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    Posted: April 21 2010 at 08:51
Yep, one of my better. I hope all reviews would be like this one, but sad truth is that a lot of them aren't. Never mind it, thanks.
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2010 at 08:13
Excellent, great job Marty! Clap
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2010 at 03:40
Very good, let's review then :-)
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Points: 11401 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2010 at 00:39
They are here now ;-)
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http://www.progressor.net
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2010 at 10:20

Thanks for describing it to me. I still lack these soft nuances when considering music to certain genre. But you know this album called "progression by failure". Failure won't cost much and learned lesson is valuable. Therefore, thanks :-)

I will change title of this topic.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

There are symphonic elements in composition and sound, but I can understand Ivan when saying they're not enough. This should go to Crossover indeed. I'll pass it on.
 
I agree with Alex, most bands (Except Avant, Rio, Prog Metal amd those extre,meluy complex), havesome Symphonic elements, but only some of them fit in the genre.
 
When we checked them back in 2006, we choosed Art Rock which means Eclectic or Heavy Prog or Crossover, I believe the mainstream elements are strong so Eclectic is not  the best option and I believe it's or Heavy Prog (the lighter side of the sub-genre) or Crossover (Believe it's perfect there)...But it's Olav's call and I respect it.
 
But that they belong in PA is a fact for me.
 
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There are symphonic elements in composition and sound, but I can understand Ivan when saying they're not enough. This should go to Crossover indeed. I'll pass it on.
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OK Iván, it looks like I should check definition of Symphonic again. I heard symphonic melody and considered it Symphonic Prog.

If Crossover is the place where it should be, then I'm all for it. The important thing is to get them here, if it's possible :-)
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Hey guys:
 
1.- If the team foirmed by Micky, Raff, HT and me consider it's not Symph
2.- Logan considers them Crossover
 
No way they are Symphonic.
 
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2010 at 16:36
Originally posted by GentleGiant GentleGiant wrote:

Btw Marty, did you hear your country fellow VOTCHI (not in PA)?.They have three albums (kind of  Jethro Tull, Uriah Heep,Deep Purple, Atomic Rooster)
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Votchi

http://bandzone.cz/votchi
Im not. in fact Ive never heard about them, but I surely will try them. Check this link, I think that in this Flash element should be some samples.

Yes, Prog Rock is strange thing that always makes me curious, wondering and confused.

Lets propose them for Crossover then. But Im still waiting what Ivan will say.
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Btw Marty, did you hear your country fellow VOTCHI (not in PA)?.They have three albums (kind of  Jethro Tull, Uriah Heep,Deep Purple, Atomic Rooster)
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Votchi
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I'm listening now and I would have thought it should be considered for Crossover.
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Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

I did, they (Iván, whose opinion I value) said it's rather Heavy, or Crossover. 

The problem is that it's Art Rock (at least from a big part) and as such, it has hard time to "get somewhere" here, because Art Rock category is no longer used.

Maybe this is why I still hear Symphonic influences in this music, Art Rock & Symphonic styles are connected.


which means that they are "progressive rock" Wink
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2010 at 05:27

I did, they (Iván, whose opinion I value) said it's rather Heavy, or Crossover. 

The problem is that it's Art Rock (at least from a big part) and as such, it has hard time to "get somewhere" here, because Art Rock category is no longer used.

Maybe this is why I still hear Symphonic influences in this music, Art Rock & Symphonic styles are connected.
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Marty, have you contacted the Symph guys?
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2010 at 15:58
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 29 2009 at 02:56

I agree on many things you said, but mostly, one thing that hit my mind instantly (after you said it) is that really, it's the sound.

I forgot this myspace link (as I haven't checked it yet), there are probably samples too.

So, typical average symphonic prog of these days ? :-)
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Points: 3578 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2009 at 17:27
I didn't own their album, just listened many samples. And I have listened many other Finnish prog bands,mostly modern ones, they have few trends now, so more or less I can imagine, where Khatsaturjan depend on. Another thing - it isn't a music I know in deep, just my semi-pro opinionWink
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