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    Posted: May 23 2005 at 11:06

I must add my voice on the tarkus question. I think it is one of the best epics ever and I do'nt agree you can cut it to pieces. When does mass change to manticore ? (after the singing it turns to manticore than another singing).

I would also claim that the las 4 parts of "In the thresshold of a dream" is realy one epic suite I call "the dream".

Point of know return I remembered that both "Closet chronicles & "Hoplessly human" were much more than 5 minutes so I did not mention it even though I love this album.

Aaron, do'nt be angry please. I think it's a nice game to play and some found a true solutions (not me unfortunately) but it is just a game. If I'll ask you what music you like you will never consider it's length as a criterion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 09:09

Kansas, Point Of Know Return. At least itīs close. 

Track listing
1. Point of know return (3:11)
2. Paradox (3:49)
3. The spider (2:08)
4. Portrait (He knew) (4:32)
5. Closet chronicles (6:30)
6. Lightning hand (4:21)
7. Dust in the wind (3:26)
8. Sparks of the tempest (4:15)
9. Nobody's home (4:37)
10. Hopelessly human (7:10)

Total Time: 43:59

Ok, Point Of Know Return is not as progressive as Tarkus or Octopus, since the songs are a bit commercialized and radio edited, but I still think of it as a progressive rock classic.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:34

one of the best

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1. Julia (3:10)
2. Late november (3:12)
3. Song dance (4:59)
4. Fast gun (3:04)
5. Natchez trace (3:42)
6. Theme from subway Sue (4:25)
7. Episode (4:04)
8. Preludin (1:39)
9. Of once and future kings (5:27) academic 27 seconds

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:32

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I don't know.. I've got a cd of Tarkus right here in front of me.. and its not released as one track... what chu looking at??


The 2001 Sanctury Records remaster with "extensive liner notes".

What chu looking at?

That Sanctuary release is really f****ed up then!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:24
EL&P - TARKUS!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:06
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP - Tarkus

The six tracks that make up the suite are seperately listed on the album cover and easily identifiable.(They are not parts 1 -6)

 

Muse - Absolution

This is a prog album IMO.Without checking I'm sure all the songs are under 5 minutes in length.

 

Butterflies and Hurricanes is 5:02 - Now if that's not close!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 07:34

Crisis in Clay by 5uu's

1. Comeuppance (3:48)
2. Broadside Hits and Near Misses (2:21)
3. How-To's of Self Taught (3:40)
4. Bought the Farm (4:19)
5. Simply Agree (1:38)
6. Goliath in the Sights (4:18)
7. December (2:55)
8. Hunter Gatherer (3:30)
9. What Price Virtue? (3:19)
10. Darkened Door (4:54)
11. Encounter (3:26)
12. Willful Suspension of Disbelief (3:41)
13. Cirrus (3:38)
14. Weaponry (1:11)
15. Absolutely, Absolute (3:48)
16. Ringing in the New Ear (0:42)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 21:00
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

ELP: Tarkus

Track listing
1. Eruption (2:44)
2. Stones Of Years (3:44)
3. Iconoclast (1:16)
4. Mass (3:12)
5. Manticore (1:52)
6. Battlefield (3:51)
7. Aquatarkus (4:04)
8. Jeremy Bender (1:51)
9. Bitches Crystal (3:58)
10. The Only Way (Hymn)(3:49)
Toccata in F and Prelude VI (themes used in intro and bridge only)composed by: Bach
11. Infinite Space (Conclusion)(3:20)
12. A Time And A Place (3:02)
13. Are You Ready Eddy? (2:10)

Total ime: 38:56

I would call that cheating

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 20:25
In this thread it is the spectre at the feast. else it would have been the best one to meat the rules.

great album

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:55

1. Witch hunt (4:17)
2. An angel falls (1:13)
3. Painted man (4:41)
4. This way madness lies (3:35)
5. Spectre at the feast (5:34)
6. Never ending night (3:23)
7. Skin game (4:43)
8. Salamander (3:59)
9. On the box (2:40)
10. Tsunami (2:38)
11. Bitter harvest (2:52)
12. The city of lanterns (1:22)
13. Riding the tide (4:28)
14. Mea culpa (3:46)
15. Cutting the cards (4:57)
16. Ascension (4:34)

 

I know I'll get scrutinized for Arena being Neo-Prog but Contagion comes close enough in my opinion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:14

Actually the Strawbs had a few good albums with songs all under 5 minutes:

