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omri
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Topic: Do you think there is a true prog album.. Posted: May 23 2005 at 11:06 |
I must add my voice on the tarkus question. I think it is one of the best epics ever and I do'nt agree you can cut it to pieces. When does mass change to manticore ? (after the singing it turns to manticore than another singing).
I would also claim that the las 4 parts of "In the thresshold of a dream" is realy one epic suite I call "the dream".
Point of know return I remembered that both "Closet chronicles & "Hoplessly human" were much more than 5 minutes so I did not mention it even though I love this album.
Aaron, do'nt be angry please. I think it's a nice game to play and some found a true solutions (not me unfortunately) but it is just a game. If I'll ask you what music you like you will never consider it's length as a criterion.
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Sekkyoku
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 09:09 |
Kansas, Point Of Know Return. At least itīs close.
Track listing 1. Point of know return (3:11) 2. Paradox (3:49) 3. The spider (2:08) 4. Portrait (He knew) (4:32) 5. Closet chronicles (6:30) 6. Lightning hand (4:21) 7. Dust in the wind (3:26) 8. Sparks of the tempest (4:15) 9. Nobody's home (4:37) 10. Hopelessly human (7:10)
Total Time: 43:59
Ok, Point Of Know Return is not as progressive as Tarkus or Octopus, since the songs are a bit commercialized and radio edited, but I still think of it as a progressive rock classic.
Take care now.
Edited by Sekkyoku
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VLADO
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:34 |
one of the best
pavlov's dog
pampered menial
1. Julia (3:10) 2. Late november (3:12) 3. Song dance (4:59) 4. Fast gun (3:04) 5. Natchez trace (3:42) 6. Theme from subway Sue (4:25) 7. Episode (4:04) 8. Preludin (1:39) 9. Of once and future kings (5:27) academic 27 seconds
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...and in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make...
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:32 |
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the dragon
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:24 |
EL&P - TARKUS!
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Geee
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:06 |
richardh wrote:
ELP - Tarkus
The six tracks that make up the suite are seperately listed on the album cover and easily identifiable.(They are not parts 1 -6)
Muse - Absolution
This is a prog album IMO.Without checking I'm sure all the songs are under 5 minutes in length.
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Butterflies and Hurricanes is 5:02 - Now if that's not close!!
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Mategra
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Posted: May 23 2005 at 07:34 |
Crisis in Clay by 5uu's
1. Comeuppance (3:48) 2. Broadside Hits and Near Misses (2:21) 3. How-To's of Self Taught (3:40) 4. Bought the Farm (4:19) 5. Simply Agree (1:38) 6. Goliath in the Sights (4:18) 7. December (2:55) 8. Hunter Gatherer (3:30) 9. What Price Virtue? (3:19) 10. Darkened Door (4:54) 11. Encounter (3:26) 12. Willful Suspension of Disbelief (3:41) 13. Cirrus (3:38) 14. Weaponry (1:11) 15. Absolutely, Absolute (3:48) 16. Ringing in the New Ear (0:42)
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 21:00 |
threefates wrote:
ELP: Tarkus
Track listing 1. Eruption (2:44) 2. Stones Of Years (3:44) 3. Iconoclast (1:16) 4. Mass (3:12) 5. Manticore (1:52) 6. Battlefield (3:51) 7. Aquatarkus (4:04) 8. Jeremy Bender (1:51) 9. Bitches Crystal (3:58) 10. The Only Way (Hymn)(3:49) Toccata in F and Prelude VI (themes used in intro and bridge only)composed by: Bach 11. Infinite Space (Conclusion)(3:20) 12. A Time And A Place (3:02) 13. Are You Ready Eddy? (2:10)
Total ime: 38:56
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I would call that cheating
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 20:25 |
In this thread it is the spectre at the feast. else it would have been the best one to meat the rules.
great album
exile you show no mercy.
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gdub411
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:55 |
1. Witch hunt (4:17) 2. An angel falls (1:13) 3. Painted man (4:41) 4. This way madness lies (3:35) 5. Spectre at the feast (5:34) 6. Never ending night (3:23) 7. Skin game (4:43) 8. Salamander (3:59) 9. On the box (2:40) 10. Tsunami (2:38) 11. Bitter harvest (2:52) 12. The city of lanterns (1:22) 13. Riding the tide (4:28) 14. Mea culpa (3:46) 15. Cutting the cards (4:57) 16. Ascension (4:34)
I know I'll get scrutinized for Arena being Neo-Prog but Contagion comes close enough in my opinion.
