldn't happen. Where were we 500 years ago? We can all imagine. Now think of 500 years from now at the rate of technological advance. We will be on the moon and Mars, and will have at least tried to terraform Mars (maybe it hasn't worked for some reason) but there's no reason to suppose we could try to do it in 500 years. 790 years, people. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 31 2010 at 14:11
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^ Absolutely - it's impossible to speculate what the situation will be like in 800 years time, for whatever we can imagine now will pale into insignificance when compared to what actually will happen.
At the moment we can engineer at the atomic and genetic levels, as our knowledge of the subatomics increase, we will probably be engineering at that level at some point within the next within 800 years. Any speculation of nanotechnology is verging on the passé already, we are looking at pico, femto and atto technology and with that anything and everything is possible. Once mechanics enters the realm of the molecular we will be able to re-engineer anything that is malign into something more benign - this means anything from virus and humans all the way up to asteroids and whole planets.
We still won't have hover-boots though.
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: April 01 2010 at 22:00
Yes, we'll survive, but the capitalists won't 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 05:26
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I am torn beetween the second and the third solution
If we are still around ib 2800, we've become unvoluntarily mutants....
1- due to the pollution on this planet
2- due to different graity (affecting our bones), because we're living on Mars ((0.8 G of Earth's G, considering the creation of an atmosphere and oceans)
if we didn't manage to escape to another planet, we suffocated under our own waste, much like the dinosaurs died under their farts, leaving the planet to ants and cockroaches to fight for it. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 08:30
I knew it! Thanks for being honest about the game planbut... after you kill the last evil productive capitalists, do you really think the rest of the surviving mobs are going to be peaceful and just play nice with each other? After they kill those who keep the order in this society, I'd rather be dead than live with what that aftermath looks like. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 08:33
That is so cool to think about.  ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 09:36
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after thinking about this for awhile, I've decided that the human race should be around for another 2300 years. Why I come up with this number, I have no idea. The year 2800 or 790 years from now is so completely do-able, espescially since human beings all over the world have this in common: We all want to Live.
Now, back to the molecular state of Coffee in the morning ------------- assume the power 1586/14.3 |
Posted By: Tursake
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 09:48
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Yes, but it won't be pretty cause there will be a nuclear war and the goverments will build vaults all around the world where people will go live, then someone will escape in search of their fater a few hundred years later and find the world under the control of super mutants, raiders, The Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel. ------------- 
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 10:07
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(playing "Iconoclast" in my mind) So yeah have a bitchen day, brothers and sisters...
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 03 2010 at 12:16
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There will be a clone of Dubya in the White House, and of Brown in Downing Street. Sure not pretty.  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 12:28
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Yes, we'll be here, but I cant imagine tis will be a great place to be. If global warming predictions are true - and yes, that's a big IF - then half of the UK will have been under water long before 2800. I imagine there will have been some big regional wars, in which nuclear weapons will have been used, rendering large parts of the world uninhabitable. The ever increasing population of the world may have been curtailed by some of these conflicts, indeed that may have been the subtext behind some of them. There will have been a bid to establish a one world government and currency, which may or may not have been a success. Religion will have been consigned to the history books..
On the other hand, things may be absoluetly fantastic. Science may have moved on to such a point, that diseases such as cancer and AID's are history. We may have colonies on the moon, maybe Mars. We may have established contact with other beings in the universe.... That said, my money is still on us basically being f***ed! ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 04 2010 at 21:42
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I give the human race another 1000 years at least, the rest depends on your definition of "thriving". Continuing on the path we are today those of us in traditionally strong countries will soon be living in Terry Gilliam's Brazil. Be hard to say who will be where in 800 years but the near future belongs to the citizens of countries like Georgia, this I am sure of. -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: April 07 2010 at 13:05
Very funny, I think we are toast already (in a certain way) but 790 years from now, I do believe we will be gone....period ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: April 23 2010 at 20:13
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The spirit will always carry on, everyone
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: April 24 2010 at 00:48
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Humans are an extraordinarily resourceful species. It may not resemble society as we know it today, but I would be very surprised if we're not still here and doing just fine.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: April 24 2010 at 10:59
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i am an eternal optimist but yep, we are indeed toast by 2800. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 07:20
Or robot butlers 
Mind you, you can guarantee the Rolling Stones will still be touring ------------- 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 07:31
The Tories will STILL be in power. 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 08:10
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Such optimism, James... -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |