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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Online Points: 18044 |
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Hi,
Bahhhhh .... none of these ... gimme Alan Stivell anytime! ... and he does progressive mixes and music too!
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XTChuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 21 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 407 |
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ZAPPA - Uncle Meat Main Title Theme
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Phideaux ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2007 Status: Offline Points: 378 |
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Damn, Wanderer is on of my FAVE songs EVER. What a track!
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halabalushindigus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 05 2009 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 1438 |
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oh this is something I immediately thought of and I really like it alot. That would be Nektar's Magic Is A Child
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2156 |
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For the record, found that theses also seem to be using the harpsichord:
Tiny Goddess Nirvana (?/July '67)
Osamu's Birthday The United States Of America (Dec '67/March '68)
The American Way of Life The United States Of America (Dec '67/March '68)
Afterwards Van Der Graaf Generator (Jan/Sep '69) (more likely piano?)
I know for a fact, that the USA used harpsichord but it is very difficult to find in the mix on their '67 output so I could be mistaken on the choices above.
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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When this subject raised its head a couple of years ago, that was the initial thought. However, inevitably folks provided lists and it became increasingly evident , not so uncommon from the mid to the end fo the 60's, as pop and rock musicians went looking for a new sound to augment the drums, bass, guitar and voice. Then affordable synths arrived, than gave new sounds/colours to music and eventually could also be made to imitate harpsichords or Hammond organs, etc.
As I pointed out Elektra Records appeared to hire or buy one in for quite some time, as found on a number of recordings by their artists. You might expect the bigger studios tied to the big record labels (e.g. Decca and EMI in the UK), were recording serious music as well as pop and rock, and again producers/musicians would find harpsichords "available" in the building. But then looking at the size of many other record labels and independent recording studios, and I'm left wondering whether they could afford to hire, let alone buy a Moog synthesiser for other than the bands who were guaranteed to make profit. Hence it is suggested Decca, EMI, RCA, Columbia had the Moog and other things that took their fancy. BTW Mellotrons were a different issue, being initially UK built and used, e.g the Graham Bond Organisation owning and producing one of the first recordings in 1964/5.
For "unlikely" I would go for spinette (I can only think of a single use, ie. in conjunction with harpsichord by the Stones on Lady Jane). Vibes/vibephones were less common than harpsichord although more affordable (and transportable - as Ollie Hassall of Timebox and Patto showed). However, typical of PA, suggest an uncommon type of instrument and I guarantee there'll be dozens of responses tell us this is not true.... as occurred with the harmonium some time ago.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I'm going for Blind by Deep Purple too.
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What?
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Such an unlikely instrument for rock music.
I went with the Soft Parade. |
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Cactus Choir ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2008 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
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I might be wrong but isn't this just piano and organ rather than harpsichord? |
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caretaker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 19 2010 Location: united states Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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the doors "the crystal ship".
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2156 |
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Well it's a pity that harpsichord is not used on Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite otherwise it would clearly be the preferred harpsichord proto-prog track
![]() There's no distinct preference for any of the remaining songs so I raise the question once again.
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Ronnie Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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Yeah, it's auto-censoring the word +wa+ ! And that's the problem with censorship in general. Just ask Tommy Smothers!
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Strikes me the Doors' label Elektra Records were using harpsicord "extensively" - presumably because it was cheaper and easier to use than a Moog synthesiser, which the wealthier record labels/studios were going for at the time - check out the 4 CD boxset sampling the first 10 years of recordings from that label: Forever Changing - where you'll find along with the Doors, Love (check out the De Capo album more fully as well), Judy Collins and several more obscure bands having the harpsicholrd included in their work. Edited by Dick Heath - May 05 2010 at 06:46 |
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Floydman ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: November 24 2009 Status: Offline Points: 67 |
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This probably doesn't count but I like the simulation of the harpsichord on "In My Life" and Paul use of the clavichord which is a sister instrument of the harpsichord on "For No One". One Beatles track that mixes the harpsichord with some heavy overdriven guitar sounds is "Not Guilty". It's a bizarre mixing of classical and hard rock. Edited by Floydman - April 14 2010 at 10:20 |
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2156 |
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I overlooked The Moody Blues' House of Four Doors Pt.1, another fine example of harpsichord use.
It was recorded January-June '68 between Dawn and In Held Twas In I.
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2156 |
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Oh, before any off the list, in August (September) '64 the Beach Boys recorded (released) When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) with harpsichord.
Yet another testament to their progressive leanings.
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Great choice, earlyprog! I'll go with Rolling Stones' Play With Fire... a song of unsurpassed beauty and non-pretentiousness.
I must mention another one, not on your list: Sport (The Odd Boy) by The Bonzo Dog Band. Incredible. |
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2156 |
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The list represents 7 uses of harpsichord in a classical context (Nice/ars, Sweet_water/storybook, Doors/soft, Bakerloo, Beatles/because, Renaissance, Man), 6 in R&B (Yardbirds, Beatles/fixing, Traffic, Procol Harum, Sweet_water/Pete, Doors/soft), 4 uses in folk (Rolling Stones, Sweet_water/storybook, Bowie, Renaissance), 3 uses in space rock (H.P. Lovecraft, Group 1850, Beatles/because), 3 in US psyche (H.P. Lovecraft, Sweet_water/Pete/storybook), 2 in UK psyche (Nice/dawn, Beatles/piggies).
Of the classical examples those without brass/strings/woodwind work best in my opinion, i.e. Beatles/because and Renaissance, while in R&B the percussive and/or woodwind examples are best (in the former case, the Yardbirds, in the latter case Traffic and Sweet_water). Generally, folk is the best environment for the harpsichord IMO; Wakeman delivers a superb performance on Cygnet Committee - very novel in his approach far from the traditional use. Hence, this gets my vote.
Perhaps surprisingly, the use of harpsichord in Space rock is also quite unique but works very well, especially for Group 1850. It's use in UK psyche is rare, but the unusual, bombastic use in Beatles/pigges is great, but I see it more as a joke.
The eclectic environment (woodwind, strings, brass) works very well in US psyche, as opposed to classical. Again, I prefer the more bombastic use in Sweet_water's Storybook.
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2156 |
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The new info is much appreciated, Whistler, Aginor and Cactus Choir
![]() BTW, Beatles' Fixing A Hole uses harpsichord.
And it seems that The Doors used it extensively - relatively anyway.
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The Whistler ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
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No idea what the harpsichord in "Kite" is, except that it's not a harpsichord. Likewise, the "harpsichord" in "Shaman's Blues" is a synth, t'would seem; the harpsichord in "Love Me Two Times" is an electric clavichord. Therefore, it gets my vote. Or maybe "Walk Away Renee." |
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