Masterpieces or not ?

Titan wrote: We have a lot of "masterpieces": Dark Side Of The moon, Close To the edge, Foxtrot, Wish you were here etc. iam curious which "masterpieces" you dont consider as masterpiece for example me: Close to the edge: really great album without doubt, but too overrated, i heard a lot of better albums than this, Yes has better albums imo, (Relayer)

I don't concider anything by Pink Floyd to be a masterpiece really. They're above the regular standards though.

Can't you all see that taste is a feeling depending on time, personal circumstances and knowlegde???? - I personally like "Close to the edge" by YES, I like "Selling England ..." by GENESIS, but I dislike RUSH "Moving pictures". I can tell you why. For me, really very personally, the RUSH record has no development in the musical time line. So I don't like it very much. I can listen to it, but I'm far away from loving it. "Selling England ..." makes my hair standing up on my  back. That is a criteria of quality - for me. For others RUSH is doing the same job. But not for me. - The question is: why? And no one can tell you the reason for that. It is taste. Pure taste. It's a part of getting socialized, having special backgrounds or being born in a certain year. - There is no link between them. It just exists. The different taste.

What is taste?

Stop it.

Snow Dog wrote: I thought this thread was about masterpieces that members didn't like , not "name the albums that you think are masterpieces" Anyway, any album that is claimed to be a masterpiece is a bit of a pretentious claim IMO

"Pretentious Moi"   

(anag)

 

From the Oxford Dictionary:

masterpiece 1 an outstanding piece of artistry or workmanship
2 a person's best work

Sounds pretty subjective to me...for instance, I consider Grave New World
to be the Strawbs' best work. I don't consider Hybris to be an outstanding
piece of artistry.

Why? Because I'm me...was it nature or nurture? Did my parents warp my
mind in some way that resulted in a lack of appreciation for Anglagard?
Who knows.

[QUOTE=Heptade]Grave New World is indeed a masterpiece. QUOTE]

 

A record I get out and play occasionally nowadays - indeed played New World on my radioshow last Thursday - but never a masterpiece to my ears (one reason evident: because it only comes to play  with me on occasions not regularly or often).

spectral wrote: Any hoot, calling something a masterpiece is a subjective viewpoint and that is just plain wrong.

why is a subjective statement about music plain wrong?
It's quite obvious that albums are only masterpieces for particular people and not for everyone. And that's what the thread's asking for...
so what's wrong about that?
 

foxtrot!!! it's a great album, of course, but for me it's a 4 stars.

crime of the century....

tales from topographic oceans....

not to mention the two most absurd overrating cases in all history:

frances the mute and DITC - the mars volta,.......whoever sayd that a reflex of the overall poor quality of newer releases is probably right.....good albums thought

Lark's Tongue in Aspic is starting to annoy me, so if u consider it a masterpiece, I disagree.
And a Farewell to Kings, just don't conside it a masterpiece....

spectral wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Anyway, any album that is claimed to be a masterpiece is a bit of a pretentious claim IMO Are you saying that the band are pretentious or the person who makes the claim is pretentious? Anyway, can any album truly be called a masterpiece?  Is there actually an album which everyone considers flawless...I doubt it - in which case, there can never really be a masterpiece.

I would say that whoever claimed it.........pretentious and a bit precious too!........in about 99% of cases

I'm making this up as I go along you know, sounds alright tho

Snow Dog wrote: Anyway, any album that is claimed to be a masterpiece is a bit of a pretentious claim IMO

Are you saying that the band are pretentious or the person who makes the claim is pretentious?

Anyway, can any album truly be called a masterpiece?  Is there actually an album which everyone considers flawless...I doubt it - in which case, there can never really be a masterpiece.