King Crimson album remixes to be continued |
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The Neck Romancer
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Topic: King Crimson album remixes to be continued Posted: November 10 2010 at 15:33 |
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Definitely going to get LTIA, Red and Islands. If they're as good as the revamped ITCOCK...
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 14:10 | |
I love this thread. I have more respect for Walter AND Vibey oddly enough. But I see both sides. I have often said slight imperfections give art a human warmth. I had all the old vinyls, and I am fine with them. I bet the remasters in 5.1 do sound better, but that won't make me like them more. Bonus tracks are always nice feature, and profits are what keep the music industry alive, so I understand the incentive to make an update that much more desirable. It's your money, after all, spend it however you like.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 11:55 | |
Looking forward to more trolling from Vibey here
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Pekka
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 11:53 | |
I really liked what he did with Islands, that's the only one so far that I've listened to with some care.
Too bad there wasn't a new stereo mix of Red on the reissue.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 11:41 | |
Once LTiA is done I'm going to order that one and Islands - the two I'm most interested in from the series. Maybe I'll get Lizard and Discipline once Discipline's re-done.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 10 2010 at 11:35 | |
Really hard work is being done for remixing Starless And Bible Black:
More "details" here: http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?entry=18459 Also, Steven Wilson said that the work on LTIA and Beat is done and the release is now up to the label to be decided. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 06:15 | |
The mail order shop is now taking pre-orders for the 40th anniversary editions of In The Wake of Poseidon and Islands.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 03 2010 at 17:27 | |
Are you even paying attention to what's going on? Your alarmist ramblings are ill-informed, to say the least. Don't want bonus cuts, live takes, demos, alternate mixes and alternate takes? Too good for remasters and additional fare? Your loss. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 03 2010 at 13:43 | |
But he does that a lot, they release 70s/80s recordings with great regularity. They have about 900 buyers for such releases, usually. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 03 2010 at 13:38 | |
No, it's not left-over material. It's the master tapes. They didn't have them when they did the 30th anniversary remasters or any other re-release. When they did the 30th ann. remaster they only remastered the overdubbed tapes. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 03 2010 at 13:34 | |
Finding tapes that didn't make the cut. Just like that guy you were talking about who took his painting back. what the freak is that? Same thing here. Why doesn't Fripp just re-record everything.then and call it Wake Of Poseidon 2010, Lizard 2010, Islands 2010 etc. Maybe I could deal with that. I actually liked Orchestral Tubular Bells and Tubular Bells II until Oldfield went off the deep end. Why can't Fripp find anything that wasn't released like the Mahavishnu Orchestra's Lost Trident Sessions ( actually some of it was released as live material ). Even Bobby "Boris" Pickett's Monster Mash didn't have the hell re-mastered out of it in all it's re-releases.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 17:30 | |
Well, keep wishing. In the mean time, at least check out the bonus/previously unreleased material. Some of it is absolute gold. Oh, do lay off the steroids |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 15:29 | |
Finding tapes that weren't available is "f**king" with them? That's interesting.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:36 | |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:29 | |
^^ All the remixes are released on vinyl too. And everyone that has bought the new remixes says that they're worth all the money paid and more!
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:25 | |
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Wah wah. If you don't want it, then don't buy it. It's not like Bobby 'Chuckles' Fripp is sending the goon squad to break your hiss-and-pop laden LPs and forcing you to buy the newfangled 5.1 Steve Whodunnit remix box. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 14:23 | |
And what will these new remasters cost? Is he going to do the same thing as he did with ITCOTCK? Offer the single CD version as well as the super deluxe 5 CD blowout version . Maybe this would have worked back in the days of vinyl but these days with the volume of music that's available on CD ( rapidly becoming a relic of the past ) and online one has to be rather selective when buying music. When that Great Deciever box set came out it was absolutely mindblowing. I couldn't stop listening to it. My girlfriend was ready to kill me. But I just think all this remastering is going into overkill. Unfortunately for me King Crimson has lost some of it's mystique because of this. Next thing you know we'll have a remaster of Absent Friends with enhanced audience. ( it was my buddy that told Belew that joke to which he responded "we're working". Actually I wish he'd do that because I can't remember the bloody joke and you can't hear it on the Cd either !
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 13:13 | |
Of course that lost, is what i think Robert is lamenting too much |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 11:34 | |
^ Of course Zepp didn't need more than one remaster as they never lost their original master tapes like in the case of KC.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 02 2010 at 11:23 | |
Look at Francis Bacon. He destroyed most of his works he did in the 40s. Maybe Fripp should just destroy everything Crimson then he wouldn't have to be worried about it being "unbearable".
I was reading an article with Jimmy Page in the latest Classic Rock and he says he left in tons of mistakes on Zeppelin recordings. But how many Zeppelin remasters have we had???? Duh.
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