Is anyone else getting kind of sick of Pink Floyd? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

micky wrote:

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recognition goes hand in hand with influence and impact.. today's cynicism doesn't fly about hype and mass marketed music and un-deserving groups that can't sing or play instruments yet look good and sell a lot of albums and thus are 'recognized'. Floyd gets the recognition they get because they deserve it..
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There simply is no more influential group on this site... other than the Beatles of course haha.

I was into PF for a long time, but when the next album after DSOTM, was an album that basically had the same format as DSOTM, my tastes kinda went down hill. I still listened and loved the music and THE WALL ended it all for me, because the original cut of the film had 15 to 20 more minutes, almost all of which became THE FINAL CUT, not to mention the story of the family during the war, is re-written in different detail in that later album!

My feeling was that a third LP would be disastrous for the band, and the record company was going insane already with a double album, at a time when it was so obvious they were trying to get less from musicians and make more from them ... when the greed, really was taking over ... it has started when the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin signed for hundreds of millions ... and it was now visible that so many new bands, were dumped and the folks on the outside -- THE FANS -- were not privy to those manipulations of the public taste and sales. The main fact was that one album by LZ would make more money than their next 150 albums released in that month by the same record company.

The thing that folks state that they created so many of this and that ... might be true when you consider the stuff in the bootlegs, all the way to the day BEFORE DSOTM ... when the experiments and trippy stuff died in one swell foop!

But we forget one thing, and we continuously ignore it, and refuse to look at it ... EUROPE had been showing for some time some incredible artistry for music ... but we never EVER considered that they also influenced what PF was doing, specially all the keyboard stuff coming out of Germany ... and the rest of Europe ... and right away, in 1975 or 1976, I knew that PF was done in the "creating" new places and new thoughts, and bringing us "new music" ... the real fact was ... it was all over Europe and PF was no longer the first one or the best!

I'm not sick of PF, of Roger or Dave ... I'm sick of the fans that ruined the PF shows in DSOTM and later, that were there for anything but the music ... it was like many years before ... when you go to SF put flowers in your hair ... and the biggest array of sick and pathetic folks started showing up ... just like mice and rats do in many big cities! And I'm sick of the folks that sometimes post here thinking that the band went through some apocalyptic life and death ... when they are very grateful for their history and their work, despite the label and EMI bullpucky stuff!

But I get really turned off when stuff is said here, that makes it look like there was no history anywhere else in the world and that everyone was copying PF ... you really think that many of those German bands gave a damn? NO THEY DIDN'T ... and its the main reason why some of the "progressive folks" can't stand some of that free form stuff!

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Getting sick of them? Never.

Do I listen to their music as often as I used to? No, but it's still fun and good to listen to them still. Big smile

Don't listen to them that much anymore, but when i sometimes do i still think they did some very nice albums, up to the point where Waters left. Never got into those only Gilmore albums.

Pink Floyd are by far the most over exposed prog band(if you consider them that and some people don't). Every teenage son or daughter, grandmother, aunt and uncle has at least heard of them and many are fans. You really can't say that about any other band that gets labelled prog. Rush would probably be number two but they are still pretty far behind as far as over all popularity goes.

If I never hear post-Waters Floyd or Pre-Gilmour Floyd, I'm fine... Even between 68 and 83, there are albums that I don't have the urge to ever hear again , including the DSTOM until The Wall period, but there is no way that I'm sick or tired of it.

That leaves the Saucerful until Meddle era: and TBH, I really enjoyed those small yearly boxsets of a couple of years ago. There was no way I would've ever bought the full early years box, (just like I won't even consider buying anything from "The Later Year"); but yeah, I did buy the 68-72 boxsets ,but I passed up on the Syd era.

However, outside a two buddies playing in az Floyd tribute band, you won't catch me at a concert, whether from Australia or RPWL.

Obviously it's not Pink Floyd's fault that other bands don't get the mainstream recognition that PF have. We can complain night and day that some of our favourite prog bands don't get the recognition they deserve (Univers Zero should be on prime time TV far more! That'd teach people!! And Bubblemath of course!) but PF's popularity can only help, if anything.

The influence that my first PF listening experiences had on my musical taste and appreciation in general can't be overstated. It was one of my first loves and may well be one of my last; I don't think there was and will be a single day of my life in which listening to Echoes wouldn't be a cure and a gate to the best things that life has to offer.

I tend to not list PF among my top 5 (there are so many great things in music!) but probably I should... surely their best material has this quality that everything else becomes insignificant when listening to them, and is beyond any comparison. (They have done quite a bit of stuff I don't care about, but I don't mind - nobody forces me to listen to it.)

Well I go to see The Australian Pink Floyd every year and I never feel 'this is boring' even if it is the same bunch of songs everytime (pretty much)

You shouldn't compare Floyd to other prog bands . That's a mistake imo.

Led Zep

The Doors

Queen

Jimi Hendrix Experience

that is the league they are in.

Edited by richardh - September 19 2019 at 23:58

No matter how much obscure stuff of all genres I’ve gotten into over the years, my enthusiasm for Floyd has never wavered a bit. Still one of my top 5 bands, and that includes their popular later stuff as well as their earlier stuff. Like the Beatles & Moody Blues, they set a standard of quality for me at an early age.

I re-read the first couple of pages of this thread (Henry Plainview! I miss that guy) and the main point was not that Floyd is unworthy of praise, just frustration over the fact that they get tons more mainstream recognition than any other band. I can sort of relate to that, as I might have made a similar rant among friends back in my late teens, but these days fandom is even more segmented and isolated than it was in 2010 (when this thread began). Lots of different genres, subgenres, etc have their own set of heroes who all get recognized to some degree, to the point where the big hot shots like Pink Floyd no longer have a monopoly on public attention. So it’s kind of unnecessary to really worry about who’s overrated and who isn’t. There are plenty of cliques to hang out with, if you so desire. Though I would recommend keeping one’s channels open to alternative points of view.

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Odvin Draoi wrote:

I used to be sick of the overwhelming dominance of PF in our culture, yet I'm not sick of the band and their music itself as I barely listened their albums/songs more than a couple of times. LOL

At least PF fans are into the band and own their albums unlike Grateful Dead fans who are just in it for the party. LOL

In my opinion, Pink Floyd are by far the most well known band associated with progressive rock. number two would probably be Rush but there's still a pretty big gap album sales wise. Anyway, I'm glad that progressive rock has one or two bands that give the casual fans a way to discover more music associated with the genre. At one point Yes and Genesis might be included but they take a back seat these days to PF and Rush imo. I would say younger fans are even more likely to discover prog through metal(not just prog metal)than through most of the older bands.

So anyway, yes I can understand someone being sick of Pink Floyd. However, as a gateway band I'm glad they exist so more people can discover prog. Of course not everyone who likes or listens to PF will discover prog but some will since PF are often labelled prog.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 07 2019 at 08:19

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