Strawbs - From the Witchwood: 1971

Track listing
Side 1
1. Glimpse Of Heaven (3:50)
2. Witchwood (3:20)
3. Thirty Days (2:50)
4. Flight (4:25)
5. The Hangman And The Papist (4:10)
Side 2
6. Sheep (4:15)
7. Canon Dale (3:40)
8. The Shepherd's Song (2:50)
9. In Amongst The Roses (3:45)
10. I'll Carry On Beside You (3:10)

Total Time: 36:15

Strawbs - Deep Cuts: 1976

Track listing
1. I only want my love to grow in you (2:59)
2. Turn me round (3:43)
3. Hard hard Winter (2:55)
4. My friend Peter (2:15)
5. The soldier's tale (4:15)
6. Simple visions (4:36)
7. Charmer (3:13)
8. Wasting my time (Thinking of you) (2:28)
9. Beside the Rio Grande (4:19)
10. So close and yet so far away (2:59)

Total Time: 33:42

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 19:02
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

curious about this i guess, right now i am listening to Soft Machines Volume II for the first time, every track is under 5 minutes, but my opinion isnt valid because, give me a break it's my first listen

Aaron



SM were forced to give long tunes each a number of titles per segment  by the record company ABC Records. Yes would have fun if Atlantic had put similar pressure on to title every segment of Topographic Oceans
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:17

Buckethead - The Cuckoo Clocks From Hell; Avant-garde riffbased prog metal:

1. Descent of the Damned (3:06)

2. Spokes for the Wheel of Torment (2:17)

3. Arc of the Pendulum (2:32)

4. Fountains of the Forgotten (3:22)

5. The Treeman (3:40)

6. Pylegathon (2:35)

7. Travelling Morgue (3:18)

8. One Tooth of the Time Train (3:27)

9. Bedlam's Bluff (3:15)

10. Beaten With Sledges (2:52)

11. Woods of Suicides (3:28)

12. Yellowed Hide (3:28)

13. Moths to Flame (3:13)

14. The Ravines of Falsehood (3:11)

15. The Black Forest (2:12)

16. Haven of Black Tar Pitch (3:19)

17. The Escape Wheel (2:52)

No proper track listing on the web  - had to transcribe.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:16
Al Volo by Stormy Six is a near miss (one track is 17 seconds out)...

Cardiacs' On Land and In Sea has a couple of offending tracks... Mnope, doesn't look like I can find any that haven't already been mentioned...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:08
captain beefheart - safe as milk and clear spot! great albums!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:07
Rovescio Della Medaglia's Contaminazione
  1. Absent for this consumend World (1:17)
  2. Ora non ricordo piu (3:41)
  3. Il suono del silenzio (3:32)
  4. Mi sono svegliato e..ho chiuso gli occhi (3:56)
  5. Lei sei tu: Lei (2:04)
  6. La mia musica (4:10)
  7. Johann (1:23)
  8. Scotland Machine (3:06)
  9. Cella 503 (3:17)
  10. Contaminazione 1760 (1:04)
  11. Alzo un muro elettrico (2:42)
  12. Sweet Suite (3:12)
  13. La grande fuga (2:59)
Art Bear's Winter Songs

  1. The Bath of Stars (1:45)
  2. First Things First (2:41)
  3. Gold (1:40)
  4. The Summer Wheel (2:47)
  5. The Slave (3:38)
  6. The Hermit (2:59)
  7. Rats and Monkeys (3:14)
  8. The Skeleton (3:11)
  9. The Winter Wheel (3:06)
  10. Man and Boy (3:22)
  11. Winter/War/Force/Three Figures (5:51)
  12. Three Wheels (3:38)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:04
pics at an ex is pretty close. only  track going over time by 1:26.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:00

Remastered on Rhino Records - May 21, 1996.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 18:00

Not a perfect prog album, but something more than pop:

Blackfield - Blackfield
1. Open Mind (3:50)
2. Blackfield (4:07)
3. Glow (4:00)
4. Scars (3:57)
5. Lullaby (3:29)
6. Pain (3:47)
7. Summer (4:12)
8. Cloudy Now (3:34)
9. The Hole In Me (2:47)
10. Hello (3:09)

Total Time: 36:52

Only two out of ten slightly longer than 4:00!!!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2005 at 17:54
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I don't know.. I've got a cd of Tarkus right here in front of me.. and its not released as one track... what chu looking at??


The 2001 Sanctury Records remaster with "extensive liner notes".

What chu looking at?
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