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:14 |
Actually the Strawbs had a few good albums with songs all under 5 minutes:
Strawbs - From the Witchwood: 1971
Track listing Side 1 1. Glimpse Of Heaven (3:50) 2. Witchwood (3:20) 3. Thirty Days (2:50) 4. Flight (4:25) 5. The Hangman And The Papist (4:10) Side 2 6. Sheep (4:15) 7. Canon Dale (3:40) 8. The Shepherd's Song (2:50) 9. In Amongst The Roses (3:45) 10. I'll Carry On Beside You (3:10)
Total Time: 36:15
Strawbs - Deep Cuts: 1976
Track listing 1. I only want my love to grow in you (2:59) 2. Turn me round (3:43) 3. Hard hard Winter (2:55) 4. My friend Peter (2:15) 5. The soldier's tale (4:15) 6. Simple visions (4:36) 7. Charmer (3:13) 8. Wasting my time (Thinking of you) (2:28) 9. Beside the Rio Grande (4:19) 10. So close and yet so far away (2:59)
Total Time: 33:42
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:02 |
Aaron wrote:
curious about this i guess, right now i am listening
to Soft Machines Volume II for the first time, every track is under 5
minutes, but my opinion isnt valid because, give me a break it's my
first listen
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SM were forced to give long tunes each a number of titles per segment by the record company ABC Records. Yes would have fun if Atlantic had put similar pressure on to title every segment of Topographic Oceans
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:17 |
Buckethead - The Cuckoo Clocks From Hell; Avant-garde riffbased prog metal:
1. Descent of the Damned (3:06)
2. Spokes for the Wheel of Torment (2:17)
3. Arc of the Pendulum (2:32)
4. Fountains of the Forgotten (3:22)
5. The Treeman (3:40)
6. Pylegathon (2:35)
7. Travelling Morgue (3:18)
8. One Tooth of the Time Train (3:27)
9. Bedlam's Bluff (3:15)
10. Beaten With Sledges (2:52)
11. Woods of Suicides (3:28)
12. Yellowed Hide (3:28)
13. Moths to Flame (3:13)
14. The Ravines of Falsehood (3:11)
15. The Black Forest (2:12)
16. Haven of Black Tar Pitch (3:19)
17. The Escape Wheel (2:52)
No proper track listing on the web - had to transcribe.
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:16 |
Al Volo by Stormy Six is a near miss (one track is 17 seconds out)...
Cardiacs' On Land and In Sea has a couple of offending tracks... Mnope, doesn't look like I can find any that haven't already been mentioned...
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frenchie
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:08 |
captain beefheart - safe as milk and clear spot! great albums!
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Vegetableman
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:07 |
Rovescio Della Medaglia's Contaminazione
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Absent for this consumend World (1:17)
- Ora non ricordo piu (3:41)
- Il suono del silenzio (3:32)
- Mi sono svegliato e..ho chiuso gli occhi (3:56)
- Lei sei tu: Lei (2:04)
- La mia musica (4:10)
- Johann (1:23)
- Scotland Machine (3:06)
- Cella 503 (3:17)
- Contaminazione 1760 (1:04)
- Alzo un muro elettrico (2:42)
- Sweet Suite (3:12)
- La grande fuga
(2:59)
Art Bear's Winter Songs
- The Bath of Stars (1:45)
- First Things First (2:41)
- Gold (1:40)
- The Summer Wheel (2:47)
- The Slave (3:38)
- The Hermit (2:59)
- Rats and Monkeys (3:14)
- The Skeleton (3:11)
- The Winter Wheel (3:06)
- Man and Boy (3:22)
- Winter/War/Force/Three Figures (5:51)
- Three Wheels (3:38)
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"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."
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frenchie
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:04 |
pics at an ex is pretty close. only track going over time by 1:26.
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threefates
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:00 |
Remastered on Rhino Records - May 21, 1996.
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nacho
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:00 |
Not a perfect prog album, but something more than pop:
Blackfield - Blackfield 1. Open Mind (3:50) 2. Blackfield (4:07) 3. Glow (4:00) 4. Scars (3:57) 5. Lullaby (3:29) 6. Pain (3:47) 7. Summer (4:12) 8. Cloudy Now (3:34) 9. The Hole In Me (2:47) 10. Hello (3:09)
Total Time: 36:52
Only two out of ten slightly longer than 4:00!!!
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:54 |
threefates wrote:
I don't know.. I've got a cd of Tarkus right here in
front of me.. and its not released as one track... what chu looking
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The 2001 Sanctury Records remaster with "extensive liner notes".
What chu looking at?
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